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    Those pro-Apollo shills over at Sciforums are looking like real horses' a---s and I suspect moderator action so I'm posting the last post I made here just in case.
    Anyone who thinks the flag moves in water like that is lying or incredibly dumb. I cannot accurately determine which.
    You just destroyed you credibility big time (again).




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    Check out the second to the last link in this post.
    http://www.sciforums.com/threads/we-...5#post-3391329


    All of you pro-Apollo posters maintain that the Chinese spacewalk was real. This totally destroys your credibility. None of you has any credibility.

    As of now it's post #1133 on page #57 of this thread.
    http://www.sciforums.com/threads/we-...e-moon.145207/

    It may get edited or deleted. Let's see what the moderator does.

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    The moderators just closed this thread.
    http://www.sciforums.com/threads/we-...e-moon.145207/

    A bunch of sophists can have some measure of success at making the viewers think the moon missions were real if they're talking to each other in front of people who haven't seen the proof that it was faked. If there are truthers there posting the proof and asking real questions, they have to say some pretty lame things to maintain their positions and it becomes very clear that they are a bunch of sophists who don't even believe their own arguments. At a disinfo site that usually doesn't go on forever; the moderator finally closes the thread to limit the damage. The thread will finally get buried.

    http://www.sciforums.com/ is a disinfo site.

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    Cosmoron the lying sack of .
    LMAO at the wanker getting his sorry arse kicked yet again. He has no answers to the evidence and bleats like a head when they shut down his spam diversions.

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    Cosmoron the lying sack of .
    LMAO at the wanker getting his sorry arse kicked yet again. He has no answers to the evidence and bleats like a head when they shut down his spam diversions.

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    Cosmoron the lying sack of .
    LMAO at the wanker getting his sorry arse kicked yet again. He has no answers to the evidence and bleats like a head when they shut down his spam diversions.

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    If there's no control on a discussion forum and both sides are allowed to post freely, the truth eventually prevails. Censorship is only necessary when a lie is being defended.
    http://www.sciforums.com/threads/we-...e-moon.145207/

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    These vids had to be made by CosmoFred. No one can be so pathetic they track down an entire internet's worth of one person's spam except for the lame that claims to not be the person spamming despite a disgustingly bizarre addiction to said spammer, or so they claim...which isn't fooling anyone btw, fwiw.

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    I like to talk about the Apollo hoax on forums. I start threads and debate until it plays out. Then I start another one. I don't see why that could be called "Spam". Spam is unwanted emails.

    There's an information war going on. If you try to put the Apollo hoax proof in the comment section of almost any pro-Apollo article or video, it will be censored one way or another. The only way to get the info out is by posting in a lot of places. It's not as easy as it used to be. Now about ninety eight percent of forums don't even allow this issue to be discussed unless it's a bunch of Apollo-believers glorifying Apollo.

    On the ones that allow it, there are disinfo agents trying to discredit the hoax proof and the moderators are almost always on their side. They do things to tie the hoax-believer's hands so that he can't make his case or just delete his posts and entire threads.

    I'm Scott on this forum.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index....on-landing.72/

    Whenever I start winning debates too decisively there, the moderators start deleting my posts. I can remember three whole threads I started that were deleted; I talked about them here on this thread.
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    I like to talk about the Apollo hoax on forums. I start threads and debate until it plays out. Then I start another one. I don't see why that could be called "Spam". Spam is unwanted emails.

    There's an information war going on. If you try to put the Apollo hoax proof in the comment section of almost any pro-Apollo article or video, it will be censored one way or another. The only way to get the info out is by posting in a lot of places. It's not as easy as it used to be. Now about ninety eight percent of forums don't even allow this issue to be discussed unless it's a bunch of Apollo-believers glorifying Apollo.

    On the ones that allow it, there are disinfo agents trying to discredit the hoax proof and the moderators are almost always on their side. They do things to tie the hoax-believers hands so that he can't make his case or just delete his posts and entire threads.

    I'm Scott on this forum.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index....on-landing.72/

    Whenever I start winning debates too decisively there, the moderators start deleting my posts. I can remember three whole threads I started that were deleted; I talked about them here on this thread.

    You could beat up Fat Freddy in a fight, I just know you could.

