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    Thanks for write up as always!

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    My lord, Spurs have the best record in the league with 12 scrubs on the team. At least that is the consensus on here. Either the players are a lot better than anyone gives them credit. Or is it Pop and his rotations that suck? At least they suck according to some on here.

    I'll take this team against any in the league in a fair officated 7 game series. If we play Spurs ball, we can win. We have proven it.
    The best record doesn't get you anything but regular season championships. Pop's got to coach with the idea of improving for the playoffs. That means figuring out the questions on the roster like who is the backup PG. The last couple of seasons he's been coaching like all they need to do is get to the playoffs and then everything will take care of itself.

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    Jack's got a bad hand and he's playing through it. Plus with limited bigs, he's forced to play minutes often against bigger player than him. He's all heart and fire and for that alone, he stays. When his hand is healed...he's going to be a friggen' animal.

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    B- a little harsh on Splitter that got 15 and 12 IMO or maybe his grading standards are rising? Quietly Tiago has become what many of us expected a very solid/top tier starting NBA big in his current role - his PER. 20.34 is higher than Howard, L. Aldridge of Portland, and both of the Gasol's as just one measure:

    http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/holli.../_/league/west

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    Baynes was pretty much what was advertised
    he looked like he had a good motor on the boards
    but his D wasnt too good, he looked lost and was a bit slow on rotations but it was his first nba game so obviously get better
    offensively he didnt do much of anything but get garbage putbacks and dunks
    had a few bad plays that should also be corrected once he gets more playing time if he does
    he should be able to contribute 5-10 mins at the least for the team as the backup C
    Nice set of grades. i think you set a fairly low bar for the newby.
    I agree with both of these. I'm assuming this was graded on a first-game curve, because it did seem more like a C+ game. He looked a bit lost at times, and had too many turnovers for a big, and quite frankly didn't play very well. But, given that it was his first set of NBA action and that we got to see some of the athleticism, there's plenty of reason for optimism.

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    Jax knows he's earning his paycheck in the playoffs.

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    B- a little harsh on Splitter that got 15 and 12 IMO or maybe his grading standards are rising? Quietly Tiago has become what many of us expected a very solid/top tier starting NBA big in his current role - his PER. 20.34 is higher than Howard, L. Aldridge of Portland, and both of the Gasol's as just one measure:

    http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/holli.../_/league/west

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    I don't see how DeCole gets a B. Turns the ball over couldn't hit the broad side of a barn and matador defense. He looked awful to me.

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    I don't see how DeCole gets a B. Turns the ball over couldn't hit the broad side of a barn and matador defense. He looked awful to me.
    I thought he looked really out of his depth tonight. Don't get me started on Gary. Patty got 2 minutes, please explain. Patty is not the best player on the team , but he plays like it is last game every time he hits the floor. Maybe a few should follow his lead

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    Neal actually passed up shots he should of taken including plays run for him. Not sure if his head was in the game, maybe injured or sulking about something.

    Baynes with the goods.Hopefully becomes part of the rotation.

    Sean was getting very excited.

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    I don't see how DeCole gets a B. Turns the ball over couldn't hit the broad side of a barn and matador defense. He looked awful to me.
    He wasn't passing up wide open shots or stopping the offensive flow.

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    I have to laugh at all the "Nando is terrible, where's Patty?" comments, because Patty was getting all the burn less than a month ago and also wetting the bed.

    Both players have been given consistent opportunities to take the backup PG spot and neither has succeeded. I seriously think it's time for CoJo to get 5-10 games of good burn to see what he can do.

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    He wasn't passing up wide open shots or stopping the offensive flow.
    He wasn't making wide open shots, and his careless handling of the ball sure stopped the offensive flow a few times.

    I actually like Nando...think with another year he'll settle into his role with the team and acclimate to the league. But, he clearly doesn't have it figured out yet.

    I'm not saying Neal is the answer, but Nando doesn't get a B just for not beibg Neal.

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    There's way to much Man Love in here for Stephen Jackson. The man helped us to a championship 10 years ago. You gotta stop living in the passed. He's 34 years old averaging

    6.8ppg
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    $10,059,750 3rd highest salary on the team. More then the great Tim Freakin Duncan.

    His stats are house. If he couldn't help us to the championship last year when we were just 2 games away from the finals what makes anyone think he can this year. I understand he shot well in the playoffs last year and thats what he's about but with his valuable trade chip and dwindling effectiveness i'd be very surprised if the F/O didnt try trade him at the deadline. I don't know how or who for but they'd be crazy to not explore their options in the next few weeks.

