Best Player in the NBA
Superstar
All-star
Good Role player
He's probably a bit higher than Encephalosha.
Probably. He's more athletic, for sure. Right now though his game reminds me a lot of Thabo's. Thabo at that age was a horrendous 3 point shooter. So bad I cringed everytime he shot it. His improvement there is incredible. Most people don't realize he's at about 42% combined over all of last year and this year. I still laugh when people refer to him as an offensive liability when he's shooting that %.
This. I say fringe all-star maybe he gets a few maybe he just misses a few times ...
Still think a young robert Horry is about as close as I can think of at the moment. I think he is a better defender than Bob was but Horry was a pretty darn good defender just not as good against perimter guys ... but he had prettty good hops and length a la KL.
Maybe a young Tayshaun Prince on defense ...prime Horry on offense?
I'm sticking with my original take. I think Leonard is going to be the Al Horford of small-forwards. He'll be in the All-Star conversation and be a solid championship piece, but the Spurs will not win a championship with him as their best player. Sort of like what Paul George or Luol Deng are doing, but probably better than Deng.
aslong as there are powerhouses like miami and last years thunder (i'm not sold on them come playoff time without harden yet) players like that and even "lonely superstars" as for example rose will not win a tle instead over those multiple superstar teams
Nope, Leonard is a plamaker, Sefolosha is just a defender/role player.
That's probably true. But we'll see how long superteams last after the Lebron generation of superstars declines. If the new CBA does what it's supposed to do, then a team like Houston with Lin/Harden/Parsons/Josh Smith/Asik may be the closest thing to a superteam in three years. OKC may still be great then, but I don't think they'd be much better than a team with a fully actualized Leonard and a legitimate superstar (like Leonard and Irving, or something).
Danny Green with less playmaking, better defense, but worse shooting. No reason why Green can't end up being better than Thabo.
lol at OKC's comparison to Sefolosha
You ing kidding me? Shows your limited knowledge about anything outside of your own team.
James worthy with a 3pt shot.
thabo? Dudes handles suck. When is d last time he crossed anybody over?
He could possibly be an all-star but definitely not a superstar. Doesn't have elite skill or athleticism to reach that level. He is a solid role player because of his defense and the offense he has shown. Just whether he can be an all-star has yet to be seen.
lol at OKC's thabo comparison
when has thabo done the rocker step pull up jumper and fade away jumper?
God Bulls announcers are boring. He sounds like he's falling asleep, or he hates basketball. Gets a little better toward the end of the reel though.
I thought all star would be his ceiling but now I think he can become a superstar, how you going to guard a guy like him? Too big and strong for most SF's, too fast and quick for most PF's. Not only can he create his own shot in a variety of ways but he takes high % shots, and plays like a vet. He's just 21 and it's pretty much his rookie year.
Anyone who hasn't seen him play watch highlights of him vs the Bulls, he is starting to do this practically every game consistently. Shows off some but not all his moves.
I don't see him as a superstar because superstars are usually players who come into the league, and you instantly know they will be superstars. There are exceptions to that, but it's relatively rare.
You could make the argument that he would look more like a superstar on other teams. Maybe his limited role with the Spurs is actually inhibiting him...but maybe not. Maybe it's actually helping him develop. So who knows? All we have to go by is his current play, and he looks like a future All-Star at best.
And that's not a criticism in any way. There can only be one or two superstars in the league at any given position. Right now, the superstar SFs are James and Durant. So unless he's going to be as good as them, he's not looking like a "superstar."
yea! I've been saying this since early in the season. Cant believe more people dont mention it. Scottie was probably a better playmaker at this point, but Kawhi is definitely a better shooter at the early stages of their careers.
And to put things into perspective this is Leonard doing work on Deng and Taj Gibson.
ive been lobbyin for youth movement and giving him the keys end of last season, yet clowns upstairs love the big 3 too much t o make the change
lol wankers upstairs riding the pine
I'm thinking some mix of Paul George and Iggy (poor man's Lebron would be amazing). Leonard is probably gonna be a perennial All-Star (5-6 AS games) provided his health holds up. He has underrated athleticism, a great feel for the game, and an extremely strong worth ethic. The fact he's improved this much in a year with a limited role is astounding. He might become a borderline-superstar but that's only if the league's talent pool remains as bad as it is now.
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