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    Here's a post I just made over at "Political forum" that might get deleted. As of now it's post #14 on this thread.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index....ialism.371897/

    Doesn't mean there's not proof mankind has been to the moon.




    First of all most of what's considered to be proof in that video is based on the idea that the media tell us the truth. Check out this info.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index....ost-1066548138


    There's nothing in that video that cons utes real proof and it doesn't make the anomalies that prove the hoax go away.




    The rocks are not proof.


    http://www.geschichteinchronologie.c...arth-ENGL.html
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    "Moonstones" have no possibility to be compared on moon itself, because there is no possibility of a neutral control on the "moon". So, it's permitted for anybody to claim this or that stone would come from the "moon". Also when certain "moon probes" are said having landed on the moon also this is not controllable. And it's not possible to control if these "moon probes" have brought stones or dust from the "moon" to the Earth or not either. At the end the super powers "USA" and "SU" claim together to the public that "moonstones" would be "very similar" to "Earth stones". This "similarity" brings up some new questions
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    What Happened On the Moon? Part 2 - Environmental Dangers & The Trouble with Rockets
    [MEDIA=youtube]MalYSn_qIU4[/MEDIA]
    (1:05:40 time mark)




    The reflectors aren't proof. See the above video at the 1:17:00 time mark.




    Pictures are fakable so they aren't proof.


    The proof that the LRO photos are photoshopped
    [MEDIA=youtube]mRE7grId3sI[/MEDIA]




    The fact that there were thousands of people involved is not proof of anything.


    http://theconspiracyzone.podcastpeople.com/posts/27709
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    Q: Why do prominent astronomers like Sir Bernard Lovell and Patrick Moore support the Moon landings if they were faked?


    A: Scientists and astronomers around the globe know full well that the Moon missions were faked, but rely on NASA to gain access to the vital data beamed back to Earth from the Hubble space telescope. They cannot slag off NASA otherwise NASA would deprive them of this essential information, which they so much require.
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    Q: What about the vast number of people involved in Apollo, wouldnít someone have spoken out.


    A: Panís claim there were half a million people involved in the Apollo program, but that includes all the humble engineers working on machine parts in many companies around the globe. So if someone is making a part in some engineering factory in Seattle, and his boss tells him itís for the Apollo spacecraft, is that engineer proof the landings took place? No of course it is not proof, and even if that engineer knew they never made it to the Moon, he would still brag to his friends that he made a part that went to the Moon just to make him feel proud in some way or other. Parts for the Apollo program were made at many different factories around the globe. For example the laser reflector supposedly left on the Moon was manufactured in France. NASA collected the unit from the French company, and that was the last they saw of it. Itís probably stashed away in some archive at Langley, but one things for certain itís not on the Moon. Are those French engineers proof they landed on the Moon? No of course not, as very few, (probably less than 200 people), were actually involved in bringing the whole lot together, so as to minimize what was actually taking place. No need for any of them to speak out because (A) They are 100% patriotic to the USA, and would say nothing that would go against America, even if it were true. (B) They do not need millions of dollars to safeguard their future, as they have already received substantial amounts from NASA just to ďkeep mumĒ. Read comments from people who worked on the Apollo program in the APOLLO FEEDBACK section.
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    Third parties can be bribed or threatened, or they could just be our friends and will cooperate.


    MoonFaker: Russia, Jodrell Bank & Frequencies. PART 1
    [MEDIA=youtube]wkNjv1uNMiQ[/MEDIA]




    What was really happening in the cold war might have been very different from what they were telling us.


