Romney: Obama voters don't pay income taxes

[coyotes_geek]

I've got a lock on a new product. All aboard!

Energy independence! Middle east, GFY!!!

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5 Most Ridiculously Offensive Quotes From Ann Romney

1. What, Me Rich?

“We can be poor in spirit, and I don’t even consider myself wealthy, which is an interesting thing,” said Ann Romney to Fox News [3]. "It can be here today and gone tomorrow."

Hmm. Interesting indeed, considering that her husband is worth about $200 million. If elected, he would be among the richest presidents ever to occupy the White House, topping both the Roosevelts and the Bushes [4], who were no slouches. In fact, he’s wealthier than the last eight presidents combined.

Ann Romney’s favorite fancy dressage horse, Rafalca, costs more to feed and shelter [5] than your whole family. How wealthy does that make you feel?

2. It’s Great That Some Women Don’t Have a Choice

Back in April, Ann Romney spoke to the Connecticut Republican Party’s Prescott Bush Awards Dinner in Stamford, where she waxed personal on the rigors of raising kids while Mitt was off destroying jobs.

Mrs. Romney said she likes to see what women are up to on the campaign trail, asking “Why are you here? What made you come out of your house today to this event? And what do you think about the future?”

Not all women have the luxury of staying at home, she conceded: “I love the fact that there are women out there who don’t have a choice and they must go to work and they still have to raise the kids. Thank goodness that we value those people too. And sometimes life isn’t easy for any of us.”

If you’re one those people, you can wrap yourself in Ann Romney love while you ponder why her horse gets a $77,000 tax credit [6] when your kid gets $1,000.

3. College, Wall Street-Style

When newlyweds Ann and Mitt Romney were living together while attending Brigham Young, things were pretty swell. "We were happy, studying hard,” Romney said in an infamous Boston Globe interview back in 1994 [7], when Mittens was running for the senate. “Neither one of us had a job, because Mitt had enough of an investment from stock that we could sell off a little at a time,” she explained.

How awesome is that?!? The stock came courtesy of Mitt's papa, who had invested Mitt’s “birthday money” every year. Ann looks back fondly on this time as a period when she and Mitt were really roughing it. For realz.

4. Unzip Mitt

In an interview with a Baltimore radio station, Ann Romney pressed the audience [8] to believe that despite her husband’s stiff demeanor and penchant for human and canine bullying, Mitt was really full of chuckles. She opined that “we better unzip him and let the real Mitt Romney out.”

Stiff or not stiff? We’re not sure we want to unzip Mr. Romney to find out.

5. Enough of You People

You people. You’re always asking annoying questions and daring to insinuate that there’s something wrong with all those Romney tax havens and offshore accounts.

Why don’t you stick to clipping coupons or whatever it is you people do to stay busy?

In an interview with ABC’s "Good Morning America [9]" that quickly went viral, Mrs. Romney got huffy when asked why American voters would not be vouchsafed a look at Mitt’s latest tax returns.

“We’ve given all you people need to know,” she sniffed.

http://www.alternet.org/print/electi...tes-ann-romney

[CosmicCowboy]

Overall, the top 400 paid an average income tax rate of 19.9 percent, the same rate paid by a single worker who made $110,000 in 2009. The top 400 earned five times that much every day.

So if they made 200 million and paid 19.9% in taxes that means that taxpayer paid almost 40 million in taxes. ing greedy cheater!

[mavs>spurs]

If you can, good for you.

crofl yeah i took portfolio management this summer while the market was in the gutter and still managed to come out with a 2.5% return over a 1.5 month period..which if you annualize that is about 20% return yearly which i didn't think was bad for my first try, especially considering the market was down several % over that same period. interactive broker has a pretty good trading program with tools you can use, and they offer a free trial where you can test the market in real time but with fake money before adding your own cash. i just pretty much trade on the news, but also use a combination of fundamental and technical analysis as well. just looked for over and underreactions to market news and respond accordingly.

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So if they made 200 million and paid 19.9% in taxes that means that taxpayer paid almost 40 million in taxes. ing greedy cheater!

asshole, the typical 1%er bull , taking the absolute number rather than the percentage of the total. Try to do better next time.

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A Letter from Ann Romney

Dear Fellow-Republican,

I’m not a happy camper.

Over the past few days, some so-called Republicans have taken it upon themselves to lob some pretty harsh words in the direction of my husband. Now, it’s one thing when Mitt gets criticized by the forty-seven per cent of Americans who are parasites sucking at capitalism’s teat. But when former Reagan speechwriter Peggy Noonan calls his campaign “a rolling calamity,” it’s time for Ann Romney to kick some ass.

Which brings me to you. This is not a fundraising appeal. Lord knows this campaign has all the money it needs, especially since Mitt went to Vegas and promised Sheldon Adelson he’d bomb Tehran on Day One. As Mitt’s wife, I’m asking you to pledge something far more valuable:

Your silence.

By signing the pledge form below, you become an official member of Ann Romney’s Circle of Silence, an élite tier of the Romney for President Campaign. As a member of the C.O.S., you will receive priority ticketing to the Inauguration, as well as a collectible “Loose Lips Sink Mitt” ball gag. All you have to do is shut the freak up until Election Day.

