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    I personally think Draymond Green needs to be traded or just benched. He doesn't fit.
    really? i thought he'd been doing really well. he does a decent job of defending guys bigger than him, and his outside shot has improved.

    still, i anticipate Lee being reinserted into the starting unit, for better or worse. or they could do what the spurs do with Splitter/Diaw and choose the starter based on matchup. but i think Green is a keeper for them

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    lol DMC.. Draymond Green is the guy they should be starting over Harrison Barnes when Lee comes back. He's a better fit than Speights/Barnes

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    No team with Draymond green would ever succeed.

    Not to mention the warriors top two players are easy to defend.

    What the are the warriors going to do when they Play the Spurs? Or the Bulls ( also overrated but will match up well with the warriors)


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    excellent analysis

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    really? i thought he'd been doing really well. he does a decent job of defending guys bigger than him, and his outside shot has improved.

    still, i anticipate Lee being reinserted into the starting unit, for better or worse. or they could do what the spurs do with Splitter/Diaw and choose the starter based on matchup. but i think Green is a keeper for them
    This. Green is getting better and better. Defender, hustler and adding a jumpshot.

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    really? i thought he'd been doing really well. he does a decent job of defending guys bigger than him, and his outside shot has improved.

    still, i anticipate Lee being reinserted into the starting unit, for better or worse. or they could do what the spurs do with Splitter/Diaw and choose the starter based on matchup. but i think Green is a keeper for them

    He doesn't fit.

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    This. Green is getting better and better. Defender, hustler and adding a jumpshot.
    They are all getting better and better, he doesn't fit into their scheme. He's the odd man out. Trust me on this.

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    He doesn't fit.
    how? he rebounds, defends, can shoot, and is a good passer. he can defend the guys that bogut can't and vice versa. maybe they need another post presence on offense, and i can see that. that's where David Lee comes in.

    i really dont see an issue with Green. He's actually a very good glue guy for them, since iguodala has declined

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    how? he rebounds, defends, can shoot, and is a good passer. he can defend the guys that bogut can't and vice versa. maybe they need another post presence on offense, and i can see that. that's where David Lee comes in.

    i really dont see an issue with Green. He's actually a very good glue guy for them, since iguodala has declined
    He's too short to be an effective 4, and as a small forward, he's a good defender but he shot 33% from 3 last year but he still takes shots. He's getting minutes because Lee is injured, but he'd be starting on another squad (one with lower playoff hopes). He doesn't fit for that reason, not because he's not a good player, but because the Warriors need a true PF, not a taller than average SF who hybrids into the role. Think Blair/center.

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    They are all getting better and better, he doesn't fit into their scheme. He's the odd man out. Trust me on this.
    how? he rebounds, defends, can shoot, and is a good passer. he can defend the guys that bogut can't and vice versa. maybe they need another post presence on offense, and i can see that. that's where David Lee comes in.

    i really dont see an issue with Green. He's actually a very good glue guy for them, since iguodala has declined

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    You don't just take 5 good players and build a team. They have to fit their roles on the team.

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    He's too short to be an effective 4
    this is true or false based on matchups. last year he was actually effective against Blake in the playoffs. it was sort of his coming out party defensively

    and as a small forward, he's a good defender but he shot 33% from 3 last year but he still takes shots.
    his outside shot was supposedly a priority during the offseason and so far (small sample size) it has been showing. he's hitting 39% of them. he also gets much better looks as a 4 than as a 3.

    He's getting minutes because Lee is injured, but he'd be starting on another squad (one with lower playoff hopes). He doesn't fit for that reason, not because he's not a good player, but because the Warriors need a true PF, not a taller than average SF who hybrids into the role. Think Blair/center.
    if you want to argue that he'd be better served coming off the bench, that's fine. that doesn't mean he has no place on the team. he's an asset for them and has a unique skill set for that team

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    No team with Draymond green would ever succeed.


    You are really one ty poster.

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    this is true or false based on matchups. last year he was actually effective against Blake in the playoffs. it was sort of his coming out party defensively


    his outside shot was supposedly a priority during the offseason and so far (small sample size) it has been showing. he's hitting 39% of them. he also gets much better looks as a 4 than as a 3.


    if you want to argue that he'd be better served coming off the bench, that's fine. that doesn't mean he has no place on the team. he's an asset for them and has a unique skill set for that team
    Him off the bench is no better than him in a starting role. You have to have a bigger "big" on the floor. He'll feast on teams but you'll see that he's a liability against bigger backcourts.

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    cant wait till u post the box score of when Green has a bad game. if he fared well against the Clippers last year doesn't that mean anything to you?

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    cant wait till u post the box score of when Green has a bad game. if he fared well against the Clippers last year doesn't that mean anything to you?
    No. Blair fared well against the Thunder. Real well in fact.

    This is about Curry, not Green. The league is full of Draymond Green type players, only one Curry, and he's a chucker.

