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    The GOP's Stealth War Against Voters

    Will an anti-voter-fraud program designed by one of Trump's advisers deny tens of thousands their right to vote in November?

    What's far more likely to undermine democracy in November is the culmination of a decade-long Republican effort to disenfranchise voters under the guise of battling voter fraud.

    The latest tool: Election officials in more than two dozen states have compiled lists of citizens whom they allege could be registered in more than one state – thus potentially able to cast multiple ballots – and eligible to be purged from the voter rolls.

    The data is processed through a system called the

    Interstate Voter Registration Crosscheck Program,

    which is being promoted by a powerful Republican operative, and its lists of potential duplicate voters are kept confidential.

    But Rolling Stone obtained a portion of the list and the names of 1 million targeted voters. According to our analysis,

    The Crosscheck list disproportionately threatens solid Democratic cons uencies:

    young, black, Hispanic and Asian-American voters –

    with some of the biggest possible purges underway in Ohio and North Carolina, two crucial swing states with tight Senate races.


    Like all weapons of vote suppression, Crosscheck is a response to the imaginary menace of mass voter fraud.

    Some states have dropped out of Crosscheck, citing problems with its methodology, as Oregon's secretary of state recently explained: "We left [Crosscheck] because the data we received was unreliable."

    But because voting twice is a felony, state after state told us their lists of suspects were part of a criminal investigation and, as such, confidential.

    Then we got a break. A clerk in Virginia sent us its Crosscheck list of suspects, which a letter from the state later said was done "in error."

    The Virginia list was a revelation. In all, 342,556 names were listed as apparently registered to vote in both Virginia and another state as of January 2014. Thirteen percent of the people on the Crosscheck list, already flagged as inactive voters, were almost immediately removed, meaning a stunning 41,637 names were "canceled" from voter rolls, most of them just before Election Day.


    We were able to obtain more lists – Georgia and Washington state, the total number of voters adding up to more than 1 million matches – and Crosscheck's results seemed at best deeply flawed.

    We found that one-fourth of the names on the list actually lacked a middle-name match.

    The system can also mistakenly identify fathers and sons as the same voter, ignoring designations of Jr. and Sr. A whole lot of people named "James Brown" are suspected of voting or registering twice, 357 of them in Georgia alone.

    But according to Crosscheck, James Willie Brown is supposed to be the same voter as James Arthur Brown. James Clifford Brown is allegedly the same voter as James Lynn Brown.

    ...

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/the-gops-stealth-war-against-voters-w435890


    voting twice is a felony, disenfranchising Ms of voters is legal, rigging voting machines is not even checked. no paper trail

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    SCOTUS ties, the 4 Repug assholes voted to approve NC voter suppression, the other 4 didn't.

    Lower court ruling blocking the voter suppression stands.

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    ‘He is a LIEberal’: Shep Smith tells the truth about voter ID — and conservatives freak out

    Fox News host Shepard Smith drew the ire of conservatives online on Wednesday after reporting on the Supreme Court’s decision not to reinstate North Carolina’s voter ID law for the November election.

    “North Carolina had put in one of those ‘You have to show an ID’ rules which so often in Republican states are designed to keep some minorities from being able to vote, and they tried to reduce the number of voting days,” Smith explained.

    “The US Supreme Court says that will not happen.”

    The short update quickly had conservatives on Twitter convinced that Smith was out to get them — or worse, auditioning for a “liberal” network, as indicated by the posts below.

    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/he-i...e+Raw+Story%29




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    http://electionlawblog.org/wp-conten...ads/nc-4th.pdf

    After years of preclearance and expansion of voting access,
    by 2013 African American registration and turnout rates had
    finally reached near-parity with white registration and turnout
    rates. African Americans were poised to act as a major
    electoral force. But, on the day after the Supreme Court issued
    Shelby County v. Holder, 133 S. Ct. 2612 (2013), eliminating
    preclearance obligations, a leader of the party that newly
    dominated the legislature (and the party that rarely enjoyed
    African American support) announced an intention to enact what
    he characterized as an “omnibus” election law. Before enacting
    that law, the legislature requested data on the use, by race, of
    a number of voting practices. Upon receipt of the race data,
    the General Assembly enacted legislation that restricted voting
    and registration in five different ways, all of which
    disproportionately affected African Americans.

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    Justice Department Accuses Texas Of Circulating 'Misleading' Voter ID Info


    The Justice Department is accusing the state of Texas of defying a federal court order by misleading voters and poll workers about the state's voter ID law requirements in advance of November's elections.

    In a court filing Tuesday, the Justice Department asked a federal judge to order Texas to correct information it is circulating about its voter ID law, accusing the state of offering poor explanations to voters and poll workers about the updated requirements for voting, the Texas Tribune reported.


    "Voters are receiving in accurate or misleading information that suggests they will not be able to cast ballots that count in November. Limited funds are being used on inaccurate materials," the filing reads.


    The dispute over the pre-election materials is the latest development in a long-running legal battle over the Texas voter ID law. After he struck down the law earlier this year, U.S. District Judge Nelva Gonzales Ramos approved an agreement between Texas and those challenging the voter ID law to soften its restrictions for the November election.