That’s right, for the next forty-six days, I’m asking you to bite your tongue every time Mitt says or does something idiotic. If you think that sounds difficult, welcome to my world.

And Peggy Noonan, if you’re reading this: you want a piece of Ann Romney? Then get in the ring, girlfriend, and I’ll mess you up good.

Vote for Mitt,

Ann


Read more http://www.newyorker.com/online/blog...#ixzz278DcsDCW

[TeyshaBlue]

The in bot has gone nuts.

[Th'Pusher]

So if they made 200 million and paid 19.9% in taxes that means that taxpayer paid almost 40 million in taxes. ing greedy cheater!

Leaving them only $160M while the guy making 110k is left with 89k. Tell me, which of the two is more likely to spend a greater share of that income? Which one is the job creator?

[SnakeBoy]

asshole, the typical 1%er bull , taking the absolute number rather than the percentage of the total. Try to do better next time.

You commonly mix tax rate % with effective tax rate % to make it seem as though median income folks are paying more than people like Romney.

[TeyshaBlue]

It's likely the 110k guy will spend all of his income.

The 160M guy, not so much.

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The in bot has gone nuts.

TB

[Wild Cobra]

lol. I sure as wouldn't be here if I did.

Where would you be then?

ElitistTalk dot com?

[TeyshaBlue]

Where would you be then?

ElitistTalk dot com?

s yeah with my flask of chilled blood of peasant children.

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You commonly mix tax rate % with effective tax rate % to make it seem as though median income folks are paying more than people like Romney.

"paying more" in %age or more in $$ volume?

[Wild Cobra]

He said 47% rely on the government, didn't he? It wasn't paying no taxes alone, but in the form of food stamps as well. I'll bet he also meant things like Pell grants.

The 47% number does coincide with the 47% who pay no federal income tax, but I think that wasn't intended as I think about this.

[mavs>spurs]

"paying more" in %age or more in $$ volume?

romney pays more taxes than you both in percentage and volume. i guess you missed the article, he's averaged 20% effective rate over the past 20 years. you gonna change your vote now? you must be butt-devastated.

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He said 47% rely on the government, didn't he? It wasn't paying no taxes alone, but in the form of food stamps as well. I'll bet he also meant things like Pell grants.

The 47% number does coincide with the 47% who pay no federal income tax, but I think that wasn't intended as I think about this.

"47% rely on the government, didn't he?"

in his mouth, it's a lie, as serious people have pointed out.

Does he have any hard evidence, research to back up that 47%, or is just WC taking/supporting it in blind faith.

And of course, he didn't say how many $100Bs the Fortune 500 pocket in tax expenditures and fat govt contracts, nor that large corps create "small" subsidiaries to steal govt contracts and loans targeted at truly small businesses, of which he claims to be a champion.

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his taped talk and all his other gaffes and mistakes are causing him all kinds of troubles with other Repugs.

Sniping from within GOP adds to Romney's struggles

Mitt Romney struggled to steady his presidential campaign on Friday, buffeted by an outbreak of sniping among frustrated Republicans, fresh evidence of a slide in battleground state polls and President Barack Obama's accusation that he was writing off "half the country" in pursuit of the White House.

Republican running mate Paul Ryan drew boos at an AARP convention in New Orleans when he said Romney would repeal Obama's health care law, which closed a gap in coverage for seniors' prescription drugs. The Wisconsin congressman accused the administration of weakening Medicare and flinching from tough measures needed to stabilize Social Security's finances, adding that the president has "put his own job security over your retirement security."

Obama rebutted Ryan's charges point by point in a video appearance to the same audience. He said the Republican prescription for Medicare would mean "billions in new profits for insurance companies" and replacing guaranteed benefits with a voucher that would bring higher out of pocket costs for seniors.

Romney campaigned in Nevada as aides released a 2011 federal income tax return showing he and his wife, Ann, paid $1.94 million in federal taxes last year on income of $13.7 million. Their effective tax rate was 14.1 per cent, lower than many families pay because most of the couple's earnings come from investments.

The campaign also released a letter from Romney's doctor saying the 65-year-old former Massachusetts governor is healthy and physically up to the demands of the presidency.

Republicans tried to yank the campaign focus back to the economy.

"While President Obama and Democrats will try to distract voters, Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan are focused on fixing the economy, getting Americans back to work and ensuring a better future for our children and grandchildren," Sen. John McCain, the Republicans' 2008 presidential candidate, said in a statement.

In an interview taped for broadcast Sunday on CBS' "60 Minutes," Romney said of his campaign: "It doesn't need a turnaround. We've got a campaign which is tied with an in bent president to the United States."

But there seemed no letup in the bad political news for Romney, hit by a barrage of it since he was seen on videotape saying that his job as a candidate is not to worry about the 47 percent of Americans whom he said pay no income taxes and see themselves as victims.

