World Wrestling Entertainment thread

[mudyez]

LOL...the whole RtWM and WM felt like a small PPV (think No Mercy).

Punk vs. Taker was well done from the buildup and the concluding match but other than that the "WWE-Playoffs" have been a shame.
Nothing against him, but how the f*** can Fandango get his first match at WM, when others like Rhodes or Cesaro are not even showing up?
How can you remake a "once in a livetime"-match especially when it only worked because of that tag and not because of the wrestlering?
HHH vs. Lesnar was somewhat ok, but why have such a stipulation when doesnt break loose then? And what is Lesnar doing in WWE anyway?
I like The Shield and it may be the right way to just keep them this 3-men-group, but I somehow feel like WWE will skrew this up anyway...just like with...
Ryback!!! LOL!

best tings: Taker/Punk, Team No keeps the le and doesn't selfimplode
worst things: you could list nearly everything but let's settle with: no Turn (Orton/Cena?), no Divas (no Joke, whats the point of even having them?), no Cash In (resulting in the end of Zigglers career, if nothing big happens at tonights Raw)

[Girasuck]

I didn't think it was THAT bad. Taker/Punk was by far the best match of the night, but I also enjoyed Lesnar/HHH more than I thought I would, even though the damn crowd was dead silent for most of the match. Rock/Cena was a joke, but I didn't buy the PPV for that match anyway so I don't feel ripped off. A little disappointed that Orton didn't turn heel, and the Jericho/Fandamnit match was horrible. I thought the idea behind the Jericho/Fandamnit match was to put over Fandamnit but instead we got 10 minutes of Jericho dominating and Fandamnit winning with a cradle package, with pretty much no offense at all?

Overall I'd give WM29 a 7/10.

[TDMVPDPOY]

LOL...the whole RtWM and WM felt like a small PPV (think No Mercy).

Punk vs. Taker was well done from the buildup and the concluding match but other than that the "WWE-Playoffs" have been a shame.
Nothing against him, but how the f*** can Fandango get his first match at WM, when others like Rhodes or Cesaro are not even showing up?
How can you remake a "once in a livetime"-match especially when it only worked because of that tag and not because of the wrestlering?
HHH vs. Lesnar was somewhat ok, but why have such a stipulation when doesnt break loose then? And what is Lesnar doing in WWE anyway?
I like The Shield and it may be the right way to just keep them this 3-men-group, but I somehow feel like WWE will skrew this up anyway...just like with...
Ryback!!! LOL!

best tings: Taker/Punk, Team No keeps the le and doesn't selfimplode
worst things: you could list nearly everything but let's settle with: no Turn (Orton/Cena?), no Divas (no Joke, whats the point of even having them?), no Cash In (resulting in the end of Zigglers career, if nothing big happens at tonights Raw)

they are , i prefer to have 3 big boss man who was a good law enforcer fighter

[ShinerBlack]

I didn't think it was THAT bad. Taker/Punk was by far the best match of the night, but I also enjoyed Lesnar/HHH more than I thought I would, even though the damn crowd was dead silent for most of the match. Rock/Cena was a joke, but I didn't buy the PPV for that match anyway so I don't feel ripped off. A little disappointed that Orton didn't turn heel, and the Jericho/Fandamnit match was horrible. I thought the idea behind the Jericho/Fandamnit match was to put over Fandamnit but instead we got 10 minutes of Jericho dominating and Fandamnit winning with a cradle package, with pretty much no offense at all?

Overall I'd give WM29 a 7/10.

Jericho got the shaft on this one. Yet another rushed and poorly put together match for Mania.

[Spursfan092120]

Seriously..don't know why everyone's ing..it wasn't a bad show. Rock/Cena was bad, but that was because of Rock. After 15 minutes, he was sweating like he was in an iron man match. He was not in good shape. He had a good physique, but he was not conditioned. I paid the money for it, and feel it was worth every penny. Everyone knew Cena was going to win. Rock wasn't going to hang around. He'll fight Cena at the next PPV, lose, and move on...then he'll probably fight Brock Lesnar at next year's WM. Rock just isn't conditioned like the rest of the guys in the locker room anymore.

[Spursfan092120]

I didn't think it was THAT bad. Taker/Punk was by far the best match of the night, but I also enjoyed Lesnar/HHH more than I thought I would, even though the damn crowd was dead silent for most of the match. Rock/Cena was a joke, but I didn't buy the PPV for that match anyway so I don't feel ripped off. A little disappointed that Orton didn't turn heel, and the Jericho/Fandamnit match was horrible. I thought the idea behind the Jericho/Fandamnit match was to put over Fandamnit but instead we got 10 minutes of Jericho dominating and Fandamnit winning with a cradle package, with pretty much no offense at all?

