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Voter fraud is a problem of infinitessimal proportions. Voter ID laws prevent more legit votes than fraudulent ones.
It isn't even close.
which never happens and an ID wouldn't prevent if it did
Voter fraud is a problem of infinitessimal proportions. Voter ID laws prevent more legit votes than fraudulent ones.
It isn't even close.
Voter ID laws are pure voter suppression.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-ballots-cast/
Blah blah blah...
Says the indoctrinated liberal
LOL you're the dual of boutons, who accuses everyone of being a right winger.
... only assholes who espouse rightwing policies
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...ts-law/493649/The Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals struck down key portions of North Carolina’s strict 2013 voting law on Friday, delivering a stern rebuke to the state’s Republican General Assembly and Governor Pat McCrory. The three-judge panel in Richmond, Virginia, unanimously concluded that the law was racially discriminatory, and it blocked a requirement that voters show photo identification to vote and restored same-day voter registration, a week of early voting, pre-registration for teenagers, and out-of-precinct voting.
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“In what comes as close to a smoking gun as we are likely to see in modern times, the State’s very justification for a challenged statute hinges explicitly on race—specifically its concern that African Americans, who had overwhelmingly voted for Democrats, had too much access to the franchise,” wrote Judge Diana Gribbon Motz.
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“In North Carolina, restriction of voting mechanisms and procedures that most heavily affect African Americans will predictably redound to the benefit of one political party and to the disadvantage of the other,” Motz wrote. “As the evidence in the record makes clear, that is what happened here.”
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“Before enacting that law, the legislature requested data on the use, by race, of a number of voting practices. Upon receipt of the race data, the General Assembly enacted legislation that restricted voting and registration in five different ways, all of which disproportionately affected African Americans,” Motz wrote. “Although the new provisions target African Americans with almost surgical precision, they cons ute inapt remedies for the problems assertedly justifying them and, in fact, impose cures for problems that did not exist.”
They should invoke their Cons utional rights that black votes only count 3/5ths.
When you don't have arguments, attack the messenger...
worried about electoral fraud?
pay more attention to the security of voting machines.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/sto...#ixzz4GiD6ZjbSThe revelation this month that a cyberattack on the DNC is the handiwork of Russian state security personnel has set off alarm bells across the country: Some officials have suggested that 2016 could see more serious efforts to interfere directly with the American election. The DNC hack, in a way, has compelled the public to ask the precise question the Princeton group hoped they’d have asked earlier, back when they were turning voting machines into arcade games: If motivated programmers could pull a stunt like this, couldn't they tinker with the results in November through the machines we use to vote?
This week, the notion has been transformed from an implausible plotline in a Philip K. novel into a deadly serious threat, outlined in detail by a raft of government security officials. “This isn’t a crazy hypothetical anymore,” says Dan Wallach, one of the Felten-Appel alums and now a computer science professor at Rice. “Once you bring nation states’ cyber activity into the game?” He snorts with pity. “These machines, they barely work in a friendly environment.”
The powers that be seem duly convinced. Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson recently conceded the “longer-term investments we need to make in the cybersecurity of our election process.” A statement by 31 security luminaries at the Aspen Ins ute issued a public statement: “Our electoral process could be a target for reckless foreign governments and terrorist groups.” Declared Wired: “America’s Electronic Voting Machines Are Scarily Easy Targets.”
For the Princeton group, it’s precisely the alarm it has been trying to sound for most of the new millennium. “Look, we could see 15 years ago that this would be perfectly possible,” Appel tells me, speaking in subdued, clipped tones. “It’s well within the capabilities of a country as sophisticated as Russia.” He pauses for a moment, as if to consider this. “Actually, it’s well within the capabilities of much less well-funded and sophisticated attackers.”
The Princeton group has a simple message: That the machines that Americans use at the polls are less secure than the iPhones they use to navigate their way there. They’ve seen the skeletons of code inside electronic voting’s digital closet, and they’ve mastered the equipment’s vulnerabilities perhaps better than anyone (a contention the voting machine companies contest, of course). They insist the elections could be vulnerable at myriad strike points, among them the software that aggregates the precinct vote totals, and the voter registration rolls that are increasingly digitized. But the threat, the cyber experts say, starts with the machines that tally the votes and crucially keep a record of them—or, in some cases, don't.
