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    This is very bad. A lot of people were killed in this explosion.

    http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2013/04/17/f...north-of-waco/

    Measured 2.1 on the richter scale, blew out windows 15 miles away, razed a 50 unit apartment complex...vaporized several firefighters and emergency personnel.

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    jesus ing christ. This is scary to watch. Looks like ammonium nitrate and reminds me of Texas City ammonium nitrate that happened TODAY Texas City, 1947. Same date, April 17.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=ROrpKx3aIjA

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    Wait somebody put a middle school near chemical plant? Or vice versa?

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    fertilizer. to grow crops.

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    This is very bad. A lot of people were killed in this explosion.

    http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2013/04/17/f...north-of-waco/

    Measured 2.1 on the richter scale, blew out windows 15 miles away, razed a 50 unit apartment complex...vaporized several firefighters and emergency personnel.


    God bless those folks

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    fertilizer. to grow crops.
    and blow up OKC govt buildings

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    Man just breaks my heart when this happens.

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    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headline...more-than-100/


    So what was the cause?

    mgmt not training kids?

    absence of a culture of safety, the typical BigOil style?

    simple stupidity?

    old equipment being run until it broke, the typical BigOil style?


    BigAg is not worker friendly place, toxic chemicals causing cancer, etc, powerful machinery, pissed-off bubbas with guns, etc.


    NPR did a great series on "walking down the corn", 500+ killed in grain bins, over many years.

    "The last 40 years, close to 500 people have suffocated in grain bins. 2010 was the worst year on record. We also do ented the weak enforcement of worker safety laws that regulate grain storage and handling."

    "
    Yeah, it is, and it's also illegal to send somebody into a grain bin without proper training, without safety harnesses and lifelines, without shutting off and locking out the machinery that creates this kind of quicksand flow that caught these boys. All of that happened in the Mount Carroll case. And we also found that employers have done this sort of thing over and over and over again, you know, despite hundreds of deaths and despite extensive safety awareness programs and warnings that have been sent out to the grain industry."

    http://www.npr.org/2013/03/30/175765...parks-response

    in fact, all of America is a nasty, dangerous place to work.

    "
    Workplace Homicides from Shootings

    Recent tragedies around the country have focused attention on workplace violence in the United States. The Census of Fatal Occupational Injuries (CFOI) conducted by the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) provides an annual count of fatal work injuries in the United States, including homicides. From 2006 to 2010, an average of 551 workers per year were killed as a result of work-related homicides."

    http://www.bls.gov/iif/#tables


    http://www.bls.gov/iif/oshcfoi1.htm

    Human-American lives (99%) are cheap, Corporate-American lives (1%) are sacred, and enriched.



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    and blow up OKC govt buildings
    That was different. That's so the U.S. Gov't would never roll an American tank over American soil over American citizens ever again. McVeigh broke 'em of that habit early on.

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    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headline...more-than-100/


    So what was the cause?

    mgmt not training kids?

    absence of a culture of safety, the typical BigOil style?

    simple stupidity?

    old equipment being run until it broke, the typical BigOil style?


    BigAg is not worker friendly place, toxic chemicals causing cancer, etc, powerful machinery, pissed-off bubbas with guns, etc.


    NPR did a great series on "walking down the corn", 500+ killed in grain bins, over many years.

    "The last 40 years, close to 500 people have suffocated in grain bins. 2010 was the worst year on record. We also do ented the weak enforcement of worker safety laws that regulate grain storage and handling."

    "
    Yeah, it is, and it's also illegal to send somebody into a grain bin without proper training, without safety harnesses and lifelines, without shutting off and locking out the machinery that creates this kind of quicksand flow that caught these boys. All of that happened in the Mount Carroll case. And we also found that employers have done this sort of thing over and over and over again, you know, despite hundreds of deaths and despite extensive safety awareness programs and warnings that have been sent out to the grain industry."

    http://www.npr.org/2013/03/30/175765...parks-response

    in fact, all of America is a nasty, dangerous place to work.

    "
    Workplace Homicides from Shootings

    Recent tragedies around the country have focused attention on workplace violence in the United States. The Census of Fatal Occupational Injuries (CFOI) conducted by the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) provides an annual count of fatal work injuries in the United States, including homicides. From 2006 to 2010, an average of 551 workers per year were killed as a result of work-related homicides."

    http://www.bls.gov/iif/#tables


    http://www.bls.gov/iif/oshcfoi1.htm

    Human-American lives (99%) are cheap, Corporate-American lives (1%) are sacred, and enriched.



    Lets not turn a sad event like this into a right or left issue.

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    Lets not turn a sad event like this into a right or left issue.
    let's not turn an event like into yet another event buried in propaganda to hide the causes for what's probably totally unnecessary, 100% preventable if BUSINESS had invested in well-known, proven equipment design and safety practices.

    let's not turn it into fatalistic Act of God, nothing could have been done, If Allah Wills It, It Is Written, etc, etc, and move on after 15 minutes to the next entertainment event.

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    Just thank Christ it's not terror related. We're vested 100% in the Boston/northeast region singin' patriotic tunes & playin' MLB. Got no logistics to be in' around down in some "south Bronx hole" in Texas.

    They're dead down there, but, it's a different kind of dead. Like when the boys died under Bush in the middle-East vs dieing under Hussein Obama in the middle-East. Sure, they all come back in a full metal jacket, but, if Media fled Dover AFB after Bush left does it matter? No. Not unless you have a U.S. Gov't notification team on your in' front porch stoop.

