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    lol..it's unsurprising you can't see grey.

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    It's unsurprising that you have nothing but sterile academic debates about trivial .
    you lack versatility, in other words.

    gross oversimplification and endless repe ion of the same five or ten cliches?

    no thanks.

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    you lack in versatility, in other words.

    gross oversimplification and endless repe ion of the same five or ten cliches?

    no thanks.
    gfy. Instead of your inane sterile academic debates over minutiae, I, otoh, see the bigger, important picture and the few themes, big strategies that guide what's going on and what will be going on.

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    gfy. I am unable to generate a single, original cogent thought. I can cut and paste tho!

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    you lack versatility, in other words.

    gross oversimplification and endless repe ion of the same five or ten cliches?

    no thanks.

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    gfy. Instead of your inane sterile academic debates over minutiae
    Such as?

    I, otoh, see the bigger, important picture and the few themes, big strategies that guide what's going on and what will be going on.
    So why then do you chose to repeat the same Team Blue cliches over and over again? Someone who saw the bigger picture of what's going on would never say stupid like "Clinton didn't bomb Iraq" or "let's nationalize the banks," B....

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    I was giving this some more thought and I think this will play larger than I originally gave it credit for.

    Mitt's tone is just about as out of touch as I've ever seen a presidential candidate. The part about people refusing to take personal responsibility is delivered in the way someone talks about a pest infestation. Its not a mindset about how can I help this part of America but its more bout how to best overcome the hurdle of which that part of America represents. I think this is going to be a big factor from here on out because I think this was exactly who Romney is and I think thats going to continue to come through.

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    And today he backtracked by mentioning legit moochers like old people and military vets.

    But of course he didn't mention the key Repug/conservative/Randian targets of black and brown moochers.

    Gecko would certainly not be President of and for all America.

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    I was giving this some more thought and I think this will play larger than I originally gave it credit for.

    Mitt's tone is just about as out of touch as I've ever seen a presidential candidate. The part about people refusing to take personal responsibility is delivered in the way someone talks about a pest infestation. Its not a mindset about how can I help this part of America but its more bout how to best overcome the hurdle of which that part of America represents. I think this is going to be a big factor from here on out because I think this was exactly who Romney is and I think thats going to continue to come through.
    I tend to agree. It's a built-in talking point for the Obama campaign and just rock hard stupid to boot.

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    Even after all the Gecko Gaffes (c), silly, desperate Repugs think this inarticulate NoWhereMan is gonna whip Barry's ass in the debate(s) and win the the Presidency.

    btw, Honey Boo Boo got a bigger audience that Gecko's convention speech.

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    Even after all the Gecko Gaffes (c), silly, desperate Repugs think this inarticulate NoWhereMan is gonna whip Barry's ass in the debate(s) and win the the Presidency.

    btw, Honey Boo Boo got a bigger audience that Gecko's convention speech.
    LMAO at you having the audacity to call other people liars.

    Honey Boo Boo -----3 million
    Romney Speech-----25.28 Million

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    David Brooks blames the Romney 47% comments on maladroitness: the awkward mis-expression of a man pretending to be something he's not.


    Likely so.


    But they also reveal that Romney has been reshaped by this campaign. The dread to which Romney gives voice in his Boca Raton speech - that "makers" are about to be electorally overwhelmed by "takers" - is a dread expressed again and again by conservative media and conservative thought-leaders. "Democracy is two lions and a lamb voting on what's for dinner": how often have we heard that old country-club quip repeated these past four years? Only this time, the quip is repeated not as a joke, but with real fear.


    The background to so much of the politics of the past four years is the mood of apocalyptic terror that has gripped so much of the American upper class.


    Hucksters of all kinds have battened on this terror. They tell them that free enterprise is under attack; that Obama is a socialist, a Marxist, a fascist, an anti-colonialist. Only by donating to my think tank, buying my book, watching my network, going to my movie, can you - can we - stop him before he seizes everything to give to his base of "bums," as Charles Murray memorably called them.


    And what makes it all both so heart-rending and so outrageous is that all this is occurring at a time when economically disadvantaged Americans have never been so demoralized and passive, never exerted less political clout. No Coxey's army is marching on Washington, no sit-down strikes are paralyzing factories, no squatters are moving onto farmer's fields. Occupy Wall Street immediately fizzled, there is no protest party of the political left.