    As part of the agreement, Ramos directed Texas to develop a program to educate poll workers and voters about the updated rules regarding voter ID.


    In its new filing, the Justice Department argued that Ramos told Texas to inform voters about "the opportunity for voters who do not possess SB 14 ID and cannot reasonably obtain it to cast a regular ballot" – but that materials printed by the state inform voters that they can cast a ballot if they "have not obtained" and "cannot obtain" a required form of photo identification.

    The filing argues that by eliminating the word "reasonably," the state "has narrowed dramatically the scope of voters protected by the Court’s order."

    The Justice Department said in the filing that it has asked Texas to change the do ents but said the state “declined to correct these materials."

    A spokesman for Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, Marc Rylander, told the Texas Tribune that the office is "currently reviewing the DOJ’s motion and will file a response by Friday."



    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckrak...+%28TPMNews%29

    slave state TX still ing the knitters and Mexicans

    Thanks, Repug SCOTUS racists, you knew gutting the VRA would screw mythical US democracy even more.



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    http://electionlawblog.org/wp-conten...ads/nc-4th.pdf

    After years of preclearance and expansion of voting access,
    by 2013 African American registration and turnout rates had
    finally reached near-parity with white registration and turnout
    rates. African Americans were poised to act as a major
    electoral force. But, on the day after the Supreme Court issued
    Shelby County v. Holder, 133 S. Ct. 2612 (2013), eliminating
    preclearance obligations, a leader of the party that newly
    dominated the legislature (and the party that rarely enjoyed
    African American support) announced an intention to enact what
    he characterized as an “omnibus” election law. Before enacting
    that law, the legislature requested data on the use, by race, of
    a number of voting practices. Upon receipt of the race data,
    the General Assembly enacted legislation that restricted voting
    and registration in five different ways, all of which
    disproportionately affected African Americans.
    Why are rank and file republicans not outraged about this?

    101a ?

    Cosmic Cowboy ?

    anyone?

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    http://electionlawblog.org/wp-conten...ads/nc-4th.pdf

    Why are rank and file republicans not outraged about this?

    101a ?

    Cosmic Cowboy ?

    anyone?
    ... because rankinfile Repugs and ST rightwingnuts are, by definition, by genetics, by party affiliation, RACISTS.

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    PREVENTING EX-CONS FROM VOTING: A CRIME AGAINST DEMOCRACY?

    The disenfranchisement of felons plays a big role in determining who votes in US elections.

    Just as with laws restricting the number of polling places, limiting early voting options, and requiring voter ID, the rules that keep felons from casting their ballot are tailored to make voting more difficult for certain demographic groups— largely minority populations.


    The Sentencing Project has found,
    “An estimated 2.6 million people are disenfranchised in states that restrict voting rights even after completion of sentence.”

    University of Pennsylvania political science professor Marie Gottschalk details how Al Gore would have won the 2000 election had Florida’s restrictive laws not kept felons from the polls.

    Similarly, the outcome of tight races for other statewide offices would have been different, had similar disenfranchisement laws been in effect in various states.


    This is not a small matter. About 2.5% of the voting age population will be barred from casting a ballot this year because of a previous criminal conviction.


    Florida and Virginia, which are once again crucial battleground states in the presidential election, have particularly restrictive rules, although Virginia’s governor recently has restored voting rights to 13,000 ex-felons.

    http://whowhatwhy.org/2016/08/27/pre...ime-democracy/


    Repugs know they can win only by cheating, counting fraud, voter suppression, voter intimidation (as Trash espouses), etc, because the Repugs adore the "freedoms" of the Cons ution.

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    http://electionlawblog.org/wp-conten...ads/nc-4th.pdf



    Why are rank and file republicans not outraged about this?

    101a ?

    Cosmic Cowboy ?

    anyone?
    Meh...looks like the system worked. A bad law was passed and the courts overruled it.

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    Lawsuit: 'Exact Match' System Negatively Impacts Georgia's Minority Voters

    Georgia's strict system for adding new voters to the rolls risks disenfranchising tens of thousands of minorities in the battleground state this fall, according to a new lawsuit by several voting rights groups.


    Since July 2013, Georgia has failed to process more than 42,000 voter registration applications because the personal information provided didn't exactly match

    existing information in state-maintained databases, lawyers for the groups said. Over 86 percent of those whose applications weren't processed were non-white, even though whites have made up nearly half of those who have sought to register during that period.

    The lawsuit, filed Wednesday in federal court, charges that the "exact match" system used by Georgia Secretary of State Brian Kemp violates the Voting Rights Act's ban on racial discrimination in voting. It asks that the state be required to stop using the system immediately, while there's still time for affected applicants to be added to the rolls.

    Georgia's strict system for adding new voters to the rolls risks disenfranchising tens of thousands of minorities in the battleground state

    this fall, according to a new lawsuit by several voting rights groups.



    "Georgia, like many
    (red, slave) states across the country, has erected another burdensome and unnecessary obstacle for those seeking to register and vote," said Kristen Clarke, president and executive director of the Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, one of the lead groups behind the suit.

