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I decided to join the forum today because I was tired of hearing people badmouth Scola, I have always visited this forum as a guest
Prove the people you are arguing with now said that...
I mean how can you know who said what? I don't remember you being here then...matter of fact...I don't remember you being here at all...
I see you come after he just won a le and start putting words in peoples mouths.
Manu>Scola...because they are the same people that are talking sh** about Scola and how he hasnt proven himself yet in the NBA, but playing against some of the leagues all stars in the Olympics and World Championships proves he is
If you don't see it then I am certainly not surprised seeing as how you can't tell the difference between the leagues.
This is coming from a Manu bandwaggoner from day 1...
The MVP in those Euroleagues this season, was an NBA washout.
Success in one does not translate to success in the other...
Do you see the beest PF in the NBA going to play off the bench in the Euro leagues?
No you do not...On the day you see that happen? Then you might have a point...
I decided to join the forum today because I was tired of hearing people badmouth Scola, I have always visited this forum as a guest
Success in one does not translate to success in the other...
so why did manu blossom as a player in the nba
Different styles of ball. Some styles will translate (Kobe's game will be awesome on any court, by any rules), and some might not (undersized power forwards whose offense relies on finesse).
Shareef Abdur-Rahim would be an awesome addition to the club.
He is a decent rebounder, and more importantly, he can put the rock in the hole from the inside (READ: His game will complement Horry's and Nazr's) and he can hit from the long-mid-range (READ: His game will complement Duncan's).
If you can get a 20 and 9 guy on your team, you grab him.
He can ALWAYS be traded for a SF later, because teams are more willing to trade for size.
but it is just the fact of losing a true nba center for another PF
Because he's Manu...
Would you like a list of guys who sucked in the NBA but blossomed in Europe?
It's a long one.
Would you like a list of players who played great in Europe but sucked in the NBA?
Do you think it's easy to do what Manu did?
Do you think it's something that just anyone who is good in Europe can do?
I am sorry my friend...but the Scola doubters are not the ones dissing Manu...
You are.
Doubting Scola isn't equivalent to bad mouthing him. The Spurs had reservations about him in the past -- his defense and his rebounding -- it has been well-do ented. He had a great season this year, so perhaps he's gotten better in those areas (which are necessary for success on the Spurs). So maybe he'll come over and everyone's doubts will be erased. But you can't blame people for doubting.I decided to join the forum today because I was tired of hearing people badmouth Scola, I have always visited this forum as a guest
We get it, ace3g. Scola is from Argentina where Manu is from. He's called the best at his position, just like Manu. He was teammates with Manu on the team that beat the US twice. Thus, he MUST be as good as Manu. Nice attempt but in the real world it isn't that simple.
I was just thinking that the Spurs can actually try to get more out of Portland than just SARS. Since SARS could just walk, trading with the Spurs is a bonus for Portland. The Blazers have some nice, young long small forwards that could be thrown into a deal. Travis Outlaw is 6-foot-9 and pretty much a domesticated version of Darius Miles. Viktor Khryapa is another 6-foot-9 small forward who has skills. Sergey Monya is a 6-foot-7 swingman who they drafted and is currently overseas.
Rasho Nesterovic for Abdur-Rahim and one of those players would be nice. Or Nesterovic and Scola for Abdur-Rahmin, one of those prospects and an unprotected lottery pick would work.
i've heard he's short, slow, tiny arms, cant jump. thats not doubt, that bordering on defamation. the same people who "doubt" also call the people with moderate expectations of him, argentinian lovers... or that somehow because we'd like to see how/what this guy can do... that we all think he's manu! (nuts) - its pure hate, not love for another guy at his spot.
Who said that?i've heard he's short, slow, tiny arms, cant jump. thats not doubt, that bordering on defamation
You might have heard he's short for an NBA power forward at 6'8.
You might have heard he's too slow to play small forward in the NBA.
You might have heard he's not a good jumper compared to the NBA leapers.
That's not defamation or hate. You are just twisting.
ofcourse he got better, he is only like 25, and whoot I would never diss Manu, he is my favorite player; I would never even think about saying something bad about him; sure scola maybe an undersized PF and still needs to work on his rebounding and defense but he has alot more + to him than he does -
the reason why I keep saying why did manu blossom as a player in the nba was to make a point, when he played in overseas he was called "the best SG in Europe" and that was way after the spurs drafted him in 99; so the spurs must have seen something in Scola to draft him way before he got the le of "the best PF in Europe"
I bet alot of you didnt even know who manu was before 2003; I knew manu would be something special right after I heard he was going to be drafted in 99 and I have the same feelings about Scola. So dont ever say that I was dissing Manu; far from it
If the spurs are going to use rasho as trade bait they should go after a young SF like Nocioni because a lineup of
C: Nazr,?
PF: Duncan, Scola
SF: Bowen, Nocioni
SG: Manu, Bowen, Barry, Brown
PG: Parker, Beno, Barry
is better than
C: Nazr , ?
PF: Duncan, SAR, Scola
SF: Bowen, Brown
SG: Manu, Barry, Brown
PG: Parker, Beno, Barry
I would love for Scola to come here and pair with Manu to take over the world. But if the Spurs decide to trade him because they don't believe he fits well, they should be able to get a lot back.
Pop himself has compared him to Manu...basically saying he plays the game like Manu does only at a different spot on the floor. Pop sure seemed high on the guy on a recent show
because pop and the spurs are high on scola and will not trade him, if they were going to do that, they would have done it a couple of years ago
i'm just saying that its pretty awesome to watch... and that i actually dig the guy more because of it. i think people are twisting though. it seems that if you say you want to watch him play... people tell you you're a manu fan with high expectations of him.
I will be happy if the Spurs can get either Scola or SAR. But I think the Spurs will be a better team with SAR in the roster.
Yeah?
And RC pissed him off bigtime during the Olympics by calling him out on his rebounding and defense.
I never said that; and second of all like Manu I looked at how Scola played for his other European teams like TAU. I never said he was as good as Manu; and he plays in Europe which gives him an advantage over NBA players, he has to play in arenas and places that no one would want to play in. Also Scola is the 2nd best player on the Argentina NT and that is pretty good considering all the great players on that team.Scola is from Argentina where Manu is from. He's called the best at his position, just like Manu. He was teammates with Manu on the team that beat the US twice. Thus, he MUST be as good as Manu. Nice attempt but in the real world it isn't that simple.
Also I have seen Scola block shots and play defense; he needs some improvements but not alot.
I think Manu was considered to be the best player in Europe period at the time he came over...and even that's not a gurantee for success in the NBA.
You need to listen to Manu...he'll be the first to say he had a tough time adjusting.
If the Spurs scouts think he can't fit, do you trust them?
Or do you just want him brought over no matter what?
well if the scouts changed their thoughts on Scola, they did it recently and drastically
And the answer to the questions ...
*drumroll*
I'm having second thoughts on the trade Rasho debates. We would have Nazr at center and Tim and Scola(if we get him) as the PF's. Now who play's backup C? Robert is supposed to play limited minutes in the season to keep him fresh for the playoff's but we'd be lacking depth at the C postion.
why would it be inconceivable that we could pick up a back up center? isn't dikembe out there? who else center wise is available this year?
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