Page 10 of 11 FirstFirst ... 67891011 LastLast
Results 226 to 250 of 258
  1. #226
    dangerous floater Winehole23's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Post Count
    66,781
    Updated 7:20 pm
    We have some new information on Republican vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan's claim in a radio interview of a sub-3:00 marathon.


    A spokesman for the Romney-Ryan campaign e-mailed Runner's World today to say Ryan ran Grandma's Marathon in Duluth, Minnesota, while a college student in 1991.
    When asked about Ryan’s finishing time, the spokesman said, "His comments on the [radio] show were the best of his recollection."


    Ryan's name does not show up in the 1991 race results provided by Grandma's. Runner's World checked 11 years of results for Grandma's Marathon, from 1988 through 1998, and found a finisher in the 1990 race by the name of Paul D. Ryan, 20, of Minneapolis.
    Ryan's middle name is Davis, and he was 20 in 1990. The finishing time listed was 4 hours, 1 minute and 25 seconds.


    We are awaiting confirmation from the Ryan camp that the vice presidential nominee is the Paul D. Ryan listed in the race results – and, if he is, whether he ran any other marathons faster than 4:01:25.


    Page 33 of the 1990 Grandma's Marathon results, showing a Paul D. Ryan running a 4:01:25. Click to enlarge.
    http://news.runnersworld.com/2012/08...-300-marathon/

  2. #227
    dangerous floater Winehole23's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Post Count
    66,781
    verdict from the cynical, highly partisan fact checkers at Runner's World:

    Updated 12:29 am


    It turns out Paul Ryan has not run a marathon in less than three hours—or even less than four hours.


    A spokesman confirmed late Friday that the Republican vice presidential candidate has run one marathon. That was the 1990 Grandma’s Marathon in Duluth, Minnesota, where Ryan, then 20, is listed as having finished in 4 hours, 1 minute, and 25 seconds.

    Ryan had said in a radio interview last week that his personal best was "Under three, high twos. I had a two hour and fifty-something."


    In a statement issued to Runner's World by a spokesman Friday night, Ryan said of his marathon experience:


    "The race was more than 20 years ago, but my brother Tobin—who ran Boston last year—reminds me that he is the owner of the fastest marathon in the family and has never himself ran a sub-three. If I were to do any rounding, it would certainly be to four hours, not three. He gave me a good ribbing over this at dinner tonight."
    http://news.runnersworld.com/2012/08...-300-marathon/
    Last edited by Winehole23; 09-02-2012 at 08:21 AM.

  3. #228
    dangerous floater Winehole23's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Post Count
    66,781
    the relevant dialogue from the Hugh Hewitt show:

    HH: Are you still running?
    PR: Yeah, I hurt a disc in my back, so I don't run marathons anymore. I just run ten miles or yes.
    HH: But you did run marathons at some point?
    PR: Yeah, but I can't do it anymore, because my back is just not that great.
    HH: I've just gotta ask, what's your personal best?
    PR: Under three, high twos. I had a two hour and fifty-something.
    HH: Holy smokes.
    PR: I was fast when I was younger, yeah.

  4. #229
    dangerous floater Winehole23's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Post Count
    66,781
    spin away, Red Team

  5. #230
    dangerous floater Winehole23's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Post Count
    66,781

  6. #231
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Post Count
    89,002
    More "Repug Facts" as they go after the straw man HUSSEIN.


    The Real Obama Needs to Fight Five GOP Myths About the Imaginary Obama


    1) The “gutting welfare” myth.

    The Romney camp says these ads have produced tremendous responses from focus groups, and it’s easy to see why—the black president giving free stuff to the black moocher class, as they see it. It’s been pretty much universally nailed as a lie. But it’s still a safe bet that a majority of voters don’t yet know it’s a lie. It has the potential to do enormous damage. Obama, and especially trustworthy surrogates, starting with Bill Clinton, need to let people know forcefully next week that it’s false.

    2) The Medicare lies.

    As I’ve noted many times, what Romney and Paul Ryan are doing here is disingenuous but clever and difficult to rebut. Any senior who’s been paying attention has probably been more or less sold on the idea that people over 55 have nothing to worry about. That isn’t so, as I have written, but the explanation for why is fairly complicated. The lower-hanging fruit is not the Ryan plan but the Romney plan, and Romney, after all, is the nominee. As I explained Thursday, if Romney is going to keep the four big promises he’s made, Medicare is going to get whacked. Not in the 2030s, but during President Romney’s first term. That needn’t be too hard to explain. And Obama should throw in that Real Obama, as opposed to Imaginary Obama, has already saved today’s seniors money by closing the doughnut hole and making certain key preventive-care services for seniors in traditional Medicare free (yes, free).

