While you have an agenda to do all you can to degrade the black QB.
So you see no different between what Luck and Rodgers can do compared to the Mannings and Brady, you serious? Andrew Luck could play fullback, Aaron Rodgers could give the Mannings/Brady a head start in the 40 and still dust them. Can't believe you aren't aware of that.
When you have a QB that can motor (for a QB) you have to rush them differently than a Peyton Manning. Manning isn't going anywhere, while you miss Luck/Rodgers they'll put 15 yards on ya.
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Do you pay any attention at all? Everyone is talking about it, it will be talked about in the playoffs. Everyone is seeing it. What you blind?
Cam Newton, Russell Wilson, RGIII, Colin Kaepernick are where things are going. Dude, just listen to what football people are saying.
that's one of the problems with mobile QBs, at one point they see the space, they get 10 yards, don't see the db coming from the blindside and get pounded to the ground or fumble the ball.. Also, one of the most common Luck's problems, is that he holds on to the ball too much, why do you think that is?
I see a minor difference that's irrelevant and does nothing to bolster your argument (especially since Manning and Brady led their team to a better record than Luck's team or Rodger's team had). All four of them are easily classified as pocket passers most effective when they can sit in the pocket and make a decision. None of the 4 will be outrunning DeMarcus Ware or Von Miller anytime soon.
Luck and Rodgers average 16 rushing yards a game, so there's an obvious misconception you have about how often they drop 15 yards on a defense. The stats your ignoring say that a 15 yard run from them would happen once a game and afterwards they'd do nothing on the ground.
You can try to argue it using anecdotes and corny phrases like "they can motor" till the cows come home, anyone who watches football and hasn't recently had a lobotomy considers Luck and Rodgers pocket passers who become a lot less effective when forced out of the pocket.
Oh look, another logically flawed appeal to popularity/authority because Avante can't respond to the actual content of my posts.
I've never met a more intellectually dishonest person in my life.
You mean those opinions I got from listening to all those football people, those opinions?Avante gets so defensive when anybody disagrees with his opinions.
Dude, who is talking about the past, not I. Why not try and talk about the future which is wherre I'm at with this. You keep telling me about yesterday, yesterday, I'm talking about tomorrow, you really don't get that?
Remember when those experts you listen to were calling Cam Newton a franchise QB and preseason MVP candidate, Avante?
Are you really as lost as you appear?
I'll start hearing about something....some band...for an example. After I listen to them, yep, great band. Only then do I start propping that band. Dude, never seen anyone as lost as you stay. You really thought....wow!!!!!!!!!
So you wanna talk about stuff that hasn't happened yet which enables you base your entire argument off conjecture that can't be proven right or wrong? No thanks. But good job admitting your argument is completely based off sensationalism and conjecture. Progress
You missed my point totally.
Firstt off I know more about most these things than those experts. Been at it a lot longer. All I'm saying is they bring things up that get ya thinking.
Incredible, wow~So you wanna talk about stuff that hasn't happened yet which enables you base your entire argument off conjecture that can't be proven right or wrong? No thanks. But good job admitting your argument is completely based off sensationalism and conjecture. Progress
Do your best, ok?
I 'm talking about the beginning of something we are seeing right now, that isn't clear? Are we not seeing more and more mobile QB's in the league, well? Why do you think that is?
You aren't seeing it, yes you are so why the dummy bull ?
A running QB puts so much stress on any defense, this is a known fact. Even you know that. We are seeing a change, it's happening right now. For you to play silly bull games over something so ing obvious is stupid, pay attention to what's going on.
Words can't describe how intellectually dishonest Avante's arguing style is. He constantly moves the goal posts, employs every logical fallacy that exists, blatantly ignores stats/facts, and of course thinks events that haven't happened yet mean he's right.
It's way too early to tell whether or not this is a fluke or the beginning of something. You're intellectually dishonest for pretending that this season being the beginning of mobile QBs becoming the norm in the NFL is a sure thing. As of right now, the popularity of mobile QBs/the read option this year is no different than the popularity of the Wildcat in 2008.
So we don't have more mobile QB's in the playoffs than ever? How about trying some reality for a change ya reckon?
What? So where are Kaepernick, Wilson, RGIII, Newton going in the next 10 years? yes it's happening and only a fool like you wouldn't see it.
Example
Who replaced Brett Favre? Yep, a mobile QB.
Who replaced Peyton Manning at Indy, yep, a mobile QB.
Watch as we see that happening from here on out. Why bother with Tebow, oh yeah....could run.
in my opinion, the reason for that is simply that GMs are now slaves of statistics.. they need yards asap no matter if it is in a sustainable way.. Also people are always delusional about someone having elite running skills and only using them when needed.
Lol at calling Rodgers a mobile qb....weird that he's been sacked 51 times this season.....but he's mobile.
Shocking that avante is full of again.
At the beginning if the season, after week 2, avante also said the bronco weren't for real....they're now his Super Bowl pick!!!!! Lol!!!!
You ever play football?
You can put 8 in the box to stuff the run, you can double cover a stud receiver. What a defense can't do is deal with a running QB, if he can't make that spy miss then he's not really a runner. A QB makes one guy miss, he's got 10-20 yards before the defense can track him down, sometimes they don't....TD!
If a QB has no running ability, there goes that threat.
Right!!! I mean, look at all the Super Bowls they've won.
Since you won't leave me along.
Rodgers has rushed for 1442 yards, has scored 18 rushing TD's, has scored on a 35 yard rush. That isn't mobile?
In 85 games 1442 rush yards is 17 rush yards a game. Sorry but that's really nothing spectacular.
Not to mention, the word 'mobile' as it pertains to the ability to slide in the pocket is not the same as 'mobile' as it pertains to guys like RG3.....but I wouldn't expect someone who knows as little about football as avante to understand that.
Who said anything about spetacular?In 85 games 1442 rush yards is 17 rush yards a game. Sorry but that's really nothing spectacular.
Compare what Rodgers has done compared to Peyton/Brady when it comes to running. Don't tell me you think Rodgers hasn't ran for over 15 yards many times. Do you watch football?
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