    http://libcom.org/history/articles/c...?quicktabs_1=0
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    On the domestic front, the Cold War helped the Soviet Union entrench its military-bureaucratic ruling class in power, and it gave the US a way to compel its population to subsidise high-tech industry. It isn't easy to sell all that to the domestic populations. The technique used was the old stand-by-fear of a great enemy.
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    http://www.geschichteinchronologie.c...arth-ENGL.html
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    The "SU" legalizes the "American" "moon landings" and gets wheat for it
    All in all the "Soviet Union" legalizes the "moon landings" of the "USA" by the declaration that the "moonstones" are the same. At the same time "SU" suffers bad harvests and is depends on wheat deliveries from the West. The "Soviet" regime has no other choice than to do the favour to the "USA" to recognize the "moonstones" and with it the "moon landings" (Wisnewski, p.212).
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    http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moon.htm
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    The Soviets, with their own competing moon program and an intense economic and political and military rivalry with the USA, could be expected to have cried foul if the USA tried to fake a Moon landing. Theorist Ralph Rene responds that shortly after the alleged Moon landings, the USA silently started shipping hundreds of thousands of tons of grain as humanitarian aid to the allegedly starving USSR. He views this as evidence of a cover-up, the grain being the price of silence. (The Soviet Union in fact had its own Moon program).
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    Here are some more anomalies that are not on the other list.
    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...jY5HQqbjeoyC4Q




    Here's some evidence that the mountains on the moon were backdrops.


    Go down about half way on this page to where it says, "The Hills Are Alive".
    http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicapollo.html


    More on the backdrops here.
    http://www.aulis.com/stereoparallax.htm




    Lunar rover on the moon. Was it a RC model? (Extended Edition)
    [MEDIA=youtube]eK3R2en4p_8[/MEDIA]




    That video is just sophistry written by people who know the moon missions were faked.

    Let's see what the moderator does.


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    The moderator closed the thread. The moderators are pro-Apollo and they fight dirty when they can't convince the viewers that the missions were real. Whenever I start winning the Apollo debate too desicively, they start to edit and delete my posts. Sometimes they delete whole threads.
    Last edited by Cosmored; 06-13-2018 at 11:01 AM.

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    Check out what's said about Wikipedia at the 3:45 time mark of this video.

    Former CBS Reporter Exposes Media Lies, Internet Shills & Astroturfing - MUST SEE!!!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0s__qs0cBek


    It's true. I tried to put this...
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144487

    ...on the bottom of a page about the Apollo program a few years ago and it disappeared pretty quickly.

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    ^the shills are at it again

    comsored is a paid disinformation shill

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    I know for a fact we landed on the Moon. I have a relative who is married to a guy who worked in all that, and he's not some suck ass do what he's told guy at all, he has...yep, really happened. And if anyone would rat it all out he would.

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    Oh it happened because Avante knows someone who knows a guy

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    I know for a fact we landed on the Moon. I have a relative who is married to a guy who worked in all that, and he's not some suck ass do what he's told guy at all, he has...yep, really happened. And if anyone would rat it all out he would.
    The anomalies prove the hoax. Here's are some anomalies that I recently added to the list that you might not have seen yet.
    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...jY5HQqbjeoyC4Q

    If you want to talk about them, come over to the moon thread.
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144487

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    Here's a post I just made over at "Political Forum".

    The evidence is crushing and irrefutable that the deniers such as Scott are wrong.
    There is zero proof that they went and there's a ton of proof that they didn't go. Here's some of the proof that they didn't go.

    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=UUPX7KGp1cjY5HQqbjeoyC4Q
    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=MoonFaker
    http://www.aulis.com/stereoparallax.htm


    Almost all of the people who maintain that the Apollo missions were real also maintain that the Chinese spacewalk* was real so they have no credibility.

    They've all said that the fluttering of the flag here at the thirty second mark wasn't caused by water...

    Chinese Space Walk - 2008
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvpPknmHGAM


    ...so they have no credibility. Can all of you pro-Apollo people tell us right now what you think made the flag flutter in the above video? This is an objectivity test.



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    https://forum.cosmoquest.org/showthread.php?169361-The-Chinese-spacewalk-was-faked-in-a-water-tank

    As of now it's post #155 on page #8 of this thread.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index....studio.362999/

    When the pro-Apollo camp is totally checkmated, the moderator aways either edits the post, or deletes the post, or deletes the whole thread and sometimes bans the hoax-believer. Let's see what he does.

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    This is absolutely the worst stuff I have ever read concerning this subject.

    Lets go back to the very fundamentals to examine if a moon landing is even possible for Cosmo as a way of understanding him. You will observe how he bugs out as we go step by step.

    1. Do you believe human beings have made ballistic missiles and rockets that can enter space? Y or N

    I will define space if you need.