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    Mills is the only backup pg this team has so that wouldn't be a smart thing for the Spurs to let happen. There's no way De crapo will come anywhere near a postseason roster so it's probably time for Pop to start switching gears a bit and giving Mills some much needed burn.
    Cory Joseph? You know, he hasn't looked too bad.

    Judging from the box score I would say the Reggie Evans comparison is right on the money.
    I wouldn't ever judge a player based on a box score. And I don't think Reggie Evans is a fair comparison. Sure, it looks like he'll be a capable rebounder like Evans. But Reggie is pretty much a one trick pony with absolutely no other skills. I don't know just how complete Baynes' game will be, but I'd think he'll be much more than just a rebounding drone that does nothing else. He'll be able to contribute some in other areas based on his play in college/Olympics/Ljubljana.

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    Baynes is nothing like Reggie Evans. Evans just rebounds and does nothing else.

    Try NOLA Jason Smith type of player. That's how a see Baynes.

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    Evans sucks at everything related to actually putting the ball in the basket, tbh. Baynes rolled well to the rim and could hit FTs.

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    The best record doesn't get you anything but regular season championships. Pop's got to coach with the idea of improving for the playoffs. That means figuring out the questions on the roster like who is the backup PG. The last couple of seasons he's been coaching like all they need to do is get to the playoffs and then everything will take care of itself.
    +1000000

    Seems like every year lately Pop can't or won't make up his mind on a set rotation until the week before the playoffs start. He has a problem with decisiveness apparently.

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    Seems like every year lately Pop can't or won't make up his mind on a set rotation until the week before the playoffs start. He has a problem with decisiveness apparently.
    You Hayters need to stop.
    Gregor Pop just coached yet another regular season win without cornerstone Matt Bonner. Over the Bobcats.
    Pop is great! Recognize!

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    You Hayters need to stop.
    Gregor Pop just coached yet another regular season win without cornerstone Matt Bonner. Over the Bobcats.
    Pop is great! Recognize!
    Heresy!

    The cornerstone is, and always shall be, Keith Bogans!

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    On the contrary, I feel that his help D is quite good, but one-on-one D is lacking, or at least no flashes there -- he is not being tested enough considering Bobcats has no low-post threat.
    Learning the defensive system and tired legs. I somewhat disagree about 1 on 1 defense...Baynes strength in the low post is evident... Not going to be easy to overpower him there at all.

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    B- a little harsh on Splitter that got 15 and 12 IMO or maybe his grading standards are rising? Quietly Tiago has become what many of us expected a very solid/top tier starting NBA big in his current role - his PER. 20.34 is higher than Howard, L. Aldridge of Portland, and both of the Gasol's as just one measure:

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    Throw David Lee into that mix as well...

    Spurs stars are highly efficient players.... it's rather neat to have 4 Spurs in the top 28 in league PER.

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    To be honest, I don't buy the pinkie excuse. It's not that he simply missed because of being in a funk. His shooting form, moving and footwork are all looking bad. And unlike Manu in early season, it has been like this for Jack for the whole season.

    The only thing he can provide is on the paper, which is we WISH we can throw him at Durant/LeBron in addition to Kawhi. But if he keeps playing like this, we might even be able to pass the Clippers.
    That's probably due to the fact that his 2 fingers on his shooting hand are still taped together.... Jack has had some nice games, and even if he's not shooting well you can still count on him to fight for rebounds and be aggressive on the defensive end. It's probably not easy to change your mechanics on your jump shot and expect immediate results. He'll be fine...

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    no matter what baynes does and outshines whatever scrubs on the bench....

    pop will usually not play rookies in the playoffs...even if he does beat out the scrubs up the rotations

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    He wasn't making wide open shots, and his careless handling of the ball sure stopped the offensive flow a few times.

    I actually like Nando...think with another year he'll settle into his role with the team and acclimate to the league. But, he clearly doesn't have it figured out yet.

    I'm not saying Neal is the answer, but Nando doesn't get a B just for not beibg Neal.
    This is where I come out on Nando as well. I think he has the best potential back-up pg of anyone else on the team, excluding Manu of course. But Pop rarely plays rookies many minutes (notable exception + Tony). Think about how long it took him to get comfortable enough with Tiago to put him into the regular rotation, much less starting him. Pop wants everyone on the floor to be fully versed in Spurs offensive and defensive set-ups. Therefore, people like Tiago and Nando will take longer to integrate than people who have played in our system (like Neal) or a similar system (like the Aussies).

    I predict that Nando will be the back-up pg on a consistent basis by mid-season next season. He has the length, the athleticism, the bball IQ, the passing ability, etc. etc. etc.

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