Overall I'd give WM29 a 7/10.

Couldn't agree more. Great analyzation. I didn't think Rock/Cena was that bad considering Cena had to carry it. But yeah..I didn't understand the point of Jericho/Fandumbass either...With Jericho going on tour, I thought they'd take advantage and let him beat Jericho straight out...nope. Lesnar/HHH was a great match, and Taker/Punk was great also.

[KoolAid Mans Brother]

The first 90 minutes of the free cable television show Monday Night Raw tonight has been better then the entire 4 hours of $70 WrestleMania. This has been the best crowd in a very long time (the "same old " chant was awesome), the wrestling matches have been great, and we finally have a surprise that the fans have been dying for (Ziggler cashing in)

Last night's WrestleMania will easily go down as the worst ever. It's really a culmination of how bad the product has become. The writers are horrible, most of the matches last night were slow and predictable, and there were no "wrestlemania moments" the entire night. WrestleMania used to be filled with surprises, huge spots, month long fueds culminating, and unpredictable outcomes. We got none of that last night. No Orton Heel turn, no Ziggler cashing in, no controversy in the Cena/Rock match, nothing. It was stale, boring, and the crowd was dead because of it. The CM Punk/Undertaker match was the only one that had an old school feel to it, and props to Taker to still be able to perform at a high level at nearly 50 years old (even if it's only once a year). They still refuse to evolve or change Cena's stale character, and he just becomes more and more hated because of it. It's not his fault, it's the creative team's fault. Do SOMETHING different with the man, ANYTHING. It doesn't have to be a heel turn, but Christ, the ing "never give up" bull is so outplayed. He is a limited wrestler but obviously a solid entertainer and hard worker, but give the ing man a new role. And did they seriously think that the crowd was going to like Cena and Rock shaking hands and saluting each other after the match? Lol, that was so ing gay and very obvious that the crowd would boo the out of it. They are so out of touch with the audience that it's laughable.

[irishock]

Holy this crowd

WM, Just go to the RAW after WM

[Trainwreck2100]

after wrestlemania raws are always beast, last year was the birth of the yes chants

[KaiRMD1]

Best raw I've seen in a long time. I think Fandango is over since I've never heard a crowd sing along to a theme song since Sandman's ECW entrance

[Trainwreck2100]

that "same old " chant

[TDMVPDPOY]

lol after every PPV, raw the following night has many upsets or changes from the previous day...

[TDMVPDPOY]

if fadango wants to be a , why dont they have him fight golddust

ziggler deserves a push, he does so many things from selling moves and pushing others over b4 him just to put on a good show...lol mr.perfect wannabe

[TheCultOfPersonality]

Cena needs to turn heel

You happy now?

[Avante]

My take....

What was with all the commercials/non rasslin' stuff, sucked!

Thank God for no midgets, ladies, bull matches. No pillow fights.

Best match.....Undertaker vs Cena.

Biggest surprise...Henry taking down Ryback, why the big Ryback push?

I'm guessing Jericho is back on the road so give Fanwhatever a boost.

Orton is getting totaly disrespected.

They need to do something else with Raines, he could be somebody, why waste him playing The Shield bit?

Was it just me, or was the crowd dead.

When do they figure out that Cena needs to be a heel? Feel sorry for the guy.

Good bye Rock and Lesnar,

How Bob Baklund ever made iT big in pro rasslin' remains a mystery to me.

Age is a terrible thing, poor Bruno. Hard to believe it took this long to get into the HOF, guy is one of the top 2-3 rasslers ever.

[KoolAid Mans Brother]

My take....

What was with all the commercials/non rasslin' stuff, sucked!

Thank God for no midgets, ladies, bull matches. No pillow fights.

Best match.....Undertaker vs Cena.

Biggest surprise...Henry taking down Ryback, why the big Ryback push?

I'm guessing Jericho is back on the road so give Fanwhatever a boost.

Orton is getting totaly disrespected.

They need to do something else with Raines, he could be somebody, why waste him playing The Shield bit?

Was it just me, or was the crowd dead.

When do they figure out that Cena needs to be a heel? Feel sorry for the guy.

Good bye Rock and Lesnar,

How Bob Baklund ever made iT big in pro rasslin' remains a mystery to me.

Age is a terrible thing, poor Bruno. Hard to believe it took this long to get into the HOF, guy is one of the top 2-3 rasslers ever.