    The only radical mass movement in this country is the Tea Party, a movement to defend the interests of elderly in bent beneficiaries of the existing welfare state. Against that movement is a government of liberal technocrats dependent on campaign donations from a different faction of the American super-rich than that which backs Mitt Romney himself.


    From the greatest crisis of capitalism since the 1930s, the rights and perquisites of wealth have emerged undiminished - and the central issue in this election is whether those rights and perquisites shall be enhanced still more, or whether they should be allowed to slip back to the level that prevailed during the dot.com boom.


    Yet even so, the rich and the old are scared witless! Watch the trailer of Dinesh D'Souza's new movie to glimpse into their mental universe: chanting swarthy mobs, churches and banks under attack, angry black people grabbing at other people's houses.


    It's all a scam, but it's a spectacularly effective scam. Mitt Romney tried to make use of the scam, and now instead has fallen victim to it himself.
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...y-s-gaffe.html

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    Thank goodness that Romney clarified that I wasn't a moocher. I was really worried for a second.

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    The 1%, predominantly Euro-Americans, deeply resent demographic (voters) threat from the growing propulations of Afro-Americans and Indian-Americans (aka Hispanics). That's why voter disenfranchisement and intimidation (show your papers) of those populations is critical to Repug electoral chances.

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    LMAO at you having the audacity to call other people liars.

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    Did you think I meant NUMERICALLY "bigger"?

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    The End Of WASP-Dominated Politics

    Fifty years ago, the military, foreign service and top political offices were all dominated by WASPs — white, Anglo-Saxon Protestants.

    "The minimal but unrelenting qualification was to be white, Anglo-Saxon in heritage and Protestant in religion," the cultural critic Joseph Epstein writes in his book Snobbery. "If one was Catholic, or surely Irish Catholic, or Jewish, forget about it; if one was black, don't even think about it."

    Because of the country's changing population and shifts in educational opportunities, none of that is true anymore.

    "Not a single group can hold onto power in any particular ins ution going forward," says Guy-Uriel Charles, founding director of the Duke Law Center on Law, Race and Politics. "This reflects the fact that we are much more of an open society than we were previously, but we are also a society that by the numbers is increasingly diverse."

    None of this would have seemed possible a half-century ago. Back then, Protestants composed three-quarters of the academic, military and business elites, according to contemporary academic studies.

    The rules were so rigid that Barry Goldwater, the Arizona senator and 1964 GOP presidential nominee, wasn't allowed to play golf at a club outside Washington that was literally exclusive.

    "I'm only half Jewish, so can't I play nine holes?"

    "Franklin Roosevelt appointed more Catholics and Jews to his presidency than all previous presidents combined," says Andrew Preston, a Cambridge University historian.

    The '60s Changed Everything

    http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolit...s?sc=17&f=1001

    That's why the VRWC/1% Euro-Americans absolutely HATE FDR and the '60s, and government.

    Government allowed and legalized ins utions, laws, regulations that broke the E-As grip on power.

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    Did you think I meant NUMERICALLY "bigger"?

    I didn't THINK it, you WROTE it.


    btw, Honey Boo Boo got a bigger audience that Gecko's convention speech.

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    I didn't THINK it, you WROTE it.
    Honey Boo Boo bigger!

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    Part of the reason so many Americans don’t pay federal income taxes is that Republicans have passed a series of very large tax cuts that wiped out the income-tax liability for many Americans. That’s why, when you look at graphs of the percent of Americans who don’t pay income taxes, you see huge jumps after Ronald Reagan’s 1986 tax reform and George W. Bush’s 2001 and 2003 tax cuts. So whenever you hear that half of Americans don’t pay federal income taxes, remember: Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush helped build that. (You also see a jump after the financial crisis begins in 2008, but we can expect that to be mostly temporary.)
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...hy-it-matters/

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    So notice what happened here: Republicans have become outraged over the predictable effect of tax cuts they passed and are using that outrage as the justification for an agenda that further cuts taxes on the rich and pays for it by cutting social services for the non-rich.
    same

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    (Republican presidents/Democratic Congresses)

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    Remember, rich people need their taxes cut so they can contribute to the economy, but normal middle class and poor folk need to pay taxes so they have "skin in the game".

    Makes total sense.

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    Don't worry about these people.

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