    That’s a word most people grasp pretty easily, I should think.

    3) Obama believes that jobs come from government.

    This myth is potentially really harmful to Obama, as it fits into various preconceived notions and a lot of claptrap people have been hearing for the last four years. The Real Obama chart, based on statistics, rebuts all that pretty instantly. The public sector grew 4 percent under George W. Bush and has shrunk by 3 percent under Obama, and private-sector hiring under Obama is stronger than under Bush. Again, such information may be better coming from Clinton, or even Charlie Crist, than Obama himself, but the narrative that Obama wants us all to suckle at the public teat all our lives can’t go unanswered.

    4) The stimulus was a failure.

    Now we’re getting into more controversial territory, and the Obama team probably won’t have the guts to take this on. It should. We can assume that Chicago has been reading The New New Deal, Michael Grunwald’s excellent book arguing that the stimulus largely worked. Grunwald offers a synopsis of the book in a Foreign Policy piece. The big mistake Obama and his people made at the time was promising more than the stimulus delivered. But it did deliver. The claims here must be specific and precise and true, so that when reporters go out to see the new alternative-energy facility in Colorado built with stimulus funds, they’ll report that by gum it exists.
    President Barack Obama Debarks Air Force One

    President Barack Obama walks down the stairs during his arrival on Air Force One at Andrews Air Force Base, Tuesday, Aug. 29, 2012. (Pablo Martinez Monsivais / AP Photo)

    5) Obama is a nice kid in over his head.

    Smacking this down may be the most important of all. This is the famous “permission” line, that is, giving 2008 Obama supporters permission to walk away without feeling guilty. It’s aimed straight at undecided voters, whereas most of the Republicans’ other nonsense is directed to their base. Obama needs a strong troika here: “I don’t think I was in over my head when I announced my support for marriage equality, which my advisers told me was a risky thing to do and I shouldn’t go there. I don’t think I was in over my head when we passed the most meaningful legislation to protect consumers since the New Deal. And I humbly suggest that I wasn’t in over my head on May 1, 2011, when I ordered the mission on which our brave SEALs got Osama bin Laden.” He’ll bring down the house, and the line would be replayed a thousand times.


    http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...=Cheat%20Sheet

  7. #232
    Veteran Wild Cobra's Avatar
    My Team
    Portland Trailblazers
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Post Count
    43,110

  8. #233
    Veteran scott's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Post Count
    8,261
    Cellular One was around in 1990?
    In 1977, the American Radio Telephone Service and Motorola formed Cellular One to offer service to the Baltimore/Washington, D.C., area. In 1984, cellular service began in the Baltimore/DC area.
    The Baltimore/DC service, and the rights to the name Cellular One, were sold from Metromedia to Southwestern Bell in 1987. In 1989, Southwestern Bell Mobile Systems and McCaw Communications formed a partnership called Cellular One Group. In 1992, Vanguard Cellular Systems joined the group. In 1995, Cellular One opened up membership in the partnership to all A-side providers. Under the U.S. AMPS allocation, A-side providers were independent wireless operators, while B-side providers were usually affiliates of the local landline telephone company. A new slogan was also developed, "Cellular One: Clear Across America", recognizing cellular's national reach, although there were very few national plans at this time. In 1995, Cellular One affiliates had over 5 million customers and affiliates' towers served approximately 69% of the U.S. population.[1] Also in 1995, SNET joined the partnership. Not all A-side carriers participated: most notably, L.A. Cellular, in the nation's second largest market, Los Angeles, never participated in Cellular One, and did not have agreements with Cellular One for some time. AT&T purchased McCaw Cellular in 1994; shortly thereafter, AT&T renamed the former McCaw providers "AT&T Wireless" and dropped out of the partnership. Western Wireless joined the partnership in 1999.
    When SBC Communications (which purchased SNET in 1998) and BellSouth merged their wireless operations into Cingular Wireless in 2001, the Cellular One group name became the sole property of Western Wireless. In 2004 Cingular merged with AT&T Wireless, which had acquired Vanguard in 1999, formally reuniting the original Cellular One partnership into a single company.

  9. #234
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Post Count
    89,002
    Ryan admits he lied about his marathon time. Repugs think they are "en led" to make up and spew it as fact. How naive.

