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    read a tweet that said the NRA's response was asking why don't schools have armed guards patrolling the campuses smh.

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    10 Craziest Quotes From The NRA Press Conference

    1) Gun-free schools zones “tell every insane killer in America that schools are their safest place to inflict maximum mayhem with minimum risk.”


    2) “There exists in this country a callous, corrupt and corrupting shadow industry that sells, and sows, violence against its own people.

    3) “[V]iolent crime is increasing again for the first time in 19 years! Add another hurricane, terrorist attack or some other natural or man-made disaster, and you’ve got a recipe for a national nightmare of violence and victimization.”

    4) “We need to have every single school in America immediately deploy a protection program proven to work —and by that I mean armed security.”

    5) “The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. Would you rather have your 911 call bring a good guy with a gun from a mile away … or a minute away?”

    6) “And throughout it all, too many in our national media … their corporate owners … and their stockholders … act as silent enablers, if not complicit co-conspirators.”

    7) “Then there’s the blood-soaked slasher films like ‘American Psycho’ and ‘Natural Born Killers’ that are aired like propaganda loops on Splatterdays and every day, and a thousand music videos that portray life as a joke and murder as a way of life.”

    8) “In a race to the bottom, media conglomerates compete with one another to shock, violate and offend every standard of civilized society by bringing an ever-more-toxic mix of reckless behavior and criminal cruelty into our homes — every minute of every day of every month of every year.”

    9) “Through vicious, violent video games with names like Bulletstorm, Grand Theft Auto, Mortal Kombat and Splatterhouse. And here’s one: it’s called Kindergarten Killers. It’s been online for 10 years. How come my research department could find it and all of yours either couldn’t or didn’t want anyone to know you had found it?

    10) “Isn’t fantasizing about killing people as a way to get your kicks really the filthiest form of pornography?”

    http://thinkprogress.org/justice/201...ss-conference/

    National Rifle Marketing Association blames everybody but itself and the 300M guns it helped sell.


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    Well this is certainly reasonable.

    lol Kindergarten Killers

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    Tbh, how the did the elementary schools not have a couple of cops. You'd just think that someone would have thought about the possibility of something like this happening..

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    read a tweet that said the NRA's response was asking why don't schools have armed guards patrolling the campuses smh.
    As absurd as asking why someone would have a gun stolen from them and then used on innocent people?

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    Dedicated, armed security guards (or police officers) at every school would work, but who's going to when property taxes go up to pay for it? Republicans, that's who.

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    Tbh, how the did the elementary schools not have a couple of cops. You'd just think that someone would have thought about the possibility of something like this happening..
    I think Newtown hadn't had a homicide of any kind for something like 12 years. I never had a cop in any of my schools growing up. I don't feel anyone was being neglectful.

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    As absurd as asking why someone would have a gun stolen from them and then used on innocent people?

    yup

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    Dedicated, armed security guards (or police officers) at every school would work, but who's going to when property taxes go up to pay for it? Republicans, that's who.

    exactly.

    who is going to pay for it?

    will the NRA sponsor the guns and cover the costs?

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    exactly.

    who is going to pay for it?

    will the NRA sponsor the guns and cover the costs?
    He explicitly called on the federal government to pay for it.

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    I think Newtown hadn't had a homicide of any kind for something like 12 years. I never had a cop in any of my schools growing up. I don't feel anyone was being neglectful.
    Weird, in my area the school district has its own police department. Although I do live near a big city.

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    NRA hijacked by a convicted murderer



    Harlon Carter (Former NRA Executive Vice President)

    On March 3, 1931, in Laredo, Texas, Carter, who was 17, shot and killed 15-year-old Ramón Casiano. After returning home from school that day, Carter was told by his mother that there were three Hispanic youths loitering near their family’s property. Carter left his house, shotgun in tow, to confront the alleged loiterers. After finding Casiano and his two companions, Carter pointed his shotgun at them and ordered them to come with him. Casiano refused and pulled out a knife and asked Carter if he would like to fight. Carter then pointed the shotgun at Casiano’s chest. Casiano pushed the gun aside and asked Carter not to shoot while taking a step back. He was then shot and killed. Carter claimed self-defense, but the presiding judge instructed the jury, “There is no evidence that defendant had any lawful authority to require deceased to go to his house for questioning, and if defendant was trying to make deceased go there for that purpose at the time of the killing, he was acting without authority of law, and the law of self-defense does not apply.” Carter was convicted of murder without malice aforethought (a crime similar to second-degree murder) and sentenced to three years in prison. Subsequently, Carter successfully appealed his conviction with the appeals court, holding that the trial court failed “to submit to the jury appropriate instructions upon the law of self-defense.” When the shooting incident was reported in media in 1981, Carter initially denied that he had killed Casiano before falsely claiming that the shooting took place on his property.