Obama, for sure, was eager to keep the controversy alive. Campaigning in Woodbridge, Va., he defended himself against Romney's jabs at his own statement that change is impossible from the inside in Washington. "It can't happen if you write off half the nation before you even took office," he said.

He also drew laughter and applause from his audience when he mocked his rival. "He stood up at a rally, proudly declared, 'I'll get the job done from the inside.' What kind of inside job is he talking about? Is it the job of rubberstamping the top-down, you're-on-your-own agenda of this Republican Congress? Because if it is, we don't want it."

According to Wall Street Journal/NBC News/Marist Poll surveys, the president has opened leads among likely voters of eight percentage points in Iowa, with 6 electoral votes, and margins of five percentage points each in Colorado (9 electoral votes) and Wisconsin (10.)

Earlier surveys published this week pointed to leads for Obama in both Virginia, with 13 electoral votes, and Ohio, with 18.

National polls have been far closer, including an AP-GfK survey this week that had it a statistical tie among likely voters. They have also suggested progress for Obama in terms of his handling of the economy, the No. 1 issue in the race.

Despite Romney's difficulties, recent soundings on employment have not been encouraging for the president's re-election. Newly released figures show joblessness ticked up in five swing states in August, fell in two and was unchanged in two others.

Romney's allies also point to a series of presidential debates beginning Oct. 3 as a chance to shake up the race.

But for now, Romney's troubles have sent shudders down ballot, where Republicans are in tough races that will settle the outcome for the struggle for control of the Senate this fall. Tommy Thompson, dropping in the polls in Wisconsin, said "the presidential thing is bound to have an impact on every election."

That produced a quick retort from John Sununu, a top Romney surrogate. "My good friend Tommy Thompson sounds like Barack Obama, blaming it on somebody else," he said on CNN.

But Thompson wasn't alone. Rep. Rick Berg, running for the Senate in a closer-than-expected race in North Dakota, became the latest in a string of Republican candidates to say they disagreed with Romney's 47 percent remarks.

Apart from his self-inflicted political wounds, Romney has been under pressure from fellow Republicans to draw clearer distinctions with Obama on the economy, and say more clearly what he would do to bring down the nation's 8.1 percent unemployment rate.

Asked to point to new policy proposals that Romney has made since early August, aides referred to one speech on energy independence and a set of remarks on veterans.

But he has generally been unwilling to flesh out his plans for balancing the budget or enacting tax reform, refusing, for example, to name a tax break he would eliminate except for a small one that subsidizes producers of wind power.

He criticized Obama's handling of anti-American demonstrations around U.S. embassies in the Middle East earlier in the month, but declined to say what approach he would have taken instead. And while he has repeatedly tagged Obama for not being more forceful in trying to arrange the downfall of Syrian President Bashar Assad, aides have refused for nearly a month to say whether the Republican challenger supports arming rebels fighting the regime.

Ryan provided no new policy details in his appearance before the AARP, although he renewed Romney's support for a gradual increase in the Social Security retirement age and slowing the growth of benefits for those at higher incomes. Republicans have yet to provide details.

He told seniors that Republicans "respect you enough to level with you," and said Obama's health care legislation had cut $716 billion out of Medicare over a decade and set up a board of unelected bureaucrats with authority to make future reductions so severe they could eventually jeopardize seniors' access to medical care.

"You know President Obama's slogan, right? Forward." he said, then added, mockingly, "Forward into a future where seniors are denied the care they earned because a bureaucrat decided it wasn't worth the money."

Obama answered via video hookup and a television commercial that began airing in Florida, Colorado and Iowa. It argued that under the Republican plan, seniors' health costs could go up by $6,400 a year.

Obama has said he would consider raising payroll taxes on upper-income wage earners to shore up the trust fund that pays for Social Security benefits. Workers currently pay a 4.2 percent tax on income up to $110,100 annually, although the rate is scheduled to revert to a previous 6.2 percent at the first of the year.

http://mobile.sfgate.com/sfchron/db_...l=true#display

[Mikesatx]

He is already paying more in volume. Do you think he should also pay more in %? Do you realize that one of the most common techniques for reducing tax liablility is by annual gifting. When he and Ann die based on what the estate tax rates will adjust to in 2013 is 55% of everything over 2 million.

Now assume he doesn't invest and pays an effective tax rate 20%. Over his lifetime he earns 250 million and spends 30% over his lifetime:

Income Tax $50,000,000
Sales and/or State Tax $4,500,000
Estate Tax $67,650,000

Total Taxes $122,150,000

A little less than half the guys income gone to taxes. Is that Fair?

That still remains the question no one has answered or volunteered an opinion. At what amount would you change your tune and say that isn't fair?

[mavs>spurs]

thread le should be "romney pays more taxes than obama voters"

[MannyIsGod]

Thread le should actually be M>S shows how little he knows in his chosen field, again, TBH

[mavs>spurs]

stupid throwaway line

[MannyIsGod]

stupid throwaway line

And yet you responded, right?

[mavs>spurs]

you're not very good at this

[MannyIsGod]

you're not very good at this

I'm pretty awesome at getting under your skin, TBH. Not that its hard though.