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    You will observe how he bugs out as we go step by step.
    If it's a bunch of irrelevancy with the obvious purpose of just muddying the waters, I usually don't bother.

    1. Do you believe human beings have made ballistic missiles and rockets that can enter space? Y or N
    Yes.
    Here's something you should watch.

    Jarrah White: "Go away, Flat Earthers & Space Travel Deniers!"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbQTD6QOanE


    Please answer the question I asked about the fluttering flag in the Chinese spacewalk.


    That question makes a good objectivity test for pro-Apollo posters. The official NASA position is that the Chinese spacewalk was real so the sophists here have to agree with NASA. That anomaly is so clear that anyone who tries to obfuscate it just ends up looking like a horse's a-s so they usually try to avoid answering it. Sometimes they try to obfuscate it and end up looking silly. Look at the post after this one.
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...=1#post9156842

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    If it's a bunch of irrelevancy with the obvious purpose of just muddying the waters, I usually don't bother.



    Yes.
    Here's something you should watch.

    Jarrah White: "Go away, Flat Earthers & Space Travel Deniers!"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbQTD6QOanE


    Please answer the question I asked about the fluttering flag in the Chinese spacewalk.


    That question makes a good objectivity test for pro-Apollo posters. The official NASA position is that the Chinese spacewalk was real so the sophists here have to agree with NASA. That anomaly is so clear that anyone who tries to obfuscate it just ends up looking like a horse's a-s so they usually try to avoid answering it. Sometimes they try to obfuscate it and end up looking silly. Look at the post after this one.
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...=1#post9156842
    Again.

    Do human beings have The ability to send rockets into space?

    You say Apollo missions to the moon not only did not happen, they were staged. I understand this belief. Don’t agree with it because I know that technically it is absolutely possible and in fact MORE LIKELY than a staged production.

    So, let’s find out what you believe what our capabilities are in order to understand your objection. (This is will accomplish exactly the opposite of muddying the water. It is going step by step to see what you think is technologically possible. So stop with the muddying and answer the question)

    Do human beings have the capability to send rockets into space? (I can start off even more basics by asking if humans have the technology to fly)

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    If it's a bunch of irrelevancy with the obvious purpose of just muddying the waters, I usually don't bother.



    Yes.
    Here's something you should watch.

    Jarrah White: "Go away, Flat Earthers & Space Travel Deniers!"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbQTD6QOanE


    Please answer the question I asked about the fluttering flag in the Chinese spacewalk.


    That question makes a good objectivity test for pro-Apollo posters. The official NASA position is that the Chinese spacewalk was real so the sophists here have to agree with NASA. That anomaly is so clear that anyone who tries to obfuscate it just ends up looking like a horse's a-s so they usually try to avoid answering it. Sometimes they try to obfuscate it and end up looking silly. Look at the post after this one.
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...=1#post9156842
    I have already explained the fluttering flag. With no atmosphere the flag should flutter if handled by a force. It should vacillate back and forth as there is no static atmosphere to stop it (friction) from going through SHM which I is exactly what happened. It should die out after enough of the initial energy of setting the flag up is given off as heat in the twisting molecules within the flag, pole and even ground.

    Easy.
    The 1/6 g on the moon would make the oscillation last longer than the same experiment done in a vacuum on the earth.

    So now answer the question above this.

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    Again.

    Do human beings have The ability to send rockets into space?
    I answered "Yes" in my last post.

    You ignored my request that you say whether you think that water caused the flag to flutter at the thirty second time mark of this video.

    Chinese Space Walk - 2008
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvpPknmHGAM


    This is an objectivity test and paid sophists* usually try to sidestep the issue because they are between a rock and a hard place. They can't say water caused the fluttering because they can't go against the official story and they can't say that water didn't cause the fluttering becuase they'll look like horses' a---s. Pgardn appears to be a paid sophist.


    *
    http://www.whale.to/m/disin.html
    https://karmayogadaily.com/2012/09/2...mation-poster/


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    His last post appeared about ten seconds before mine.

    There's no idnentifiable force causing the flag to move except a medium such as gas or liquid. This it too clear to obfuscate. You have failed the objectivity test. You're not an objective truth-seeker. You are either a troll, or a paid sophist.

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