I enjoy the entrances and the pyro, but the fued recap videos take up way too much time

I would have rathered a Diva's match over that horrible Diddy song

Undertaker did not wrestle Cena

Agree, it made no sense for Ryback to lose to Henry and then put him right in the main event picure against Cena the next night on Raw. They did at least make Ryback look strong by killing Henry after the match was over

Jericho truly cares about the business and always helps young talent get over.

Orton's failed drug tests are the reason he didn't get any push in the past year

Eventually, the Sheild will disband and they will get singles pushes. You could compare it to the Nexus. They disbanded and the talented ones succeeded in singles compe ion (Wade Barrett, Ryback)

The crowd was definitely dead, even though it is harder to capture the sound in an outdoor stadium. Monday Night Raw the next night was 10 times louder than mania and 100 times better.

Cena needs a new direction, whether it be heel or a new persona.

Lesnar is no doubt in the business simply for the money. He is still under contract with WWE but it only covers a certain amount of appearances per year. Rock is a multi-millionaire and came back for the love of the business and at the end of the 2 year feud, he helped put over Cena (even though the fans still hate his character).

Bob Backlund was a good mat wrestler but he was never great on the mic and not very entertaining and I have no idea how he was more than a mid-carder

Bruno is 77 years old. I'm surprised he is still living after all of the steroids (no testing back then) and abuse that his body went through for all of those years.

[Trainwreck2100]

I enjoy the entrances and the pyro, but the fued recap videos take up way too much time

I would have rathered a Diva's match over that horrible Diddy song

Undertaker did not wrestle Cena

Agree, it made no sense for Ryback to lose to Henry and then put him right in the main event picure against Cena the next night on Raw. They did at least make Ryback look strong by killing Henry after the match was over

Jericho truly cares about the business and always helps young talent get over.

Orton's failed drug tests are the reason he didn't get any push in the past year

Eventually, the Sheild will disband and they will get singles pushes. You could compare it to the Nexus. They disbanded and the talented ones succeeded in singles compe ion (Wade Barrett, Ryback)

The crowd was definitely dead, even though it is harder to capture the sound in an outdoor stadium. Monday Night Raw the next night was 10 times louder than mania and 100 times better.

Cena needs a new direction, whether it be heel or a new persona.

Lesnar is no doubt in the business simply for the money. He is still under contract with WWE but it only covers a certain amount of appearances per year. Rock is a multi-millionaire and came back for the love of the business and at the end of the 2 year feud, he helped put over Cena (even though the fans still hate his character).

Bob Backlund was a good mat wrestler but he was never great on the mic and not very entertaining and I have no idea how he was more than a mid-carder

Bruno is 77 years old. I'm surprised he is still living after all of the steroids (no testing back then) and abuse that his body went through for all of those years.

They pushed Ryback into the le picture cause the rock got injured, which is exactly why he got a le shot against Punk(cena was injured)Bruno hasn't been put in till now because everybody knows why.

[KoolAid Mans Brother]

They pushed Ryback into the le picture cause the rock got injured, which is exactly why he got a le shot against Punk(cena was injured)Bruno hasn't been put in till now because everybody knows why.

True, but I think that I read somewhere that Ryback is now 0-6 in ppv's. So even if Rock didn't get injured last night and Ryback now has to subs ute for a bit, what good did it do to have him lose to Mark Henry at mania? I didn't understand that decision.

[Spursfan092120]

My take....

What was with all the commercials/non rasslin' stuff, sucked!

Thank God for no midgets, ladies, bull matches. No pillow fights.

Best match.....Undertaker vs Cena.

Biggest surprise...Henry taking down Ryback, why the big Ryback push?

I'm guessing Jericho is back on the road so give Fanwhatever a boost.

Orton is getting totaly disrespected.

They need to do something else with Raines, he could be somebody, why waste him playing The Shield bit?

Was it just me, or was the crowd dead.

When do they figure out that Cena needs to be a heel? Feel sorry for the guy.

Good bye Rock and Lesnar,

How Bob Baklund ever made iT big in pro rasslin' remains a mystery to me.

Age is a terrible thing, poor Bruno. Hard to believe it took this long to get into the HOF, guy is one of the top 2-3 rasslers ever.

Good God....here's my response..

Commercials are based on who pays them...duh.

Agreed

Undertaker vs. Cena best match? The are you smoking?

Ryback is going heel..they need another big heel. Maybe they'll resign Batista. He and Ryback would make a great match.

Yes..Jericho is going on tour...Fandumbo will get a push, even though he looked like a lost puppy at WrestleMania

Agreed

REIGNS could be really good...I agree...I think Ambrose could be better, however, because he has mic skills. Reigns just has size...Seth Rollins will only go as far as Justin Gabriel...maybe Evan Bourne, if he's lucky.

