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    Because Obama's budget that he passed each of the last three years have really helped reduce the deficit and debt.


    huh?

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    or, what ever the appropriations are, is the budget. until about 1920 that's we did it. maybe we're going back to that.

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    facetious. look at the context, dude.

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    I expected no substance in his speech last night, although I would like to see how Romney/Ryan will be reducing the deficit/debt over the short and long term. To date, I have seen promises of tax cuts and 'simplified tax code' but no details on how the debt will be reduced.
    Agreed, but I'd also like a long lost rich uncle to leave me a billion dollars in his will. It's just not going to happen. , the United States Government wouldn't even tell us what was in the Obamacare bill until after it was passed, you think they're going to lay out their plans prior to election?

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    facetious. look at the context, dude.
    He's going to have to look up the words facetious and context to understand this post.

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    Because Obama's budget that he passed each of the last three years have really helped reduce the deficit and debt. I love voting for politicians who kept their promises like cutting the deficit in half. I love voting for politicians who call 10 trillion unpatriotic but have no problem with adding 5 trillion more to the deficit.

    Politicians don't give specifics. If your criteria for not voting R is because of their lack of specifics then you are not being intellectually honest with yourself. If you vote for team politics there is nothing wrong with that given the current political climate. We don’t have many options. The rhetoric and spin might make the sides appear as polar opposites, but the conclusions have been almost entirely the same for each party. Can you distinguish the last 12 years by which political party was actually in office?

    I have seen nothing but spending money we don’t have, unnecessary wars, promises that cannot be kept and that are made with no intention on being kept. I have seen a president who wins a Nobel Peace Prize while having a kill list, another president who spoke and acted as if he couldn’t pass the TASP test preach the importance of not leaving children behind. Seriously, lack of specifics only matters now?
    Specifics are required when one side is still blatantly selling trickle down economics as path to deficit/debt reduction as if we do not have ample evidence this failed policy.

    Obama has failed in this regard, but he has at least taken a more pragmatic approach at a minimum admitting that spending cuts and revenue will need to be part of the solution.

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    The bottom line is this: When Fox News fact checks you and calls you out for being a liar, then yes, your attempt at winning over America was an epic fail.
    Amusing.

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    Obama has failed in this regard, but he has at least taken a more pragmatic approach at a minimum admitting that spending cuts and revenue will need to be part of the solution.
    Boy that clears it up for me.

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    Boy that clears it up for me.
    I realize that simply admitting that to tackle the debt/deficit will require revenue and spending cuts is a pretty low bar, but it is better than what Romney/Ryan are proposing imo. Romney/Ryan are on record saying they would deny 10/1 spending cuts to revenue increases. This is illogical and stupid. I'm as fed up as the next guy, but these are the candidates we have been presented.

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    I thought Barry *did* send a budget to Congress. Congress passing it or not is irrelevant if you want to see where Barry wants the dough to go.

    For 2012, you can see what was requested in the "Requested" column:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Un...federal_budget

    Same for 2013:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Un...federal_budget

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    Ryan seems to be a bright guy, but I'm not sure how anyone watching his speech think he can win alot of votes or be popular. He just sounds really geeky up there with little personality. A bit feminine as well when he speaks.

    Whenever I watch Paul Ryan speak I see the Beaver . Ryan's mannerisms are hilarious. When he pauses after saying something, purses his lips and looks around at the audience he looks so dorky I can't help but chuckle. And he makes that same expression so many times throughout any speech.


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    Mitts big speech is coming up tonight. I hope all of you watch it. God bless

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    let me guess, jack... it was a great speech! ron bless

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    I did everything I could to not watch the convention. It wasn't easy, as most stations were showing it.

    On a lighter note, I met Judge Judy in Hartford at Morton's Steakhouse. That was cool.

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    I did everything I could to not watch the convention. It wasn't easy, as most stations were showing it.
    I'm not even trying to avoid it, and haven't seen any of it... Though it's mostly the wife watching TV...

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    I realize that simply admitting that to tackle the debt/deficit will require revenue and spending cuts is a pretty low bar, but it is better than what Romney/Ryan are proposing imo. Romney/Ryan are on record saying they would deny 10/1 spending cuts to revenue increases. This is illogical and stupid. I'm as fed up as the next guy, but these are the candidates we have been presented.
    So just to be clear, no plan that legitimately addresses en lements is better than plan that does? That's not a low bar...that's no bar.

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    UGH, they stopped football to break to the convention about 30 seconds ago.

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    I'm not even trying to avoid it, and haven't seen any of it... Though it's mostly the wife watching TV...
    Well at the end of the day and you're in a hotel room, your choices are limited.

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    This little routine by Eastwood is terrible.

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    So just to be clear, no plan that legitimately addresses en lements is better than plan that does? That's not a low bar...that's no bar.
    Who said that? The Obama/Bohner deal that Paul Ryan helped scuttle because it contained revenue addressed en lements. The Bowles Simpson proposal addressed en lements which was also partially sunk by Ryan because it contained revenue. I realize Obama ignored Bowles Simpson for political purposes, but I think he may push for something similar in a second term. It'll be sunk by the Republican controlled house, but Obama has been willing to negotiate en lement reform in exchange for revenue. The Ryan wing of the house has shown no such willingness to negotiate.
    Last edited by Th'Pusher; 08-30-2012 at 09:49 PM.

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    Well at the end of the day and you're in a hotel room, your choices are limited.
    right after I typed that, she switched to the news and there's Clint Eastwood

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    This little routine by Eastwood is terrible.
    I would vote for him in a heartbeat if he would be 20 years younger, tbh

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    First time I see and hear Rubio... and I already can't stand him

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    let me guess, jack... it was a great speech! ron bless
    We don't know yet, brother. God bless

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