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that is awesome. he shall retire a spur
Oh, and somebody check the shower rod for spursdaone.
that is awesome. he shall retire a spur
Everyone wants to play with a winner--especially one that can win again.
Man, this summer is so much easier that past offseasons.
I'd like to see us explore the deep FA market with that in mind--and forget Scola for the coming year. We can have him for nothing after next year.
I told you.
One thing we haven't heard about is additional revenues generated by the Championship. I bet the Spurs sold at least 300,000 T-shirts in San Antonio alone in the past weeks. Figure the T-shirts cost as high as $5.00 and you still have 15.00 to split with the NBA and retailers.
My guess is the Spurs made an extra 18-20 million on the T-shirts. Anyone else have better guestimates.
1.) I knew he would and this is awesome.
2.) Whottt - I like you but please STFU about this waiving Rasho crap. Holt is not going to just waive Rasho and pay him $30M to not play for the Spurs. He is tradeable for an expiring contract if they really want to get rid of him. But, as mentioned, the new CBA and the luxury tax sharing rules have changed a great deal to where you don't have to be under the threshold to collect penalty money. It is shared based on the percentage you are over the threshold and if the Spurs are over it at all, they would barely be. They would still collect plenty of their share of the tax money thanks to the Portlands, Dallas', and NYs of the NBA.
3.) Nazr is not signed past next year. Rasho is not going anywhere until a.) Nazr is extended, or b.) the Spurs can trade him for another quality big man. Also, Rasho could still potentially start next year and would have started throughout the playoffs had he not injured his ankle. Pop couldn't mix up the rotation once the playoffs started and Nazr was playing sufficiently. I have been impressed with Nazr, but you might remember that he suddenly forgot how to catch any pass thrown his way in the Finals. Let's just relax and let the 2 of them battle it out for the starting spot next year.
4.) Holt has never said he will not go over the luxury tax threshold - just that he wouldn't for players that he didn't think fit or deserved it. The Spurs now have a Championship team and on the verge of a dynasty with almost every single player locked down for the next few years. This has never happened before so there is no precedent for what Holt might do in this situation because we haven't been here before. Having a team that is guaranteed to go far into the Playoffs generates quite a bit of additional revenue for owners and winning Championships goes far beyond that. Holt will be willing to spend a few extra million to keep this thing going.
The one thing that I haven't seen anyone say in here is that a waived player still counts against the cap and therefore still counts torwards the luxury tax. Unless I have that wrong, even if they waived Rasho, they'd still have to pay the luxury tax on the amount they were over.
Whott, that had to have been one of the dumbest arguements you've ever put forth. Rasho is in the Top 5 of tradeable commidities the Spurs have. He also has a very reasonable contract. It's foolish to think that the best course of action the Spurs would have in mind to avoid a Luxury tax would be to waive him when they could give him away in a trade and save money that way.
Yeah, it's safe to say Rasho being waived is almost a non exisitant possibiilty regardless of luxury tax implications.
Yeah, like we should listen to YOU, this thread as case in point.
Sequshrimp...............
that's awesome.
Horry is a Spur for 3 more years, and with him, we are gonna win at least 2 more les.
I'm glad they came down to a great decision.
Manny, in the one time waiver thing this summer, the player's salary DOESN'T count against the cap.The one thing that I haven't seen anyone say in here is that a waived player still counts against the cap and therefore still counts torwards the luxury tax. Unless I have that wrong, even if they waived Rasho, they'd still have to pay the luxury tax on the amount they were over.
(which I think is whott wants to see Holt do, as stupid as it is).
You don't waive a tradeable commodity whott. Think before you speak.
I believe that whottt is arguing that the Spurs should waive Radosoft under the 'one time' rule that allows a team to waive one player and avoid paying the luxury tax on the remainder (or a portion thereof) of the player's contract.
Now your talking.
Clarify. The player still counts against the salary cap, right? They just don't have to pay luxury tax on the player.Manny, in the one time waiver thing this summer, the player's salary DOESN'T count against the cap.
He's not saying they should do it, just that Holt will do it if he thinks there is any chance he might pay any luxury tax in the next four years.
The one time rule wouldn't apply to the Spurs this summer because they are not over the tax this summer.
I'm not totally clear on that one, but it would make sense. If a team waives a player now, does he still count this past season's taxes for example? Does the player have to be waived before the 22nd? I need to read more articles, I guess.
D. Marshall would be a much bigger improvement over Horry. Horry doesn't do much.
Yes, the player counts against the cap, but not luxury tax. This one time exception does not apply to the Spurs because they are not over the luxury tax threshold this year.
I am 100% confident in saying that NO Spurs player will be waived based on the one-time exception that the Mavs and NY will use.
Yeah, under no cir stances does it make sense to waive Rasho. None. They could easily trade a serviceable bigman for less (and expiring) salary which would be favorable to trading.
All you suckholes calling me out need to realize something...
I am not in favor of waiving Rasho. I actually like Rasho.
What I am saying is that if Holt gets worried about the tax...he will waive him rather than pay a tax on him...
Now you can guys can argue this all you want...But just realize that you are basically arguing that Holt has become somewhat a free spender...and not the guy that was interested in getting every last rebate cent he could in prior years.
I distinctly remember Holt saying he wasn't willing to go much more than 300,000 thousand dollars over the threshold last season, because he didn't think it's a good way to run a business, this for Tony Parker, the future of the franchise...Keep in mind he could have gone several million over the cap and still gotten a huge rebate..
The bottom line is that Holt is a penny pincher...he wants as much back as he can get...and Rasho sitting the bench and doing nothing is not going to sit well with him...
I am pretty sure that the only reason he ponied up the extra 2 million for last season was because Pop promised to move Malik.
He's not going over that tax threshold by much....especially for a guy who sat the bench as we won a le...he's not going to like not having any flexibility to add additional players...
And IMO, the new cap rules will make him more tight, since he's going to be getting less back in rebates...he's going to want to pay even less in tax IMO.
That is great his ditched shaq and miami. I hope Wade turns out to be like Kobe so shaq can go insane in the membrane.
...when he's right, he's right.
And this one doesn't even have anything to do with Brent Barry.
Whottt the is goin on here?
It's called DEFENSE.Rasho didn't do all year
I haven't looked at the budget projections recently but I can't imagine that the Spurs are in that much danger of being far over the lux tax threshold.
True. I heard, right out of Pop's mouth, over and over again before Rasho got hurt this year..."Rasho is doing exactly what we need him to do".
I think people forget that players have different roles depending on which team they are playing. That is why their stats vary wildly from team to team. We don't always need this guy to score 30 points or that guy to make 15 rebounds against a certain team; we may need those individual players to do something different against said team. As long as they are doing what POP wants them to do, you will see them play game after game; when they fall off on HIS expectations, you will see them sit more (just ask Tony). Isn't that, after all, what they pay the man (Pop) for?
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