Crowd wasn't dead..just wasn't as insane and ignorant as the crowd in NY for Raw.

Explain how you make Cena a heel. He makes WAY too much money for the WWE as a face. A heel turn wouldn't hurt television, but it would DESTROY business. All the kids who want Cena gear at the events wouldn't want Cena gear anymore. Unfortunately, they can't go the way of The Rock (Face, then heel until the crowd LOVES your heel persona, then back to face as your heel persona) because John is making them too much money with concessions, and they have to stay PG.

LOL at this statement, as I see them fighting at next year's WM.

Backlund is a badass, and a legend... you...lol

Agreed

[TheCultOfPersonality]

I don't see Ryback's attack on Cena as being heelish, but that's just me.

As for the RAW crowd in NJ, the best as well as the most entertaining crowd they've had in years. I bet that NJ crowd had the WWE wishing they could edit the crowd reactions for RAW like they do for Smackdown (if they already didn't wish that already).

[Venti Quattro]

You happy now?

HAHAHAHA that was so gay

[Trainwreck2100]

True, but I think that I read somewhere that Ryback is now 0-6 in ppv's. So even if Rock didn't get injured last night and Ryback now has to subs ute for a bit, what good did it do to have him lose to Mark Henry at mania? I didn't understand that decision.

honestly he should be, he's got for moves, and his finisher is crap

[Avante]

Good God....here's my response..

Commercials are based on who pays them...duh.

Agreed

Undertaker vs. Cena best match? The are you smoking?

Ryback is going heel..they need another big heel. Maybe they'll resign Batista. He and Ryback would make a great match.

Yes..Jericho is going on tour...Fandumbo will get a push, even though he looked like a lost puppy at WrestleMania

Agreed

REIGNS could be really good...I agree...I think Ambrose could be better, however, because he has mic skills. Reigns just has size...Seth Rollins will only go as far as Justin Gabriel...maybe Evan Bourne, if he's lucky.

Crowd wasn't dead..just wasn't as insane and ignorant as the crowd in NY for Raw.

Explain how you make Cena a heel. He makes WAY too much money for the WWE as a face. A heel turn wouldn't hurt television, but it would DESTROY business. All the kids who want Cena gear at the events wouldn't want Cena gear anymore. Unfortunately, they can't go the way of The Rock (Face, then heel until the crowd LOVES your heel persona, then back to face as your heel persona) because John is making them too much money with concessions, and they have to stay PG.

LOL at this statement, as I see them fighting at next year's WM.

Backlund is a badass, and a legend... you...lol

Agreed

We all know how commercials work, so where have they been in other Wrestlemania's?

Obviously I meant CM Punk. But..DUH!..fits knowing ya can't make that mistake on a messageboard with everyone dying to pounce.

Reigns will be a major player by this time next year, yep, a prediction.

Ryback needs a manager, it seems he has...0...skills on the mic.

Cena started off as heel in the OVW, he'd make a great heel. And don't be surprised if we don't see that.

Bob Baklund was not a badass, he was even called...Howdy Doody, OX Baker, Adullah the Butcher, Brusier Brody.....badasses.

Big E Langston is another guy who needs another gig, he looks the part, obviously we don't know about his all important mic skills.

[Spursfan092120]

We all know how commercials work, so where have they been in other Wrestlemania's?

Obviously I meant CM Punk. But..DUH!..fits knowing ya can't make that mistake on a messageboard with everyone dying to pounce.

Reigns will be a major player by this time next year, yep, a prediction.

Ryback needs a manager, it seems he has...0...skills on the mic.

Cena started off as heel in the OVW, he'd make a great heel. And don't be surprised if we don't see that.

Bob Baklund was not a badass, he was even called...Howdy Doody, OX Baker, Adullah the Butcher, Brusier Brody.....badasses.

Big E Langston is another guy who needs another gig, he looks the part, obviously we don't know about his all important mic skills.

Wasn't sure you meant Punk...wanted to be sure.

Reigns is powerful...but needs mic skills.

Ryback will fade, just like any monster with no mic skills. May take a while, but he'll fade.

I know Cena's been a heel before...He was a heel in WWE...when he first was the Doctor of Thuganomics, he was a heel. I'm talking about now, though..not the past...they make too much money off his face character. It could happen...but I doubt it.

Backlund is a legend. period...

I don't think E has mic skills..that's why he's parked behind Ziggler right now. If he gets some, he'll be really good.

[crc21209]

Soooo WWE trying to milk the HHH-Lesnar feud now or what? Now Lesnar is challenging HHH to a Steel Cage match at Extreme Rules. I think I've seen enough of Lesnar already. You got your ass kicked Move on....