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    Actually, I have more faith in our military than that. Were the President to order the JCS to start murdering civilians I suspect and hope we would suddenly have a new opening in the POTUS position and right on down the line until someone realized that was a bad idea.
    No murder necessary with the new heat rays and glue guns!


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    ^violation of posse comitatus

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    when did you take off your tinfoil hat?

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    You are assuming that our military would turn the guns on the public. Historically speaking there is a higher probability they would turn their guns on the existing government.
    Just curious, what historical precedent are you referring to?

    I am trying to think of a riot where the national guard was called in and there was anything resembling a coup d'etat.

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    How? Did you demand to see Barack Obama's medical records during the health care debate?
    As if that's the same thing...

    The fact is, a tax hike-loving former governor with a history of using tax returns against political opponents should not be this reluctant to show his own returns, tbh...

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    The funniest part to me is that Romney's defense is that he paid 13% as if that is a "good" answer.

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    The funniest part to me is that Romney's defense is that he paid 13% as if that is a "good" answer.
    That's more than Obama's 12%.

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    That's more than Obama's 12%.
    lol you're just going to take his word for it.

    lol irrelevant cons utional "arguments"

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    lol you're just going to take his word for it.

    lol irrelevant cons utional "arguments"
    Just saying.

    If 13% was the least he paid in taxes, then it's still better than Obama's year of 12%.

    What reason do I have not to believe him? What reason do you have not to believe him?

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    Just saying.

    If 13% was the least he paid in taxes, then it's still better than Obama's year of 12%.
    What year did he pay that rate? Link.

    What reason do I have not to believe him? What reason do you have not to believe him?
    What reason did you have to be a birther?

    Just saying.

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    What year did he pay that rate? Link.
    I don't remember, but it was in the news a few years back.
    What reason did you have to be a birther?

    Just saying.
    I'm not. If you could keep your facts strait, you would know that.

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    damn, liberals have some small s

    b-b-but he made teh monies

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    I don't remember, but it was in the news a few years back.
    What reason do I have to believe you?

    I'm not. If you could keep your facts strait, you would know that.
    What reason would I have to expect you to remember?

    Just saying.

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    That's more than Obama's 12%.
    The difference is, Obama wants to raise taxes on rich people like himself. If Romney/Ryan get their way, Romney will be paying close to 0% in taxes in the future.

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    ^not true, romney said himself that he seeks to eliminate the tax loopholes.

    now we all know that all politicians lie, but if we're going to pretend to take obama at his word then we need to take romney at his.

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    The funniest part to me is that Romney's defense is that he paid 13% as if that is a "good" answer.
    Is there a "good" or "bad" answer? If that's what he had to pay, then that's what he had to pay. It's not like he picked the tax rates.

    If this wouldn't be politics as usual, the only discussion this should spark is what each candidate thinks should be the tax policy going forward, and why.

    But it is politics as usual, which means we'll keep hearing superficial like the missing tax returns, the long lost brother, the koch vrwc, the youtube of the week, the missing college transcripts, the media/pollster bias, the omg he used stimulus money!, dumb joe latest unscripted gaffe, death panels!, etc etc etc

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    Obama has to resort to these tactics because he can't run on his track record as president the past 4 years. Boiled down this is pretty much it.

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    Obama has to resort to these tactics because he can't run on his track record as president the past 4 years. Boiled down this is pretty much it.
    Agreed.....


    Funny though how many people eat this up...."rich people bad.....share your money"!!!

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    Agreed.....


    Funny though how many people eat this up...."rich people bad.....share your money"!!!
    Jealousy.

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    The funniest part to me is that Romney's defense is that he paid 13% as if that is a "good" answer.
    Exactly...

    What he should have said was “I paid all the taxes I owe and I didn’t pay taxes which I don’t owe and I recommend all taxpayers do the same.”

    The implication is that he somehow gamed the system - of which there is no evidence...

    Now if you want make an argument that the capital gains tax rate needs adjusting - then that is a whole different discussion...

    If there was a presidential candidate who overpaid his taxes because the tax rate seemed artificially low to him - you'd have to question his sanity...

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    b-b-but he made teh monies
    Not the issue, tbh....

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    ^not true, romney said himself that he seeks to eliminate the tax loopholes.

    now we all know that all politicians lie, but if we're going to pretend to take obama at his word then we need to take romney at his.
    Gecko ain't eliminating not one of the 100s of loopholes he and the 1% use to avoid $Bs of taxes, but Ryan, see he budget, will increase the tax burden on the 99%.

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    Just saying.

    If 13% was the least he paid in taxes, then it's still better than Obama's year of 12%.

    What reason do I have not to believe him? What reason do you have not to believe him?
    13%? he didn't specify if the type of tax

    eg, a study showed the in TX the lower 50% pay more in total taxe percentage that the TX 1%, when ALL taxes are calculated.

    I bet Gecko is including property, sales, etc, tax to get up to 13% because as Reid said, he paid 0% in income/capital gains taxes. And that's probably 13% of a much smaller number than his real income, much of which can be assumed to be hidden, probably illegally, offshore. He pays accountants and tax lawyers $100Ks annually to avoid/evade taxes.

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    ^not true, romney said himself that he seeks to eliminate the tax loopholes.

    now we all know that all politicians lie, but if we're going to pretend to take obama at his word then we need to take romney at his.

    Romney pays the capital gains rate, which is currently at 15%, (he ended up paying 13.9%, so he's not using many loopholes) which both he and Paul Ryan have signaled they want to cut. Ryan's original plan called for eliminating the capital gains tax all together. So yes, my original point is true.

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    I bet Romney paid more in taxes then any of you did that are complaining. Prolly more in one year then most of you in a lifetime. God bless

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