    Carter responded that arming dangerous individuals was “a price we pay for freedom.”

    federal agents investigated Carter concerning his former employment with the Immigration and Naturalization Service after 40,000 to 50,000 rounds of government ammunition were reported missing

    www.meetthenra.org/nra-member/Harlon Carter

    Carter hijacking the National Rifle Marketing Association has the same faultless, impeccable pedigree as huckster,charlatan Joe Smith founding the Mormon, Inc cult.
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    For most of its history, the NRA completely ignored the Second Amendment. If you go through old issues of the NRA's signature publication, American Rifleman, from the 1940s and 1950s, you can read issue after issue without finding a single mention of the Second Amendment. The organization was focused on marksmanship and hunting, not shooting down gun control.

    All that was before what is known in gun circles as the "Cincinnati Revolt" of 1977. The gun-control movement was gaining steam because of a large e in urban crime rates. The leaders of the NRA decided to quit Washington politics and move the headquarters to Colorado Springs, where they could focus on outdoors activities and recreational shooting.

    This enraged an emerging group of gun-rights hardliners who thought guns weren't primarily about hunting; they were for self-defense against criminals. Led by Harlon Carter, the hardliners secretly organized against the NRA's moderate leadership at the annual meeting of the membership in Cincinnati. Manipulating the rules of order, the hardliners staged a coup from the floor.

    When the sun rose the next day, the entire leadership of the NRA had been replaced by strong advocates of the right to bear arms.

    Rather than move to Colorado Springs, the new NRA built a larger headquarters in the Washington, D.C., area and made its central mission to fight against gun control. The hardliners' answer to gun violence wasn't more gun control. It was more guns. If only more law-abiding people were armed and prepared to fight back, then criminals wouldn't be able to so easily victimize Americans.

    The new NRA became an important member of the New Right coalition that lifted Ronald Reagan to the presidency. Even after he was shot in 1981, Reagan insisted that gun control wasn't the answer. Gun control was, in the view of the new NRA, just another example of the failures of big government.

    Playing on gun enthusiasts' love of firearms and the fear of crime, the NRA built a following as the only organization that would stop the government from coming to take their guns. And the leadership began to push for repeal of the restrictive concealed carry laws the NRA itself had once endorsed.

    The NRA isn't satisfied with its powerful influence over domestic gun laws. In recent years, the organization has branched out, promoting its anti-gun-control efforts across the globe. Favorite targets of the NRA include the United Nations and international arms treaties. Although these laws are designed to reduce armed conflict, the NRA views them as burdens on the universal human right to own guns.

    Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/opinion/articl...#ixzz2FiM04r2B




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    Take fake guns out of movies/video games and put in real ones in schools. Got it. Yeah, that's going to fix it. Now I know what the real apocalypse was about - an NRA press conference. They're not just irresponsible. Just plain stupid.
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    Less science, more guns.

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    Weird, in my area the school district has its own police department. Although I do live near a big city.
    School districts in SA have their own officers for sure, but I'm guessing they don't have the staff to have one officer per school.

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    The NRA are a bunch of neoconservative s, at least the GOA backs up their stances with stats, tbh...

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    TBH I find it illogical to think making guns illegal will keep criminals from using them to do something illegal.

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    TBH I find it illogical to think making guns illegal will keep criminals from using them to do something illegal.
    No kidding. like a criminal, with illegal intent, is going to obey a "gun free zone."

    ..really?

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    TBH I find it illogical to think making guns illegal will keep criminals from using them to do something illegal.
    Who said anything about making guns illegal?

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    Who said anything about making guns illegal?
    make illegal, banning, "govt coming for our guns" are all reflexive scare-mongering strawmen that gun fetishists love to whine about.

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    He explicitly called on the federal government to pay for it.
    LOL, we can pay for it with the tax cuts the NRA wants to give the rich!