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    double takes

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    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headline...more-than-100/


    So what was the cause?

    mgmt not training kids?

    absence of a culture of safety, the typical BigOil style?

    simple stupidity?

    old equipment being run until it broke, the typical BigOil style?


    BigAg is not worker friendly place, toxic chemicals causing cancer, etc, powerful machinery, pissed-off bubbas with guns, etc.


    NPR did a great series on "walking down the corn", 500+ killed in grain bins, over many years.

    "The last 40 years, close to 500 people have suffocated in grain bins. 2010 was the worst year on record. We also do ented the weak enforcement of worker safety laws that regulate grain storage and handling."

    "
    Yeah, it is, and it's also illegal to send somebody into a grain bin without proper training, without safety harnesses and lifelines, without shutting off and locking out the machinery that creates this kind of quicksand flow that caught these boys. All of that happened in the Mount Carroll case. And we also found that employers have done this sort of thing over and over and over again, you know, despite hundreds of deaths and despite extensive safety awareness programs and warnings that have been sent out to the grain industry."

    http://www.npr.org/2013/03/30/175765...parks-response

    in fact, all of America is a nasty, dangerous place to work.

    "
    Workplace Homicides from Shootings

    Recent tragedies around the country have focused attention on workplace violence in the United States. The Census of Fatal Occupational Injuries (CFOI) conducted by the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) provides an annual count of fatal work injuries in the United States, including homicides. From 2006 to 2010, an average of 551 workers per year were killed as a result of work-related homicides."

    http://www.bls.gov/iif/#tables


    http://www.bls.gov/iif/oshcfoi1.htm

    Human-American lives (99%) are cheap, Corporate-American lives (1%) are sacred, and enriched.


    Die in a fire.

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    TB G.F.Y.

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    bot might not die in a fire, if the physical body perishes. might keep spamming us.

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    off, coward.

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    let's not turn an event like into yet another event buried in propaganda to hide the causes for what's probably totally unnecessary, 100% preventable if BUSINESS had invested in well-known, proven equipment design and safety practices.

    let's not turn it into fatalistic Act of God, nothing could have been done, If Allah Wills It, It Is Written, etc, etc, and move on after 15 minutes to the next entertainment event.
    So typical of you blame the business and propagnada? wtf? are you even from America?

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    So typical of you blame the business and propagnada? wtf? are you even from America?


    so the West Fertilizer Company has NO GUILT, SU ION OR ANY ACCOUNTABILITY for THEIR fert?

    West Fertilizer Co. Told The EPA There Was 'No' Risk Of Explosions

    Officials at the West Fertilizer Co. plant where a massive explosion killed as many as 15 people and injured more than 160 on Wednesday told the Environmental Protection Agency and local authorities that the factory presented no risk of explosion.

    The company wrote that there was “no” risk of fire or explosion on a required emergency planning report, according to a review of the do ents by the Dallas Morning News.

    In the report, the company said it had up to 54,000 pounds of anhydrous ammonia -- a gas with suffocating fumes that can explode if it’s lit at very high temperatures -- on hand, but indicated that the worst-case scenario that could take place would be a 10-minute release of the gas that wouldn’t result in any injuries or deaths.

    (Read more at the Dallas Morning News)


    Sergeant W. Patrick Swanton of the Waco Police said in a press conference Thursday morning that while there’s no indication the blast was a result of criminal activity, “we’re not ruling that out,” according to the New York Times.


    West Fertilizer Co. could not immediately be reached for comment Thursday.


    The company was cited in 2006 for failing to get or qualify for a permit, according to the Associated Press. The Texas Commission on Environmental Quality also investigated the plant that year after receiving a complaint of an ammonia smell that was “very bad.”


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/18/west-fertilizer-co-epa_n_3110050.html




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    so the West Fertilizer Company has NO GUILT, SU ION OR ANY ACCOUNTABILITY for THEIR fert?

    West Fertilizer Co. Told The EPA There Was 'No' Risk Of Explosions

    Officials at the West Fertilizer Co. plant where a massive explosion killed as many as 15 people and injured more than 160 on Wednesday told the Environmental Protection Agency and local authorities that the factory presented no risk of explosion.

    The company wrote that there was “no” risk of fire or explosion on a required emergency planning report, according to a review of the do ents by the Dallas Morning News.

    In the report, the company said it had up to 54,000 pounds of anhydrous ammonia -- a gas with suffocating fumes that can explode if it’s lit at very high temperatures -- on hand, but indicated that the worst-case scenario that could take place would be a 10-minute release of the gas that wouldn’t result in any injuries or deaths.

    (Read more at the Dallas Morning News)


    Sergeant W. Patrick Swanton of the Waco Police said in a press conference Thursday morning that while there’s no indication the blast was a result of criminal activity, “we’re not ruling that out,” according to the New York Times.


    West Fertilizer Co. could not immediately be reached for comment Thursday.


    The company was cited in 2006 for failing to get or qualify for a permit, according to the Associated Press. The Texas Commission on Environmental Quality also investigated the plant that year after receiving a complaint of an ammonia smell that was “very bad.”


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/18/west-fertilizer-co-epa_n_3110050.html



    huffington post more slime. I agree if plant ed up then fire ass and throw folks in jail but lets see what happened after the mess is done.

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    huffington post more slime. I agree if plant ed up then fire ass and throw folks in jail but lets see what happened after the mess is done.
    It's the Dallas Morning News, and direct quoting of the company from non-Huff source. aka, simply reporting the All The News That You Won't Fit In.

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    It's the Dallas Morning News, and direct quoting of the company from non-Huff source. aka, simply reporting the All The News That You Won't Fit In.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3110050.html is your link. Anyway folks that owned company and was at fault.

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