Since their peak around 2007, voting districts have begun to rely less on the digital voting machines—a step in the right direction, as states bolt for the door on what the programmers describe as a bungled, $4 billion experiment. Instead, rushing to install paper backups, sell off the machines and replace them with optical scanners—in some cases, ban them permanently for posterity. But the big picture, like everything in this insular world, is complicated. As the number of machines dwindle—occasioned by aging equipment, vintage-era software that now lacks tech support, years without new study by the computer scientists, and a public sense that the risk has passed—the opportunities for interference may temporarily e. Hundreds of digital-only precincts still remain, a significant portion of them in swing states that will decided the presidency in November. And, as the Princeton group warns, they become less secure with each passing year.
... and the courts agree with you.
Actually they have more than one Republican official pretty much admitting the only reason they pass these laws is to suppress votes.
Is that the way you think elections should be won? By whichever party can cram through laws that can keep the other party's voters from legitimately casting ballots?
Hillary Clinton’s Push For Universal Automatic Voter Registration Could Kill The GOP
Hillary Clinton isn't settling for restoring the Voting Rights Act.
The Democratic nominee has a plan to automatically and universally register voters that would kill the Republican Party.
Universal automatic voter registration means that every American would be automatically registered to vote when they turn age 18. If a person does not want to be registered to vote, they can opt out. It doesn’t mean that voting is mandatory, or that voters have to stay registered.What universal automatic voter registration would do is that it would immediately increase turnout for elections.
Ever since demographic trends have been moving against them, Republicans have decided that their key to victory is to make the electorate smaller.
In an attempt to hide their true motives, they’ve cooked up imaginary voter fraud as an excuse for voter suppression laws.
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/08/...iticus+USA+%29
Last edited by boutons_deux; 08-08-2016 at 11:29 AM.
lets be honest. some think their vote should be valued over other voters.
honestly, the Repugs think Ms of people should be denied the vote completely.
voter ID laws took aim at a gnat with a bazooka... and missed.
https://www.texastribune.org/2016/08...voter-imperso/A News21 analysis four years ago of 2,068 alleged election-fraud cases in 50 states found that while some fraud had occurred since 2000, the rate was infinitesimal compared with the 146 million registered voters in that 12-year span. The analysis found only 10 cases of voter impersonation, the only kind of fraud that could be prevented by voter ID at the polls.
This year, News21 reviewed cases in Arizona, Ohio, Georgia, Texas and Kansas, where politicians have expressed concern about voter fraud, and found hundreds of allegations but few prosecutions between 2012 and 2016. Attorneys general in those states successfully prosecuted 38 cases, though other cases may have been litigated at the county level. At least one-third of those cases involved nonvoters, such as elections officials or volunteers. None of the cases prosecuted was for voter impersonation.
http://www.battlegroundtexas.com/wha...-to-the-polls/The state of Texas has made it easier for more Texans to vote in this election by expanding the types of identification that a voter can present at the polls!
If you don’t have a photo ID (reminder of the accepted forms of photo ID here), you’ll just need to fill out a short form stating the reason why you haven’t been able to get one and swearing that you are who you say you are.
Then you can present any government do ent that lists your name and address. A copy of the do ent will do, unless it has a photo, in which case be sure to bring the original. Poll workers cannot question or challenge you regarding your lack of a photo ID.
If you don’t have a photo ID, bring one of these do ents to the polls:
- Voter registration certificate (the card mailed to you shortly after you register to vote)
- Certified birth certificate (original)
- Current utility bill (copy or original)
- Bank statement (copy or original)
- Government check (copy or original)
- Paycheck (copy or original)
Election poll workers are prohibited by law from challenging your reason for being unable to obtain a photo ID. If you experience any issues at the polls, call our Voter Protection Hotline at 1-844-TXVOTES, and we can help.
Voters with a disability may apply with the county voter registrar for a permanent exemption to showing ID at the polls.
for security, paper ballots counted in public, beat all
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ots-are-safestDon’t listen to lobbyists for vendors pushing unnecessarily fancy and expensive voting equipment. Go back to paper ballots. Buy cheap used scanners to read them. Get it done now. “The Department of Homeland Security has said it. Every cyber expert says it,” she says. Voting machines like Georgia’s “are a national security risk.”
Massive voter fraud in Florida and Ohio
when was that?
Current Florida voter file received this past Saturday:
7,001 people born between 1900 to 1916
516 born 1900 to 1908
80 born 1900-1903
Plus 16 from 1886 to 1899
link?
are those active voters, or dead people who haven't been removed from the rolls?
It was from a data specialist that independently audits voter rolls.
Active voters.
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