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    exactly

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    I just happen to think an American people who want to sit on their asses all day and have things handed to them needs a government that will stick a muzzle in their face and a boot in their ass and tell them to get to work.

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    The "adult conversation" we need to be having is how the heck did we end up with these two ups running for POTUS.
    failed upward impressively, you gotta admit

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    Western societies really aren't capable of producing the quality of leaders they had during their heydays.

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    your stupid is showing.

    We have a previous Ryan plan that was being discussed. Democrats hated it.
    There's apparently a plethora of Ryan plans, depending on who you ask.
    It's a moving target, high on headlines, small on details.

    v1.0: "we'll get rid of capital gains"
    v2.0: "we'll just cut capital gains"
    Mitt: "we'll leave capital gains as is"

    v1.0: "we'll switch medicare to vouchers"
    v2.0: "we'll switch medicare to vouchers OR you can keep medicare as is"
    Mitt: "we'll repackage medicare as a fixed amount benefit (vouchers)"

    We do not yet have a specifically defined Romney plan.
    Uh? Who runs mittromney.com?

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    Did it ever start to occur to you that people get the government they deserve?
    When is the revolution starting?

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    failed upward impressively, you gotta admit
    No doubt. But money and apparatus plays a huge role. Voting Gary Johnson isn't changing it.

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    When is the revolution starting?
    When the fiscal crisis hits.

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    There's apparently a plethora of Ryan plans, depending on who you ask.
    It's a moving target, high on headlines, small on details.

    v1.0: "we'll get rid of capital gains"
    v2.0: "we'll just cut capital gains"
    Mitt: "we'll leave capital gains as is"

    v1.0: "we'll switch medicare to vouchers"
    v2.0: "we'll switch medicare to vouchers OR you can keep medicare as is"
    Mitt: "we'll repackage medicare as a fixed amount benefit (vouchers)"





    want me to start posting Biden quotes?

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    want me to start posting Biden quotes?
    So there's no plan? Okay.

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    The "adult conversation" we need to be having is how the heck did we end up with these two ups running for POTUS.
    I actually thought about starting a new thread the other day with a poll question asking if America would be better off having a choice between Kerry and Dole instead of Obama and Romney?

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    When the fiscal crisis hits.
    this. militia's takin ova.

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    this. militia's takin ova.

    the gun fetish "patriots" would be crushed.

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    the gun fetish "patriots" would be crushed.
    I shiver at the thought of what your fetish may be.

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    Other than the obvious fetish you have for that is.

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    this. militia's takin ova.
    Nah that is not what usually happens during severe economic crisis.



    At least not in this country.

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    the gun fetish "patriots" would be crushed.
    You are assuming that our military would turn the guns on the public. Historically speaking there is a higher probability they would turn their guns on the existing government.

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    the gun fetish "patriots" would be crushed.
    You're silly and don't have a clue. Lol out of the loop. Over half of America is awake, brah.

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    Nobody gives a about Willard's history, the tax returns are simply relevant to debates about the economy and the tax code tbh......
    How? Did you demand to see Barack Obama's medical records during the health care debate?

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    How? Did you demand to see Barack Obama's medical records during the health care debate?

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    You are assuming that our military would turn the guns on the public. Historically speaking there is a higher probability they would turn their guns on the existing government.
    Yep. At least 1/3 of the current military would defect in such a scenario. It'd be a large portion of the current military, all the vets, and the civilian masses and militias vs the system if such a scenario ever arose.

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    You're silly and don't have a clue. Lol out of the loop. Over half of America is awake, brah.
    yah the military doesn't have all sorts of ways/weapons to deal with that

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    How? Did you demand to see Barack Obama's medical records during the health care debate?


    Alright, point for Yoni.

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    Yep. At least 1/3 of the current military would defect in such a scenario. It'd be a large portion of the current military, all the vets, and the civilian masses and militias vs the system if such a scenario ever arose.
    Actually, I have more faith in our military than that. Were the President to order the JCS to start murdering civilians I suspect and hope we would suddenly have a new opening in the POTUS position and right on down the line until someone realized that was a bad idea.

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    yah the military doesn't have all sorts of ways/weapons to deal with that
    Illegal to use the military against the people per the cons ution. If they started murdering civilians using weapons of war, we would simply ask for Russia/China and the rest of the world community to impose a no fly zone under humanitarian grounds.

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