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    Everything You Need To Know About The NRA’s Wayne LaPierre

    Here are some of LaPierre’s more stunning statements:

    1. Law enforcement are “Jack-Booted Thugs.”
    In March 1995, LaPierre sent a fundraising letter to 3.5 million NRA members calling federal law enforcement agents “jack-booted government thugs” and arguing that “in Clinton’s administration, if you have a badge, you have the government’s go-ahead to harass, intimidate, even murder law-abiding citizens.” President George H.W. Bush resigned his membership in protest and LaPierre was forced to apologize.

    2. Bill Clinton purposely tolerated violence in order to ban guns.
    In March 2000, the New York Times reported LaPierre “said President Clinton tolerated a certain amount of violence and killing to strengthen the case for gun control and to score points for his party. Mr. Clinton called the comments ‘smear tactics.’ Then Mr. LaPierre said Mr. Clinton had blood ‘on his hands’ because he had not enforced existing gun laws.”

    3. Gun-Free zones are killing people.
    After the January 2011 Tucson shootings, LaPierre claimed “gun-free zones and anti-self defense laws that protected the safety of no one except the killers,” and said that “by its lies and laws and lack of enforcement, government polices are getting us killed, and imprisoning us in a society of terrifying violence.” This, despite the fact that the shooting had not taken place in a gun-free zone. He added, “These clowns want to ban magazines. Are you kidding me? But that’s their response to the blizzard of violence and mayhem affecting our nation. One more gun law on top of all of the laws already on the books.”

    4. Obama spent a lifetime destroying the Second Amendment.
    LaPierre refused to take part in discussions with President Obama’s administration after Tucson shootings to discuss possible ways to avoid future mass shootings. “Why should I or the N.R.A. go sit down with a group of people that have spent a lifetime trying to destroy the Second Amendment in the United States,” he asked.

    5. Fast and Furious was engineered for “political advantage.”
    In March 2011, LaPierre said on a Fox News program he hosted that “someone in the government” engineered the failed Operation Fast and Furious “to seek political advantage.”

    6. The UN is coming for American guns.
    In July 2012, LaPierre told Fox News Channel’s Megyn Kelly that a proposed United Nations treaty regulating the global arms trade “says to people in the United States, turn over your personal protection and your firearms to the government.”

    7. Obama will confiscate “our firearms.”
    In July 2012 — just three days after the movie theater shootings in Aurora, CO — LaPierre sent a paranoid fundraising letter warning that the group needed to defeat President Obama’s re-election. “The future of your Second Amendment rights will be at stake,” the letter said. “And nothing less than the future of our country and our freedom will be at stake.” . . . The solicitation letter says that Obama’s re-election would result in the “confiscation of our firearms.”

    8. Obama’s inaction on guns is a conspiracy to win re-election.
    In September 2012, LaPierre suggested a novel theory as to why President Obama had not opposed gun rights in his first term. He said the administration’s inaction was “part of a massive Obama conspiracy to deceive voters and hide his true intentions to destroy the Second Amendment in our country…Before the president was even sworn into office, they met and they hatched a conspiracy of public deception to try to guarantee his re-election in 2012.”

    9. All will be lost if Obama is re-elected.
    In February, LaPierre predicted that gun owners will rally en masse to defeat Obama in November. “All of what we know is good and right about America, all of it could be lost if Barack Obama is re-elected,” he said. “It’s all or nothing.”

    http://thinkprogress.org/politics/20...ayne-lapierre/

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    "Mass killings, such as Friday's shooting in Newtown, Conn., have shocked the nation, but criminologists say to expect more.

    Shooting sprees are on the rise and probably won't be subsiding any time soon.

    "There's clearly been a major upswing," criminologist Gary LaFree of the University of Maryland told The Huffington Post on Friday.

    How much of an increase is subject to debate. According to FBI statistics, the trend is inching upward. People killed in clusters of four or more averaged 163 annually between 2006 and 2008, just two more than back in the 1980s.

    "Homicide trends don't look like EKGs," said LaFree, who is also director of the National Center for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism. "They go up for a while and tail off for a while."

    But, LaFree added, "What's interesting is that we're getting a specialized strain of violence when other forms are in decline."

    One-on-one gun homicides have dropped more than 40 percent since 1980, according to 2010 FBI crime data. The firearm homicide rate sank from 10,000 in 2005 to 8,776 in 2010."


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...ull+News+Feed)

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