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    The San Antonio Spurs are not going to pay $30 million to make Rasho go away.

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    If Holt views any tax payment as wasted money, how could he view paying Rasho $30 million to not play for him as something to be desired?

    Where's the savings?

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    I know you did...that's all you've been saying.

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    that's all you've been saying.
    All you've said is Holt will waive Rasho this summer if he thinks he will ever pay any luxury tax in any of the next four years.

    How is that any different?

    I presented scenarios in which waiving would cost more than a tax, and all you can do is whine because you don't really understand. I can't help you with that.

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    All you've said is Holt will waive Rasho this summer if he thinks he will ever pay any luxury tax in any of the next four years.

    How is that any different?
    False...I said if the Spurs are truly worried about the luxury tax they'll waive Rasho in a heartbeat...

    This is working under the assumption that the one time loophole applies to them...

    Holt is going to err on being under the threshold rather than over it slightly...his past inclinations prove this...


    I presented scenarios in which waiving would cost more than a tax, and all you can do is whine because you don't really understand. I can't help you with that.
    I understand...you're just splitting hairs like you always do when you are getting owned.

    All I want is some kind of evidence, based on past tendencies, that in someway backs up your point that Holt is willing to gamble on taking a luxury tax hit, for Rasho...

    And it's not just about being slightly over the threshold either...that slightly over the threshold also could prevent the Spurs from being willing to use their MLE to make a needed upgrade for a le run...


    I just want you to show me something in the past that gives the slightest indication the Spurs are going to have the laissez-faire at ude about their cap situation and tax threshold position, that you seem to think they will have...Being one with the sac does you no good here.



    That's all I am asking for....just show me something from the past...

    Otherwise...this is just a typical Chump ass pull, for the sake of a ridiculous argument...that as usual, fools no one but yourself.

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    Damn whott, rest.

    I already laid it out earlier in the thread how the Spurs could handle the luxury tax. Seeings you missed it...

    For those of you who missed it, the luxury tax is no longer a gift to just teams under the cap - the luxury tax revenue is spread over all the teams in the league. So knowing that we'd basically get any reasonable amount over the cap back in luxury tax revenues (thanks to the likes of NY and Dallas, in particular each being about 30 mil over the cap), I think the Spurs don't mind spending a little more.

    (for perspective, using team salaries for the 2004-2005 year and applying the new lux tax rules and a luxury cap of 60 million, the total lux tax revenue would be a hair under 4 million per team)

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    that's very sweet. thanks Rob.


    i really want scola here man. our Spurs need to see what he can do in the nba before making longterm decisions regarding rasho (trade) and nazr (re-sign).

    dev is gravy and agreed that some height on D at the SF position would be the icing on the cake.

    backup pg is not a factor. beno's continued development and better ball handling (hopefully) with barry and manu available if needed, are more than enough. Now if a good one comes available for cheap, go for it, but it's not a priority imo.

    this is a nice easy offseason so far...i love it.

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    I agree the Spurs need to make Scola the next priority, we dont need a back up point guard. Sure Beno seemed to have choked in the finals, but what did our little friend Tony Parker do his rookie year in the playoffs???? He disappeared as well, and Speedy Claxton had to bail him out. Beno will improve his play this year, and with Scola on his second squad man i dont even want to think about it, I just want to see it happen, Scola, Beno, Brown, Barry, and Horry or Rasho, man that second team is going to go down in history as the best back up squad ever.

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    Damn whott, rest.

    I already laid it out earlier in the thread how the Spurs could handle the luxury tax. Seeings you missed it...

    I was never arguing about how the Spurs could handle it...

    I was arguing what their likely course of action would be if they were worried about it...

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    Damn that picture of Romain Sato looks like Earl Boykins, or that dude that came out on Cool Runnings, lol the one that says, "I see strength, i see power, i see a bad ass muda, who dont take crap from no one"

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    Horry signed makes me feel 10X better about this offseason already. Now if we can bag Scola, anything else is gravy for me.


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    Yeah, a major potential headache is averted. If they lock up Devin then the rest will be gravy.

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    You Spursies fans are so smug huh?
    Well, since I'm not some 13yo punk in the closet I'll let you know that 1 Olympic gold is better than 28 NBA Championship rings!
    Just because I have the screen names of Wolf Sack Licker & Laker doesn't mean I'm the same person.
    You will see..KG will play til he's 45 & win another Olympic Gold thus solidifying his place as the greatest player of all time (that NEVER won an NBA Finals ring).
    But KG is a better golfer than Soft TD man! He has a lowering handicap & is a better fisher man..KG is quite the Master Baiter!!!
    I hate you Spursies fans!!!!!
    You're showing your basketball ignorance with this post. Do you really think KG's career will be defined by how many gold medals he wins as opposed to how many NBA championships he would win? I think you are a 13yo punk in the closet, a bas child perhaps.

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    Aaawwwwweessssommmmeeee !spurs Are Smart Keep The Team Together And Improve Like Fine Wine.

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    Holt is going to err on being under the threshold rather than over it slightly...his past inclinations prove this.
    Spurs have been slightly over the threshold in the past, and paid tax, but the funds they recieved were larger than the amount they paid.

    AHF showed -- as I have in another thread -- how that is possible once again, even if the Spurs go a few million over the threshold.

    In addition, I put forward scenarios where a few million in tax paid would still be much less than the amount that would have to be paid to Rasho to not play. Wasted money is wasted money -- wasting $30 million to keep from wasting $4 million is something only you could advocate.

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    What great news to wake up to!

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    This has been an easy offseason thus far. Remember all those past offseasons when we needed to worry about re-signing Duncan, Robinson, Ginobili, Parker, Bowen, Malik, Jackson, Claxton, DA? Having to re-sign your 6th man was huge, but now re-signing the 10th man, and bringing over a talented player overseas? Like everyone said, it's gravy.

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    Looks like Big Shot Rob is going for a record 10 championships!!

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    If the Spurs lock up Devin, then their concerns will be centered on who the 11th and 12th men will be (or who the 4th or 5th big and token backup small forward will be).

    Oh wait, 'extending Nazr or not' is going to be a major issue.

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    Horry made the right choice.

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    If the Spurs lock up Devin, then their concerns will be centered on who the 11th and 12th men will be (or who the 4th or 5th big and token backup small forward will be).

    Oh wait, 'extending Nazr or not' is going to be a major issue.
    From the looks of it now, extending Nazr looks to be impossible, unless we move Rasho in the season. Like timvp said in another thread, Nazr could be looking at a Dampier-like contract in free agency 2006.

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    Yay! Great News!!

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    Which is why you extend him now. If you put enough guaranteed money on the table, that's pretty persuasive. A lot can happen in a year to a player.

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    Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!

    I effing told you all so.

    Yeah, I said it.

    It's OK, I'll just enjoy being right when he comes back next season.


    Now people will have to find some OTHER foregone conclusion to sit and about.

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