  10. #235
    dangerous floater Winehole23's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Post Count
    66,781
    The Dutch have a system intended to avoid the sort of fact-free insult-hurling that has plagued America's presidential race this year. The discussion in America over the rival candidates' budget plans has taken place in a vague and undefined discursive space, largely because the Romney-Ryan campaign does not actually have a budget plan. Mr Romney says he will keep the Bush tax cuts, slash income tax rates across the board by 20%, eliminate capital-gains tax for income under $100,000 per year, maintain defence spending, restore the $716 billion over ten years which the Obama (and Ryan) budget would have cut from Medicare outlays, and shrink the budget deficit by closing tax preferences, none of which he specifies. This doesn't add up, as the Center for Tax Policy found last month, but it's hard to say just how it will fail to add up, because Mr Romney has no item-by-item budget plan; we really have no idea how much he proposes to spend if he's elected.


    In the Dutch electoral system, this can't happen. Two months before the elections, every political party is expected to submit a detailed budget plan to a non-partisan agency called the Central Plan Bureau (CPB), which plays a role similar to the Congressional Budget Office in America. The CPB produces an analysis of the economic consequences of those budget plans. The effects are assessed in detail for 2013-2017, and there's also a prognosis for 2040 to discourage parties from larding up their budgets with short-term candy that leads to negative long-term consequences. The CPB's report came out Monday, and most parties had their strong and weak points. Of the two parties most likely to win the elections, the Liberals did well on deficit-cutting and long-term job creation but hiked income inequality and hurt household purchasing power; the Socialists did well on purchasing power and jobs in the short run but had low employment growth in the long run.


    The Socialists, however, were angry about a separate point: the CPB found their plans to reduce free-market compe ion in the health sector would lead to waiting lists. The Socialists say this isn't true, that it depends how much you're willing to spend on the sector, and they say that question doesn't fall within the CPB's remit; they're not health-care experts, they're economic experts, and they're expected to simply report what the economic effects would be. That disagreement came on top of Socialist anger over another health-care clash during a candidate debate last Sunday. In the debate, the Socialist candidate, Emile Roemer, started to lay into the Liberal candidate and current premiere, Mark Rutte, for proposing to increase out-of-pocket expenses in health-insurance plans. Mr Rutte immediately denied that he had proposed to do so. Mr Roemer, like most political observers who believed the Liberals' plans to raise the out-of-pocket limit were public knowledge, was flummoxed. It turned out after the debate that Mr Rutte had worked out a complicated theory that his party's plans cons uted a transfer of some types of expenses from one category to another, rather than a hike in out-of-pocket expenses as such; but fact-checkers ruled this claim was false, and that the Liberal proposal was basically a hike in the out-of-pocket limit. In the meantime, however, Mr Rutte had effectively shut down Mr Roemer's attack in front of prime-time viewers. Mr Roemer was widely agreed to have lost the debate, and the Socialists have declined in the polls this week.


    The upshot is that, just as in America, the Dutch media are tossing around the question of whether neutral evaluations in the political campaign are worth anything. Some question the usefulness of the economic models the CPB uses, which (like all economic models) have never successfully predicted what the economy will do several years down the road. Others wonder whether the Dutch public pays any attention to fact-checkers, or whether a politician is better off scoring a telling point even if it turns out not to be true. Hence the headline of the Volkskrant article, which refers to the controversy over the Republican campaign in America but might as well be talking about the Dutch one: "The results count, not the truth".


    What the comparison with the American example points out, though, is that, for all the current media scepticism, the mechanism of the CPB evaluation dramatically raises the caliber of the electoral debate in the Netherlands. Obviously such assessments are to a large extent artificial: the actual budget of the Dutch government will look nothing like any of the proposals submitted by the parties, because the government will be a coalition of several parties, and the budget will be the result of a negotiating process. The same thing happens in America, where the president's proposed budget bears only a vague relationship to what ultimately emerges from Congress. Nonetheless, by forcing each party to commit to hard numbers in its budget proposals, the CPB evaluation tethers the Dutch political debate to fiscal reality. Even the Socialists, the party most often accused of fiscal irresponsibility, have presented a plan full of cuts and tax hikes that eliminates the budget deficit by 2017. Arguably, this bias towards austerity is pro-cyclical and a bad thing in a liquidity trap; perhaps the Dutch system encourages too much probity, but that's a separate subject. The point is, it is simply impossible, in the Netherlands, for a political party to end up systematically ignoring math and accounting the way the Republicans have at least since George Bush's campaign in 2000.


