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It did, both times.
I wish it had happened in 2008 or 2012.
It did, both times.
Fox News legal analyst denies voting is a ‘fundamental right’ in US democracy
Not so, according to Fox News analyst Andrew Napolitano. Decrying California’s new law that will automatically register people to vote when they get driver’s licenses, Fox News host Steve Doocy raised fears that the law would let undo ented people “sneak” into citizenship, Mediaite reports.
“There’s a lot of debate, without getting too academic about what the right to vote is,” Napolitano said. “Is it a fundamental right that comes from our humanity like thought and speech and association and worship and self-defense? Or is it a privilege given by the government? In my view, the Supreme Court has wrongly said it’s a fundamental right.”
He then went on to say California will allow people to vote who “aren’t qualified by law to vote.”
According to the New York Times, only qualified voters will be registered, and Californians can opt out of registering if they wish. California Gov. Jerry Brown enacted the law to counter record low voter turn out, following in the footsteps of Oregon, which has similar legislation.
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/fox-...e+Raw+Story%29
Kobach Files First Voting Fraud Charges Since Being Given Authority To Prosecute
Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach's (R) office said Tuesday that he filed his first criminal voter fraud charges since being granted the authority to prosecute such cases earlier this year.
Kobach's office on Friday filed complaints in Johnson County that accused
Betty M. Gaedtke and
Steven K. Gaedtke of "voting without being qualified," a misdemeanor, during the 2010 election. A third complaint filed in Sherman County accused
Lincoln L. Wilson
of election perjury, a felony, as well as voting without being qualified in three elections between 2010 and 2014.
Gov. Sam Brownback (R) in June signed legislation that granted Kobach the authority to pursue criminal charges in voter fraud cases even if local prosecutors opted against advancing those cases.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/kris-kobach-voter-fraud-criminal-charges
THREE!Go Get 'Em, KK!
those don't sound like black or mexican names!
Last edited by boutons_deux; 10-15-2015 at 01:17 PM.
Kansas Voter ID Law Sets Off a New Battle Over Registration
Ms. Flores, who said she was born in Washington State, unwittingly joined a list of more than 36,000 people in Kansas who have tried to register to vote since the law went into effect in 2013, but then did not complete their registration. This month, under a rule adopted by the Kansas secretary of state’s office, county election officials throughout the state began to cull names from the voters list, removing people who had been on it at least 90 days. Those removed from the list must start the registration process over in order to vote.
The move has touched off a new battle over voter registration, pitting the Republican secretary of state, Kris W. Kobach, an ardent supporter of strict voting rules, against Democrats and advocates of voting rights who say the law was intended to suppress voter turnout. Mr. Kobach was named in a federal lawsuit filed in September by two plaintiffs who had applied to register to vote in Kansas but were added to the roll of incomplete registrants when they did not submit proof of their citizenship.
In an interview, Mr. Kobach said culling the list would help address complaints from county clerks that notifying people of the law’s requirements was costly and often ineffective.
He asserted that most of the people on the list had moved since their initial registration or “never had any intention of voting in the first place.”
And he defended the law as necessary to prevent voter fraud.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/10/16...tion.html?_r=0
Proof of citizenship for voter registration makes things tough in Kansas, especially for the young
There are 36,000 incomplete voter registration forms languishing in Kansas thanks to a voter I.D. law that makes it harder for some people to register. Secretary of State Kris Kobach's solution? Purge them. Just throw them out after 90 days.
He says it's not a purge though because these people have never been registered to vote. And, he says, Georgia and Arizona dump incomplete applications after 30 days and 45 days, respectively.So how did this happen?
Kansas passed a strict new law that requires people registering to vote to prove they are a U.S. citizen. And some people learn this when they try to register for the first time and are told they need a passport, birth certificate and naturalization papers to verify their citizenship. Trouble is, lots of people don't have those do ents or don't have access to them. Julie Bosman reports:
Douglas Bonney, the legal director for the American Civil Liberties Union of Kansas, said the Kansas requirements might particularly discourage young voters who do not have ready access to the required do ents. “It has caused a massive wall for them,” he said. [...]“This disproportionately hits 18- to 24-year-olds,” said Jamie Shew, a Democrat and the county clerk for Douglas County. “For a lot of them, they say, ‘I’m not going to worry about it.’ They’re busy, and this is just one more thing to do.”
Another problem is that the Kansas form includes the proof of citizenship requirement, but the federal form does not. Those Kansans who fill out the federal form can only vote in federal elections, not state and local ones.In September, two people sued in federal court over the situation. Opponents of purging the incomplete registrations include the League of Women Voters.http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/1...8Daily+Kos%29#
“From the league’s perspective,” said Marge Ahrens, co-president of the Kansas league, “We don’t just throw away people who say they want to vote.”The fact that more than 30,000 such applications are pending, with 1,100 added each month, she said, shows that the law is bersome.
Kobach is your run-of-the-mill redstate Repug kunt
Alabama is closing DL (aka voter ID) offices to suppress the black vote, but it's insisting on keeping open state-liquor shops, even the ones losing money, because if they were closed, the boozers would have to drive too far.
Chris Christie Vetoes Legislation Making It Easier To Vote In New Jersey
New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) vetoed legislation Monday that would have added 1.6 million new voters to the state’s rolls and made New Jersey the third state in the country to adopt automatic voter registration.
After sitting on the “Democracy Act” for almost five months, the governor and Republican presidential candidate vetoed his second voting rights-related bill in three years, according to the Brennan Center for Justice. Christie has previously said that he does not support making it easier for residents of his state to vote.
“In New Jersey, we have early voting that are available to people,” he said in June. “I don’t want to expand it and increase the opportunities for fraud.”
But Analilia Mejia, the director of New Jersey Working Families, which spearheaded the initiative to have lawmakers introduce the legislation, told ThinkProgress earlier this year that the bill would not be “reinventing the wheel.”
“Most of these things have been moved and adopted in other states successfully,” she said. “It’s just mind-bending that a governor of a state would be against every single one of his citizens having full ease and access to participate in the voting process.”
New Jersey currently ranks 39th in the country in both percentage of eligible voters who are registered and percentage of voters who actually case a ballot, according to NJWF.
The state does not allow in-person early voting, but requires citizens who want to cast an absentee ballot early to apply for one at an election official’s office.
New Jersey also does not permit online voter registration, something that is allowed in 33 other states.
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/20...democracy-act/
Reagan-Appointed Federal Judge Who Approved First Photo ID Law in 2008 Writes Devastating Dissent AGAINST Photo ID Voting Restrictions
If you read just one top-to-bottom dismantling of every supposed premise in support of disenfranchising Photo ID voting restrictions laws in your lifetime, let it be this one [PDF]!
It is a dissent, released on Friday, written by Judge Richard Posner, the Reagan-appointed 7th Circuit Court of Appeals judge who was the one who approved the first such Photo ID law in the country (Indiana's) back in 2008, in the landmark Crawford v. Marion County case which went all the way to the Supreme Court, where Posner's ruling was affirmed.
If there was ever evidence that a jurist could change their mind upon review of additional subsequent evidence, this is it. If there was ever a concise and airtight case made against Photo ID laws and the threat they pose to our most basic right to vote, this is it. If there was ever a treatise revealing such laws for the blatantly partisan s games that they are, this is it.
His dissent includes a devastating response to virtually every false and/or disingenuous rightwing argument/talking point ever put forth in support of Photo ID voting restrictions, describing them as "a mere fig leaf for efforts to disenfranchise voters likely to vote for the political party that does not control the state government."
Posner is, by far, the most widely cited legal scholar of the 20th century, according toThe Journal of Legal Studies. His opinions are closely read by the Supreme Court, where the battle over the legality and Cons utionality of Photo ID voting laws will almost certainly wind up at some point in the not too distant future. That's just one of the reasons why this opinion is so important.
This opinion, written on behalf of five judges on the 7th Circuit, thoroughly disabuses such notions such as:
these laws are meant to deal with a phantom voter fraud concern ("Out of 146 million registered voters, this is a ratio of one case of voter fraud for every 14.6 million eligible voters");
that evidence shows them to be little more than baldly partisan attempts to keep Democratic voters from voting ("conservative states try to make it difficult for people who are outside the mainstream...to vote");
that rightwing partisan outfits like True the Vote, which support such laws, present "evidence" of impersonation fraud that is "downright goofy, if not paranoid";
and the notion that even though there is virtually zero fraud that could even possibly be deterred by Photo ID restrictions, the fact that the public thinks there is, is a lousy reason to disenfranchise voters since there is no evidence that such laws actually increase public confidence in elections and, as new studies now reveal, such laws have indeed served to suppress turnout in states where they have been enacted.
There is far too much in it to appropriately encapsulate here for now. Ya just really need to take some time to read it in full. But it was written, largely, in response to the Appellate Court ruling last week by rightwing Judge Frank Easterbrook whichcontained one embarrassing falsehood and error after another, including the canards about Photo ID being required to board airplanes, open bank accounts, buy beer and guns, etc. We took apart just that one paragraph of Easterbrook's ruling last week here, but Posner takes apart his colleague's entire, error-riddled mess of a ruling in this response.
Amongst my favorite passages (and there are so many), this one [emphasis added]...
The panel is not troubled by the absence of evidence. It deems the supposed beneficial effect of photo ID requirements on public confidence in the electoral system "'a legislative fact'-a proposition about the state of the world," and asserts that "on matters of legislative fact, courts accept the findings of legislatures and judges of the lower courts must accept findings by the Supreme Court." In so saying, the panel conjures up a fact-free cocoon in which to lodge the federal judiciary. As there is no evidence that voter impersonation fraud is a problem, how can the fact that a legislature says it's a problem turn it into one?
If the Wisconsin legislature says witches are a problem, shall Wisconsin courts be permitted to conduct witch trials?
If the Supreme Court once thought that requiring photo identification increases public confidence in elections, and experience and academic study since shows that the Court was mistaken, do we do a favor to the Court - do we increase public confidence in elections-by making the mistake a premise of our decision?
Pressed to its logical extreme the panel's interpretation of and deference to legislative facts would require upholding a photo ID voter law even if it were uncontested that the law eliminated no fraud but did depress turnout significantly.
And this one...
There is only one motivation for imposing burdens on voting that are ostensibly designed to discourage voter-impersonation fraud, if there is no actual danger of such fraud, and that is to discourage voting by persons likely to vote against the party responsible for imposing the burdens.
And remember, once again, this is written by Richard Posner, the conservative Republican icon of a federal appellate court judge --- the judge who wrote the opinion on behalf of the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals approving of the first such Photo ID law in the country in 2008, the very case that rightwingers from Texas to Wisconsin now cite over and over (almost always incorrectly) in support of similar such laws --- now, clearly admitting that he got the entire thing wrong.
One last point (for now): Our legal analyst Ernie Canning, who (along with me) will undoubtedly have much more to say on this dissent in upcoming days, suggests we award The BRAD BLOG's almost-never-anymore-bestowed Intellectually Honest Conservative Award to Judge Posner.
And so it shall be.
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=10867
The New Attack on Hispanic Voting Rights
After the Supreme Court decision that gutted the Voting Rights Act, tactics to suppress minority voting are flourishing — especially in states where Hispanic voters are reshaping the electorate. Part two of an ongoing series.
In 2000, Pasadena, then with a population of about 140,000, was 48 percent Hispanic, on its way to 63 percent today.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/12/20/magazine/block-the-vote.html?_r=0
Kockistan news
Wisconsin GOPers Want To Block Local Governments From Issuing Voter IDs
Wisconsin Republicans are pushing state legislation that would block local governments from issuing voter ID cards -- which are required at the ballot box under a 2011 law -- even though the locals IDs currently being considered in a Milwaukee program aren't meant to be used for voting.
Republican state Sen. Van Wanggaard and state Rep. Joe Sanfelippo are floating a proposal that would bar cities and villages from issuing any photo ID card, according to the Journal Sentinel. It also would require that any ID issued by local governments to state clearly that it does not meet the state's voter ID requirements. Nor can local government IDs be used for any public benefits program, under the proposal.
The memo being circulated claims that the legislation would prevent fraud, and that local IDs would be "potentially misleading, confusing, and unfair to the card's recipient" who would believe he or she qualified for public benefits.
The legislation appears to be a direct response to a program in the works in the Milwaukee areathat would fund the issuance of a photo ID for residents to use when seeking health care, obtaining library cards and setting up bank accounts. The local IDs are meant for Milwaukee's immigrant and homeless populations, as well as victims of domestic violence, runaway youths and transgender people who also face obstacles obtaining state IDs.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewir...+%28TPMNews%29
Voter Fraud Honcho Kobach Blasts ACLU And LWV As 'Communist'
Facing lawsuits over Kansas' requirement for proof of citizenship to register to vote, Secretary of State Kris Kobach on Saturday railed against the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) and the League of Women Voters, labeling both groups "communist."
"The ACLU and their fellow communist friends, the League of Women Voters — you can quote me on that, the communist League of Women Voters — the ACLU and the communist League of Women Voters sued," Kobach said at the Kansas Republican Party's state convention,
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/kris-kobach-aclu-communists?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&u tm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29
Dominant characteristic of Repug politicians: ing stupid
A Republican lawmaker may have inadvertently confirmed Democrats' su ions of voter ID
On Tuesday, Rep. Glenn Grothman (R-WI) got a bit too real about the effect Wisconsin's voter ID law may have on the 2016 presidential election.
Asked about how Ted Cruz or Donald Trump could win Wisconsin in the general election, Grothman said,
"I think Hillary Clinton is about the weakest candidate the Democrats have ever put up. And now we have photo ID, and I think photo ID is going to make a little bit of a difference as well."
http://www.vox.com/2016/4/6/11377078...icans-grothman
gawddam, all y'all Repugs are as stupid as you are racist, mean, nasty.
Kansas Sec. of State'sSpanish-language voter guide misleads voters
Notorious Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach apparently can't even perform the basics of his job—correctly inform people how to register to vote. The state’s Spanish-language voter guide relayed incorrect information about both the registration deadline and acceptable forms of ID for proving one’s citizenship.
Daily Kos diarist Chris Reeves first flagged the major discrepancy last week between the English and Spanish-language versions of the voter guide:
One said voters "must be registered 21 days before" the election, while the other stipulated "15 días," or days, prior to the election.
You'll be shocked to learn that 21 days, the English version, is correct, which means anyone following the Spanish-language version might easily miss the registration deadline. (Reeves also posted the story in Spanish.)
The Spanish-language instructions also conveniently
failed to inform voters that using a passport is an acceptable form of ID for proof of citizenship.
Kobach's office is now covering its tracks, reports Caitlin MacNeal:
Craig McCullah, the official in charge of publications for the Kansas secretary of state, claimed responsibility and said that the office would correct the errors, according to the Kansas City Star.
"It was an administrative error that I am diligently working to fix," he said.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/0...28Daily+Kos%29
error?
KS Repugs cheat as if KS were ever going to turn blue (or brown or black)
Last edited by boutons_deux; 04-15-2016 at 07:03 AM.
Have you guys even considered the facts i presented in post #3?
Lol "facts"
Free From Jail, Imprisoned by Debt
When White was sentenced, he was saddled with $5,800 in criminal fines and fees. By the time he was released, he was stunned to learn that with interest, his debt had grown to $15,000 — and continues to grow even now.
More than 50 years after the 24th Amendment made poll taxes uncons utional in the United States, formerly incarcerated people in at least 30 states are still barred from voting because they’re unable to fully pay their court-related fines and fees.
millions of people — including an estimated 1.5 million African Americans — are blocked from voting because they can’t afford their criminal debt.
That debt starts at sentencing and can grow at interest rates of 12 percent or more while inmates serve their sentences.
It continues to grow after they’re released and face the numerous barriers to finding work and housing.
The reality of racism in the United States and the criminalization of poverty means that black people and other people of color are more likely to be arrested, convicted, and locked up for longer than whites. Blacks are also less likely to regain their right to vote once they’re released.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/04/...soned-by-debt/
Last edited by boutons_deux; 04-14-2016 at 02:08 PM.
no. If it doesn't exist, it doesn't exist.
That is like "agreeing to disagree" about the need for tax-funded unicorn crossing guards.
The thing that differentiates you from the useful idiots, is that you KNOW there is no problem. You are the one cynically manipulating the stupid people, like Wild Cobra.
Much, much worse, IMO.
Yes.
Have you bothered to ing say one goddamned word about how that applies to in-person voter fraud that an ID law might prevent?
My guess is you will, again, say two things... jack... and about that.
nothing to say, really. voter impersonation fraud is infinitessimal. the remedy is worse than the problem.
way worse.
disqualifies more voters than crooks.
but maybe that was the pernt to start with
Republicans’ voter-ID laws ‘work’ as intended
In recent weeks, we’ve seen some high-profile examples of Republicans accidentally telling the truth about voter-ID laws. Rep. Glenn Grothman (R-Wis.), a far-right freshman congressman, admitted a month ago, for example, that these laws are likely to make a difference boosting Republicans in the 2016 elections.
Former Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.), now the head of the Heritage Foundation, added last week that Republicans have kept up the crusade in support of this policy
“because in the states where they do have voter ID laws you’ve seen, actually, elections begin to change towards more conservative candidates.”
But what sometimes goes overlooked is the fact that anti-voting policymakers aren’t just spinning their wheels, pushing an idea that may or may not have some effects on the margins. As the New York Times reported yesterday, Republicans are championing voter-ID laws precisely because they have the intended effect.
Since their inception a decade ago, voter identification laws have been the focus of fierce political and social debate. Proponents, largely Republican, argue that the regulations are essential tools to combat election fraud, while critics contend that they are mainly intended to suppress turnout of Democratic-leaning cons uencies like minorities and students.The Times highlighted a study published by Zoltan Hajnal, a UC San Diego political science professor, whose research found that “strict voter ID laws double or triple the gap in turnout between whites and nonwhites.”
As the general election nears – in which new or strengthened voter ID laws will be in place in Texas and 14 other states for the first time in a presidential election – recent academic research indicates that the requirements restrict turnout and disproportionately affect voting by minorities.
Republicans, frustrated by a series of defeats, had a choice: change and adapt in order to appeal to a larger group of American voters, or take steps to rig the game in order to give GOP candidates a built-in advantage.
In recent years, the party has preferred the latter, finding it vastly easier than actually earning more public support.
And while none of this is especially new – we’ve heard the same ridiculous arguments about the imaginary “voter fraud” scourge for years – candidates this year will face an altered landscape.
The Times’ report added that in 2016, “new or strengthened voter ID laws will be in place in Texas and 14 other states for the first time in a presidential election.”
It means Democrats, who are otherwise optimistic about their chances this year, can’t be satisfied with a lead in the polls going into Election Day – because in much of the country, they’ll need a large enough advantage to overcome voter-suppression tactics.
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-s...d=sm_fb_maddow
The Repugs/VRWC corrupted SCOTUS with 5 extreme right wing/pro-business ACTIVISTS, and it's paying off fantastically.
America is ed and un able. ( I'm still waiting for the evidence-based counter-claim, y'all )
Last edited by boutons_deux; 05-03-2016 at 08:43 AM.
democrat voter laws have worked as intended, too
Link to Dem voter ID laws?democrat voter laws have worked as intended, too
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