    "The Secretary of State's exact-match program penalizes those seeking to register and vote because of errors contained in databases maintained by the state."

    http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elec...sm_fb_lastword



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    Meh...looks like the system worked. A bad law was passed and the courts overruled it.
    So why are you not outraged about this? Why do you let Republican leaders do this?

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    So why are you not outraged about this? Why do you let Republican leaders do this?


    I can no more control what some tools do in some state legislature than control the rotation of the earth.

    you are being ridiculous.

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    I can no more control what some tools do in some state legislature than control the rotation of the earth.

    you are being ridiculous.
    Does it bother you that he party you support actively works to disenfranchise voters?

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    Does it bother you that he party you support actively works to disenfranchise voters?
    i personally don't see a problem with asking for a valid picture ID and a voter registration, especially when they are really cheap.

    I think it's terribly condescending to assume that minority citizens aren't capable of getting one if they want one.
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    I can no more control what some tools do in some state legislature than control the rotation of the earth.

    you are being ridiculous.
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
    No, you are right. You can do nothing.

    Keep voting for the tools, and not demanding your party change. Republicans, rank and file, should be the ones screaming the loudest about this.

    The information bubble effect is destroying the long term viability of the GOP in ways like this.

    The people getting shat on, definitely get the message.

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    i personally don't see a problem with asking for a valid picture ID and a voter registration, especially when they are really cheap.

    I think it's terribly condescending to assume that minority citizens aren't capable of getting one if they want one.
    "it is easy to get a photo ID" is factually incorrect for many people.

    Getting a photo ID so you can vote is easy. Unless you’re poor, black, Latino or elderly.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...972_story.html

    Well Actually, It’s Pretty Hard for Some People to Get a Photo ID So They Can Vote
    https://rewire.news/ablc/2014/10/16/...-id-just-vote/

    This Is How Hard It Is To Get A Voter ID In Wisconsin
    https://thinkprogress.org/this-is-ho...a88#.dnftt72xd


    I can go on.

    There is no voter fraud problem that having an ID solves.


    Bad policy, and being used to DELIBERATELY target a minority, merely because of their political affiliation.

    Why have you bought into this propaganda without thinking for yourself?

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    i personally don't see a problem with asking for a valid picture ID and a voter registration, especially when they are really cheap.

    I think it's terribly condescending to assume that minority citizens aren't capable of getting one if they want one.
    We're not talking about voter ID. We're talking about a "bad law" (your words) thats intention was to suppress the cons utionally granted voting rights of a demographic that generally votes for the opposition party.

    That should be a big deal to anyone who respects the democratic process.

    My guess is your level of concern would be escalated had it been democrats attempting to suppress the rural white vote.

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    The same people requiring the IDs to vote are probably the ones making the IDs hard to get for the people who need them.

    I am by far not a conspiracy asshat, but you get no few Republican leaders who let slip exactly what the effects are.

    2016:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b0a506064d90cf
    2014:
    http://billmoyers.com/2014/10/24/voter-discrimination/
    2013:
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...ic-voters.html


    If there were actual data that voter ID prevents material, existing fraud, why have these people not presented it? IF IT EXISTED IT WOULD BE EASY TO SHOW.

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    This makes me very very mad. Sorry about the caps and so forth. I think that is better than me cussing.

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    The evidence that voter ID laws suppresses turnout is pretty clear:
    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...e-poor/254572/


    Jonathan Chait, in a smart recent New York magazine piece led "2012 or Never," offered some numbers supporting the theory. "Every year," Chait wrote, "the nonwhite proportion of the electorate grows by about half a percentage point -- meaning that in every presidential election, the minority share of the vote increases by 2 percent, a huge amount in a closely divided country." This explains, for example, why Colorado, Nevada, and Arizona are turning purple instead of staying red. "By 2020," Chait writes, "nonwhite voters should rise from a quarter of the 2008 electorate to one third. In 30 years, "nonwhites will outnumber whites."
    As a Democrat, maybe I should just let the GOP shoot itself in the foot. More Democrats would be elected.

    Personally, I don't care about that. Given some time to think, I really do think elections should be more compe ive, and a weakened GOP does not help that.

    But in the final analysis, if the GOP decides it can't compete on ideas, then maybe they deserve to lose.

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    you think you might have lost little objectivity?


    you're going in pretty deep.

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    What is the problem with producing a photo ID when voting? I need a photo ID to pick up my kids at school if they are sick or have an appointment, to get a library card, to use my health insurance at the doctor/hospital/lab/etc., to get into gated communities, to get on a plane, to open a checking/savings account.

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    What is the problem with producing a photo ID when voting? I need a photo ID to pick up my kids at school if they are sick or have an appointment, to get a library card, to use my health insurance at the doctor/hospital/lab/etc., to get into gated communities, to get on a plane, to open a checking/savings account.
    now thats funny

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    What's funny about it? Do schools just hand over kids to people with no photo ID over there? Better not live in Miami - these people here are so careful, they check your signature against emergency contact card before calling the kid to the office. If you aren't authorized, you ain't getting the kid.

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    its funny because the people you're talking about wouldn't be doing most of those things.

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