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How are all these poor people and minorities getting welfare if they don't have an ID
Jim Crow Returns: Interstate "Crosscheck" Program Could Strip Millions of the Right to Vote
Of the three million names identified by Crosscheck in the last two years, not one has been convicted of voter fraud. But Virginia, another state using Crosscheck, has already struck more than 41,000 voters off the rolls, admitting that some of them may have moved out of state. Other states, like North Carolina, have been reaching out to voters on the Crosscheck list by mail. Those who fail to confirm their iden y will be denied the right to vote on Election Day.
Journalist Greg Palast obtained a list of more than 500,000 people whose eligibility is in question due to Crosscheck. He found one of them in this apartment building said to be housing up to 10 double voters.
Palast and his team did a statistical analysis on more than two million names on the Crosscheck list. Their projections found names like Jackson, Washington, Garcia and Kim are overrepresented. According to the U.S. Census Bureau, 53 percent of all Jacksons and 90 percent of Washingtons are African-American; 91 percent of all Garcias are Hispanic; and 94 percent of all Kims are Asian.
It’s high-risk and almost no reward. I mean, the risk for engaging in voter fraud is criminal prosecution. What’s the reward? What does it take—how many imaginary voters or double voters do you have to create in order to actually sway an election? So, the rewards are almost—are zero. And the risks are very high. And so, this whole idea is fantastical.
http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/2...-right-to-vote
"fantastical" is how the Repugs create their own America-destructive fantasy world.
How are all these poor people and minorities getting welfare if they don't have an ID
Laura Ingraham: If ID laws make voting ‘too difficult’ for some people, ‘then good’
according to the Brennan Center for Justice, many eligible voters have not obtained photo identification, and it’s not because they “can’t be bothered” to fill out the paperwork.
In fact, the nearest state ID office for 10 million or more voters is only open two days a week, and it’s more than 10 miles away. And 500,000 of those voters, do not even own a vehicle.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/11/l...e+Raw+Story%29
there's a reason voter ID laws have never been common in this country until this century. can you think of why that might be?
There goes bou... ting on 300 years of liberal philosophy in one post.
ter McGee
try taking your "rights philosophy" to court, try to use it maintain your privacy, or "right" to remain silent, right to assemble, right to vote (if you were a American women in the 19th century), right to freedom (if you were a slave), etc. your airy-fairy philosophy doesn't mean in practice
actually, as long as people fight for it and courts enforce it, it does mean .
the REPUG SCOTUS5 gutted the VRA, denying Ms the right to vote(they wrong color skin, not Euro-Americans).
Who ya gonna fight?
I've repeat, NSA/FBI/CIA, the Deep State, violating our privacy, beyond civilian control. "super cookies" violate our right not to be tracked. who ya gonna fight?
The courts, appointed by state, by corporate-owned legislators, and/or elected by corporate $Ms, in general support the state's case, support the corporate case, not citizens' case.
who ya gonna fight?
your vision of politics is everyone cringing before corporate domination.
that.
power isn't everything; without people, it's nothing.
yet the dead resurrect like the day Christ gave up his ghost on Calvary just to pull the lever for the dems.
So awnser the question. Why do they need id to mooch, but not when voting our rights away is up for a vote?
democracy is just tyranny of the proles.
That kind of fraud is not solved by voter ID. It is gullible dip s like you that can't tell between types of fraud that the cynical s running a lot of state Republican party leadership counts on.
Congratulations, you are a useful idiot.
Why are we one of the few (if not the only) developed country that doesn't universally require a photo ID to vote?
Why would you not require ID? That doesn't make any sense.
Y u so angry. I guess all regulations dont prevent fraud or malice. We should just go laissez faire. I can get with that.
The overall cost outweighs the benefit.
If there is no benefit, but a fair amount of cost, does it make sense to have a law about it?
Or:
Why have a law that solves a problem that doesn't exist?
That doesn't make any sense.
Why are we one of the few (if not the only) developed country that doesn't universally offer health insurance to all it's citizens?
I noticed you neatly sidestepped trying to prove that voter ID laws actually solve a problem that exists in the real world. Why is that?
What makes me angry is that voter ID laws are pure partisan dirty tricks, and the ultimate cost is that some of our most vulnerable citizens who have the most at stake in our society will stop voting.
Does denying people the ability to vote not piss you off, even a little?
What do you think the overall cost is? Personally I don't think the cost outweighs the benefit. You say the problem doesn't exist. I say a "potential" problem does exist.
It's not denying anything. The cost of acquiring ID is very low in my opinion.
Depends on who you are and what your cir stances are.
Given the large numbers of elderly and even more recent poor people born in their parents homes in the countryside, outside of hospitals before 1950, it wouldn't take much time/effort to dissuade some from bothering with it.
Again, I'm not against the idea, the big thing is that I have yet to see anybody prove to any reasonable degree that there is some sort of in-person voter fraud problem to solve.
Can you show me any?
If there is no problem to solve, why have a law against it?
Prove it.
Links.
Data.
Hopefully some peer reviewed papers, but hey, I will take a credible report on % of fraudulent in-person votes cast.
I bet you he understands the slippery slope argument. This might not matter but it encourages further behavior to disenfranchise voters if it is allowed. GOP types use that argument for their base all the time.
I would ask for the same regarding the problem of getting ID.
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