    Could we ins ute something like this in America? No. We can't. The reason is that in America, there are only two significant political parties. It's impossible for a neutral arbiter to preserve its public legitimacy when ruling on subjects of partisan dispute in an election if there are only two disputing parties. Neither side will accept the referee's judgments. The reason it works, for the moment, in the Netherlands is that there are currently ten parties represented in parliament, four to six of which are major contenders. That spreads the political polarities out in different directions and creates more space for neutrality.
    http://www.economist.com/blogs/democ.../fact-checkers

  11. #236
    Scrumtrulescent
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Post Count
    9,557
    Love the concept, but there would only be me and about 8 other people in the country who would actually interested in it.

  12. #237
    dangerous floater Winehole23's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Post Count
    66,781
    and, as pointed out in the piece, the two party system pretty much precludes any verdict of neutral referees being widely accepted.

  13. #238
    Scrumtrulescent
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Post Count
    9,557
    Yep. The problem goes even beyond that though. The way campaigns are run these days the worst thing you can do if you're trying to get elected is go public with an actual plan. Heaven forbid you put out a real plan and risk the possibility of a swing voter finding something they don't like in there.

  14. #239
    dangerous floater Winehole23's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Post Count
    66,781
    yep

  15. #240
    dangerous floater Winehole23's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Post Count
    66,781
    political commitment in our system is pretty much faith-based, but in a way, it almost has to be. rational evaluation before the election is more or less impossible because both parties hide the ball. ideological pietism has replaced rational self-interest. I'm very doubtful this situation is reversible.

  16. #241
    Veteran EVAY's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Post Count
    7,563
    The problem isn't the jerk in the oval office.

    The problem, as the Bush administration ooh so aptly demonstrated, is the kinds of people that person will populate the goverment with.

    Sorry, the extreme right wing in this country will scream for, and get, a lot of the reins of power in a Romney administration.

    If you don't see that happening, you need to keep reading, mr. floater.
    This.

    In a nuts , this is EXACTLY the problem.

  17. #242
    dangerous floater Winehole23's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Post Count
    66,781
    so, the jerk in the Oval office is the problem, because he can appoint odious bas s.

  18. #243
    I play pretty, no? TeyshaBlue's Avatar
    My Team
    Dallas Mavericks
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Post Count
    13,253
    Yeah, I was there on page 2.

  19. #244
    dangerous floater Winehole23's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Post Count
    66,781
    needed reiterating

  20. #245
    dangerous floater Winehole23's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Post Count
    66,781
    a fanatical and extreme minority continues to wage a pitiless jihad against false distinctions . . .

  21. #246
    Veteran EVAY's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Post Count
    7,563
    so, the jerk in the Oval office is the problem, because he can appoint odious bas s.
    Well, WH, I read the comment from RG to mean that the personage of the guy in the WhiteHouse is not so much the problem as the people of his party (whichever party) who populate the executive branch departments responsible for interpreting the laws and directives of the executive branch.

    In my opinion, it is not only the FEMA or Defense Department (Rumsfeld) or the
    Justice Dep't. (Holder) or the HHS Dep't (Sibelius) per se, but the fact that the party's big guns have so much say about who gets in those jobs.

    This may indeed be a distinction without a difference in the elevated view of you and TB, but I think it one worth making.

    And it is one that leaves people like me not having a clue who to vote for in the upcoming election...Obama who has already made some truly boneheaded
    appointments and will be in a position of not being beholden to the voters the next time he makes such appointments (if he gets reelected), or Romney, who will undeniably be beholden to the Sheldon Adelsons and the Koch brothers and the Perry Homes of this election.

    I know that you advocate a third party vote...but for those of us who TRY to pick between one or another candidate who is actually going to be in a position of governing, there has to be a reason somewhere.

    Yourall's condescension is really showing this morning.

  22. #247
    I play pretty, no? TeyshaBlue's Avatar
    My Team
    Dallas Mavericks
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Post Count
    13,253
    Yourall's condescension is really showing this morning.
    STFU. I was on my hands and knees for 3 straight days installing flooring.
    I'll damned sure be cranky and condescending when I wanna.


  23. #248
    dangerous floater Winehole23's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Post Count
    66,781
    apologies, then. no offense meant, but the distinction does seem artificial. understood that people have to pick out good guys and bad guys or at least, the less worse alternative. I prefer neither, but would foist that preference on nobody . . .

  24. #249
    Veteran EVAY's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Post Count
    7,563
    STFU. I was on my hands and knees for 3 straight days installing flooring.
    I'll damned sure be cranky and condescending when I wanna.

    How tempting it is to quote one of Bouton's favorite directives to you at this moment.

  25. #250
    Veteran EVAY's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Post Count
    7,563
    I'll damned sure be cranky and condescending when I wanna.

    Then you should have no problem having it noticed.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 5 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 5 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •