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    Yeah, I hope Neal is back too. He's not a point guard, but he's a big game shooter.
    Yeah I understand we have a log jam at guard and Neal is an atrocious defender, but if we lose him we lose a guy who can hit big shots. I know they practically have no trade value but I would rather the Spurs trade away Joseph and Anderson.

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    If the Spurs need to avoid the tax mid season they can also unload Jax at some point. That would suck, but its obviously an option with a good sized expiring deal.

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    FWIW, SportsCenter just reported it as 3 years, 36 million. But it IS ESPN...
    Meh, I guess I'll change the le of the thread to reflect that. Since ESPN also has Green's correct salary, they may have gotten the scoop on Duncan's number.

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    Yeah I understand we have a log jam at guard and Neal is an atrocious defender, but if we lose him we lose a guy who can hit big shots. I know they practically have no trade value but I would rather the Spurs trade away Joseph and Anderson.
    Trade chips are Neal/Blair/Bonner/Joseph in that order. Spurs didn't pick up Anderson's option so I believe he is a UFA. The now logjam at the guard position does mean someone will move traded or moved.

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    If the Spurs need to avoid the tax mid season they can also unload Jax at some point. That would suck, but its obviously an option with a good sized expiring deal.
    Unless StackJack blows out his knee or something, you'll see an A+ meltdown from me that'll put my reactions to signing Bonner and in 2010 to shame should they salary-dump him.

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    Trade chips are Neal/Blair/Bonner/Joseph in that order. Spurs didn't pick up Anderson's option so I believe he is a UFA. The now logjam at the guard position does mean someone will move traded or moved.
    I think they just keep Joseph in Austin and won't pick up the QO next summer. Nothing about Jospeh says NBA player.

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    I would think they would try to salary dump Bonner on a team with cap space before amnestying him. His contract is pretty easy to absorb and could become a nice trade chip for some team with it being unguaranteed next season.
    Agree completely.

    As much as a proponent Holt was of reins uting the amnesty clause as part of the CBA and as much as I wish the Spurs would do so, I simply don't see them using this out on Bonner.

    Using the amnesty clause just doesn't appear to be an economic vehicle that they would take. Remember, they were almost too willing to use it on RJ last year until they somehow finally found a sucker to take him off their hands. I have to imagine that, as seemingly improbable as the idea of moving RJ's contract was, they were able to do so with a little bit of patience and good fortune. After that fiasco, I'm sure to them the idea of finding a taker for Bonner should be easier. That's assuming they're as fed up as most of us are and want to move him at all.

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    Unless StackJack blows out his knee or something, you'll see an A+ meltdown from me that'll put my reactions to signing Bonner and in 2010 to shame should they salary-dump him.
    I don't necessarily think that it needs to be a salary dump at all. The fact is that Jax has the best expiring contract for a trade - especially if bundled with some of the smaller contracts. The Spurs could shed payroll and get better with his expiring.

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    Unless StackJack blows out his knee or something, you'll see an A+ meltdown from me that'll put my reactions to signing Bonner and in 2010 to shame should they salary-dump him.
    Same here. Salary dumping Jack would be akin to beating the kids because the dog pooped in the house.

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    Although the Big 3 will be a year older, we also have to remember guys like Danny, Tiago, and Kawhi will come in with more experience and a full training camp. I'm not saying they'll be as good as they were this past season but we should look at the bright side for once.

    Right now I'm just happy we still got Timmy for the next couple of years.

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    I don't necessarily think that it needs to be a salary dump at all. The fact is that Jax has the best expiring contract for a trade - especially if bundled with some of the smaller contracts. The Spurs could shed payroll and get better with his expiring.
    Obviously I'd be down if they could pull a Gasol trade, but steals like that are few and far between.

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    Regarding Patty Mills, it looks like the maximum the Spurs could pay him is just a little bit more than $1 million. That's a damn good deal for someone who illustrated intriguing potential at the end of last season.

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    Where's Jeff Mac when he's needed?
    He isn't needed, nor is he wanted.

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    How so? De Colo is unproven & Mills is just a smaller Neal. Still looks terrible defensively!
    This is just wrong. Both got outmuscled but while Neal was still at the three point line spinning off a pick with his man driving through the paint, Mills is able to keep in front of his man. His lateral quickness is up there with Tony's. He hasn't proven that he can shoot as consistently well as Neal but he is up there too.

    Neal was just more experienced at this point running an offense especially this one.

    It stands to reason that Leonard, Splitter, Mills, and Green will be better with another year in the NBA. Duncan, Ginobilli, and Jackson will probably take another step back due to age.

    Where they end up is anyone's guess.

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    Regarding Patty Mills, it looks like the maximum the Spurs could pay him is just a little bit more than $1 million. That's a damn good deal for someone who illustrated intriguing potential at the end of last season.
    Damn good indeed for a guy who dropped 34 and 12, including some big shots, and one pair of three googles...


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    Until the wheels fall off.


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    Let the Nando de Colo nickname contest begin
    Nando de culo?

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    Or a part of it like $3M/2 years.
    French newspaper "L'équipe" announces 2.8 M$ for two years and says that Barcelone offered more but De Colo chose to rejoin TP and Boris Diaw to the spurs to form a a french "big three". OK they got a little bit carried away about this

    "ll va signer dans les prochaines heures un contrat de 2,8 millions de dollars. Sollicité par le FC Barcelone qui lui proposait des conditions supérieures aux Spurs, l'arrière des Bleus a choisi de rejoindre Tony Parker et Boris Diaw avec qui il va former un "Big three" français dans le sud du Texas. Du jamais vu dans une franchise NBA."

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    i'm glad we got all this stuff done, and got it all done by today, 1 day before free agents can sign. i really hope these contracts were actually frontloaded for this year, as next year is when we are going to try to make a splash in free agency with Manu (14 mil), Jax (10 mil), Splitter (3.9 mil), and Blair and Neal (combined 2 mil) come off the books. For the mathematically challenged that comes out to be roughly 30 million. If we frontloaded the contracts we just signed, it would give us some more room as well.

    Otherwise, with the contracts we signed today, our salary this year comes out to roughly 67.4 million, with the cap being about 60 million and the luxury tax threshold at about 70 million. With that estimated 30 million comin off the books next offseason, we will be sitting at a cap number of 37.4 million, giving us plenty of room to resign Manu/Jax to lesser contracts, probably somewhere near MLE numbers and still have well over 10-12 million to sign a difference maker

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    That's probably a year too much for Duncan but for all he has done for us it is well deserved. Im very glad that we can see mr fundamental for another 3 years! Hes just a goat!

    As for patty mills, I'm really high on this signing, he's a very good shooter and has a lot better ball handling then Gary Neal. Training camp will really help him along with Diaw leonard green.

    As for colo, I don't know much about him, but spurs have proven to be good scouters, so if they see something in him, he must be good

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    Spurs FO just doing the do.

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    The Spurs are too busy signing guards ( De Cola) they don't need rather than actualy filling holes (PF) to improve the team. It makes absolutely no sense.

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    The Spurs are too busy signing guards ( De Cola) they don't need rather than actualy filling holes (PF) to improve the team. It makes absolutely no sense.
    What kind of forward/center could they have signed with that money?

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    Think where going to see alot more small ball next season..Our other big well be Kawhi and/or SJax.

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    What kind of forward/center could they have signed with that money?
    That money combined with a amnesty or trade could free up enough cash to lure someone to sign. What are they going to do with De cola?

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