RGIII and Russell Wilson

[Avante]

Anyone still think blacks can't play QB in the NFL? Imagine those two a few years from now, once they get some experience. Cam Newton did things last season no rookie had ever done.

What we do know for sure, whites can't play cornerback and very few at running back.

As of right now....

Russell Wilson 63.5 comp% 19td/8int 95.2 rating
Andrew Luck 55.5% 17/16 76.1

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Big time backs like Alfred Morris out of RinkyDinky State is nothing new in the NFL.

All 1000 yard rushers. *** Hall of Fame

Chris Johnson..East Carolina
Chris Warren...Furman
Fred Jackson...Coe
Walter Payton...Jackson State***
Joe "The Jet" Perry...Compton JC***/first Niner 1000yder
Mercury Morris...West Texas State
Abner Haynes...North Texas State/first Chief 1000yder
Bass...UOP/first Ram 1000er
Joe Delaney...NWLa/as a rookie, if he hadn't drown...??? A 9.4 sprinter.
Clem Daneils...Prairie View/first Raider 1000yder
Willie Ellison...Texas Southern
DeAngelo Williams...Memphis
J.D. Smith...NCA&T
Stump Mitc ...The Citadel
Leroy Kelly...Morgan State***
Cookie Gilchrist..no college/first AFLer & Bills 1000er
Icky Woods...UNLV
Don Woods...New Mexico/was a college QB, over a 1000 his rookie season.
Terdell Middleton...Memphis State

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Tons of great receivers out of non BCS conferences

Jerry Rice....Mississippi Valley State***
Terrell Owens...Chattanooga*** (to be)
Randy Moss..Marshall*** (to be)
Isacc Bruce...Memphis
Otis Taylor...Prairie View
Jimmy Smith...Jackson State
John Stallworth...Alabama A&M***
Bob Hayes...Florida A&M***
Victor Cruz...UMass
Greg Jennings...Western Michigan
Andre Reed...Kutztown
Charkie Joiner...Grambling***
Shannon Sharpe...Savannah St***
Rod Smith...Southern Colorado
Harold Carmichael...Southern U
Lionel Taylor...New Mexico Highlands
Art Powell...SJS
Don Maynard...Texas Western (UTEP)***
Harold Jackson...Jackson St
Donald Driver...Alcorn

[J.T.]

Andrew Luck is a winner though. If the Colts wanted a stat machine quarterback they could have just kept Manning.

[Bill_Brasky]

In 3 years we can come back and discuss this. For now, Wilson is incredibly mediocre and gets carried by a strong defense and good coaching. Plus he has a good RB to take pressure off of him and hide his throwing deficiencies. He will need to develop some very very good accuracy is he wants to last in the league.

RG3 I believe can actually be very good. He has the work ethic and a very good arm. Right now though, his accuracy isn't very good. Lots of low/high balls last night, as well as missing a throw toan open receiver in the end zone on the run. If he can become accurate on the run he will be great. He also didn't see a wide open Santana Moss downfield for a TD on one play. He also benefited from having a top 5 back, but he's no slouch himself when running the rock. I don't wanna see him taking too many more hits though or he won't last.

[Avante]

Andrew Luck is a winner though. If the Colts wanted a stat machine quarterback they could have just kept Manning.

You watch any of those football talk shows? The Herd? They can't say enought good things about Russell Wilson. He is getting as many props as Luck and RGIII.

I realize some must knock him down because he's black and I bragged about him. But reality is just that..reality. The guy is doing great especially for a rookie. His stats are superior to Lucks and he doesn't have a Reggie Wayne.

It's pretty obvious this bull about black QB's is just that...bull .

[Avante]

In 3 years we can come back and discuss this. For now, Wilson is incredibly mediocre and gets carried by a strong defense and good coaching. Plus he has a good RB to take pressure off of him and hide his throwing deficiencies. He will need to develop some very very good accuracy is he wants to last in the league.

RG3 I believe can actually be very good. He has the work ethic and a very good arm. Right now though, his accuracy isn't very good. Lots of low/high balls last night, as well as missing a throw toan open receiver in the end zone on the run. If he can become accurate on the run he will be great. He also didn't see a wide open Santana Moss downfield for a TD on one play. He also benefited from having a top 5 back, but he's no slouch himself when running the rock. I don't wanna see him taking too many more hits though or he won't last.

Totally wrong about Wilson, are you aware of his stats at all? Ever hear his coach talk about him? What are you watching?

As of right now he is the 7th ranked QB in the league, Luck number 29.

[Bill_Brasky]

Totally wrong about Wilson, are you aware of his stats at all? Ever hear his coach talk about him? What are you watching?

Yeah, and 90% of his good plays are just him gaining huge chunks of yardage on broken plays. Last time I checked you have to be able to throw the ball to win playoff games.

[Avante]

Yeah, and 90% of his good plays are just him gaining huge chunks of yardage on broken plays. Last time I checked you have to be able to throw the ball to win playoff games.