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    I personally think Draymond Green needs to be traded or just benched. He doesn't fit.
    He doesn't fit.
    They are all getting better and better, he doesn't fit into their scheme. He's the odd man out. Trust me on this.
    He's too short to be an effective 4, and as a small forward, he's a good defender but he shot 33% from 3 last year but he still takes shots. He's getting minutes because Lee is injured, but he'd be starting on another squad (one with lower playoff hopes). He doesn't fit for that reason, not because he's not a good player, but because the Warriors need a true PF, not a taller than average SF who hybrids into the role. Think Blair/center.
    Him off the bench is no better than him in a starting role. You have to have a bigger "big" on the floor. He'll feast on teams but you'll see that he's a liability against bigger backcourts.














    This is about Curry, not Green.

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    ^Which is why I won't post box scores focusing on Draymond Green. Keep it in context, Philo.

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    chucker with 7 assists 1 turnover after 1

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    chucker with 7 assists 1 turnover after 1
    Against the tiest team in the league.

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    This Kobe wannabe didn't shoot 1-14 at least

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    STARTERS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF +/- PTS
    Harrison Barnes, SF 40 7-12 0-1 3-4 5 5 10 1 0 0 1 0 +36 17
    Draymond Green, SF 32 6-13 2-5 0-0 5 9 14 2 0 1 2 3 +16 14
    Andrew Bogut, C 29 4-9 0-0 0-0 4 7 11 1 0 4 1 2 +22 8
    Stephen Curry, PG 31 8-17 3-6 0-0 0 3 3 11 4 1 2 0 +11 19
    Klay Thompson, SG 33 8-16 5-8 2-4 1 3 4 5 2 1 2 0 +19 23
    BENCH MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF +/- PTS
    Marreese Speights, PF 17 5-14 0-0 2-2 2 4 6 1 1 1 1 1 0 12
    Festus Ezeli, C 2 0-0 0-0 1-4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +5 1
    Shaun Livingston, PG 17 2-6 0-0 0-0 1 2 3 6 1 0 0 0 +16 4
    Justin Holiday, SG 2 1-1 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +5 2
    Leandro Barbosa, SG 13 3-6 0-1 0-0 0 1 1 1 1 0 0 1 +3 6
    Andre Iguodala, SG 23 3-6 0-1 0-3 0 4 4 3 2 0 0 1 +2 6


    on the other side, Jrue Holiday shot 5-15 and contributed 4 turnovers

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    Old got and his ty takes

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    thank you
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    STARTERS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF +/- PTS
    Harrison Barnes, SF 40 7-12 0-1 3-4 5 5 10 1 0 0 1 0 +36 17
    Draymond Green, SF 32 6-13 2-5 0-0 5 9 14 2 0 1 2 3 +16 14
    Andrew Bogut, C 29 4-9 0-0 0-0 4 7 11 1 0 4 1 2 +22 8
    Stephen Curry, PG 31 8-17 3-6 0-0 0 3 3 11 4 1 2 0 +11 19
    Klay Thompson, SG 33 8-16 5-8 2-4 1 3 4 5 2 1 2 0 +19 23
    BENCH MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF +/- PTS
    Marreese Speights, PF 17 5-14 0-0 2-2 2 4 6 1 1 1 1 1 0 12
    Festus Ezeli, C 2 0-0 0-0 1-4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +5 1
    Shaun Livingston, PG 17 2-6 0-0 0-0 1 2 3 6 1 0 0 0 +16 4
    Justin Holiday, SG 2 1-1 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +5 2
    Leandro Barbosa, SG 13 3-6 0-1 0-0 0 1 1 1 1 0 0 1 +3 6
    Andre Iguodala, SG 23 3-6 0-1 0-3 0 4 4 3 2 0 0 1 +2 6


    on the other side, Jrue Holiday shot 5-15 and contributed 4 turnovers
    Cherry picking at it's finest (all you gots)

    Golden State Warriors
    STARTERS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF +/- PTS
    Harrison Barnes, SF 29 3-8 1-2 2-2 4 5 9 1 0 0 1 0 +5 9
    Draymond Green, SF 32 4-9 0-2 1-2 1 9 10 2 1 1 1 4 +1 9
    Andrew Bogut, C 24 2-4 0-0 2-2 2 3 5 5 0 3 2 3 -2 6
    Stephen Curry, PG 32 9-20 1-10 7-7 1 3 4 6 1 2 4 4 +16 26
    Klay Thompson, SG 35 7-22 3-5 0-0 2 3 5 4 3 1 1 3 +3 17
    BENCH MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF +/- PTS
    Marreese Speights, PF 24 12-20 0-0 3-3 4 1 5 2 1 1 1 6 +7 27
    Shaun Livingston, PG 14 2-5 0-0 0-0 0 1 1 4 0 0 0 3 -2 4
    Brandon Rush, SG 18 2-8 1-4 0-0 0 2 2 1 0 0 0 2 -5 5
    Andre Iguodala, SG 32 1-3 1-3 0-0 2 3 5 3 1 0 2 1 +2 3
    Ognjen Kuzmic, C DNP COACH'S DECISION
    Festus Ezeli, C DNP COACH'S DECISION
    Justin Holiday, SG DNP COACH'S DECISION
    Leandro Barbosa, SG DNP COACH'S DECISION
    TOTALS FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
    42-99 7-26 15-16 16 30 46 28 7 8 12 26 106
    42.4% 26.9% 93.8%


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