Last time I checked his completion % was over 63 which is better than Luck, Eli, Brees and others. Once again, what are you watching?


http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/stat...er_rating/2012

[Bill_Brasky]

Last time I checked his completion % was over 63 which is better than Luck, Eli, Brees and others. Once again, what are you watching?


http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/stat...er_rating/2012

If he raises it to 70% maybe they'll finally bench him

[Avante]

If he raises it to 70% maybe they'll finally bench him

I don't think so.

Imagine where this guy is headed if he's already out playing most those with far more experience, guy simply has "it" and it's very obvious.

[J.T.]

You're just hating on Luck because he's white. Racist.

[Avante]

You're just hating on Luck because he's white. Racist.

I'm not the one posting threads grading the black QB's, there's your racists. I just thought maybe some reality might be cool. I'm a realist, not a racist. I deal in facts not opinion.

[J.T.]

I'm not the one posting threads grading the black QB's, there's your racists. I just thought maybe some reality might be cool. I'm a realist, not a racist. I deal in facts not opinion.

But if RG3 and Russell Wilson were white and not black this wouldn't be an issue, they'd just be typical white stat padding finesse QBs. So you're only sticking up for them because they're black and you dislike white QBs. Therefore, you are racist.

[Avante]

But if RG3 and Russell Wilson were white and not black this wouldn't be an issue, they'd just be typical white stat padding finesse QBs. So you're only sticking up for them because they're black and you dislike white QBs. Therefore, you are racist.

Some of my prized possesions are...

rookie cards

Joe Montana
Dan Marino
Brett Favre
My 1968 Joe Namath
My 1958 Y.A. tle
My 1969 John Unitas
My 1959 Bart Starr

I value those cards far more than I do my 1985 Warren Moon rookie.

Couldn't be more wrong if ya tried. I just know the reality of the situation, yes blacks can play QB in the NFL. Anyone saying they can't aren't paying attention.

[Bruce Wayne]

Pretty sad tbh. Then one position the caucasion persuasion has left in the game and the niggras are coming to take it over. Niggras who can actual throw and prefer to throw over run.

[Avante]

Sorta like Tiger Woods and the Williams sisters , huh? Wait until they start swimming.

[J.T.]

So much racism in this thread. Yall just mad the white man will always make more money than you no matter what he does.

[Bruce Wayne]

J.T. just mad the average white man is unathletic as .

[Avante]

So much racism in this thread. Yall just mad the white man will always make more money than you no matter what he does.

You do know I'm white, right?

[J.T.]

You do know I'm white, right?

Doesn't matter. There are numerous examples of people being racist against their own, including this thread. Why you gotta be so racist man?

[J.T.]

J.T. just mad the average white man is unathletic as .

eat penguin you ass spelunker

[Avante]

J.T. just mad the average white man is unathletic as .

Well let' s see....

Last white sprinter to run on a USA Olympic 4x1 team, Gerry Ashworth 1964 and he was there because of injuries to black sprinters Mel Pender and Trenton Jackson.

Last white sprinter fom the USA to medal in an Olympic 100/200, Duke's Dave Sime 1960.

Last white running back to lead the NFL in rushing, Packers Jim Taylor early 60's.

We have to go way back to find white long jumpers of note. Same with hurdlers.

[Avante]

Doesn't matter. There are numerous examples of people being racist against their own, including this thread. Why you gotta be so racist man?

I don't play pretend, if others are going to run down black athletes here I'm going to throw some reality at them. I'm not about to put up with ignorance. Blacks are simply faster, quicker, more agile and elusive. We see tall fast black guys, big powerful fast black guys, we don't see that in any other race in abundance like we do the black race, that is reality and that is a fact.

[Clipper Nation]

Did someone really just say RG3's accuracy needs to improve?

Third in the league in passer rating, only Peyton and Rodgers are better... 5th in completion percentage (btw, how the is Rm tied with him?).... 5th in total QBR.... he's only thrown 4 picks all year so far.... by any metric, RG3 is already an elite QB in terms of his accuracy, dude can throw the ball, plain and simple.....

The scary part is, he's young and he has a LOT of time to get even better.... NFL = fcked....

[dirk4mvp]

blinding ignoring the fact most of RG3's passes are dumpoffs, screens, and rollouts....very similiar to Russell Wilson.

elite accuracy

[Lincoln]

In 3 years we can come back and discuss this. For now, Wilson is incredibly mediocre and gets carried by a strong defense and good coaching. Plus he has a good RB to take pressure off of him and hide his throwing deficiencies. He will need to develop some very very good accuracy is he wants to last in the league.

RG3 I believe can actually be very good. He has the work ethic and a very good arm. Right now though, his accuracy isn't very good. Lots of low/high balls last night, as well as missing a throw toan open receiver in the end zone on the run. If he can become accurate on the run he will be great. He also didn't see a wide open Santana Moss downfield for a TD on one play. He also benefited from having a top 5 back, but he's no slouch himself when running the rock. I don't wanna see him taking too many more hits though or he won't last.

Actually that was one of Rg3s worst games accuracy wise I think due to all the Giants pressure up front. He missed a lot of throws he usually makes. Got to give the giants credit there