& usually I'm more cautious than that, but, I saw Stamps, I hadn't my coffee yet. I even went back to Page 1 to make sure that it was actually you I would be damning, I got giddy---and yes, the thought of checking my own flashed quickly, but, so did the sphere of 40 gd pages. So I leapt.
Lard ass with another greasy comeback
Not realizing David Lee will be off the books
Draymond Green will sign under the existing CBA
So cap space should never be an issue, with caps pace exploding next summer
2 of it's best players only takes a fifth of the teams payroll
But the cap...
But...Draymond doesn't fit!!!
Bad cholesterol not only blocking his arteries
It's gone up to his brain stems
Curry is a chucker, who can't win games
I can go on but I don't want you to have a heart attack
Whack on that keyboard Fat ass
The ship is already at the bottom. DMC is on a banana boat trying to bring the ship out of the water
LOL epic thread tbh
Lard ass with another greasy comeback
Not realizing David Lee will be off the books
Draymond Green will sign under the existing CBA
So cap space should never be an issue, with caps pace exploding next summer
2 of it's best players only takes a fifth of the teams payroll
But the cap...
But...Draymond doesn't fit!!!
Bad cholesterol not only blocking his arteries
It's gone up to his brain stems
Curry is a chucker, who can't win games
I can go on but I don't want you to have a heart attack
Whack on that keyboard Fat ass
most dangerous 6th seed in league history. clippers, spurs, rox should all avoid the 3rd seed like a plague
RsxPiinoy sure got quiet..
Damn lolBorn squinting..
No, you said he wouldn't fit which is just as bad or even worst.
No I said he doesn't fit. Learn english mother er or use quotes.
Fitting or not fitting with a basketball program has nothing to do with how good of a player he is.
Come on son, what about that Lakers take from 2013 that you abandoned? You and your ilk like to try to dogpile a take you don't even understand but you abandon your ty takes like you were abandoned as a child.
Damn son, that's a whole 'nother level of goal post moving.
Like I said, 3rd world, learn English.Damn son, that's a whole 'nother level of goal post moving.
But he does fit, 1st World, learn context and real life events.
You were challenging whether or not I said he's not a good player. Stop squirming. Either make a kill shot or off.
Where did I say that? English mother er, learn it.
It shows how kneejerk reactionary Spurstalk ends up being trying to be "edgy" when we call the man who will go down as the greatest shooter in NBA history an overrated chucker, and get several people to agree with the idea. Mind-blowing levels of ignorance.
I mean, most of us underestimated how good he would be, but damn, trying to sell the chucker thing... this guy is on another tier with his shooting. It's not just his shot, it's his release and his ability to find it at any point.
We'll see if his contract says that next season, won't we?
I made a point to differentiate between his playing ability and how he fits into the roster. The Warriors already said they were keeping David Lee. If that's the case, Green doesn't fit. If they are getting rid of Lee, Green could be given the max contract he's going to be offered elsewhere.
When I said it Green was a bench guy who could play as a starter elsewhere. I said as much. Same happened with James Harden. He's a good player, but you can only pay so many good players max money.
Oh, really? And here I was all this time thinking you had said something like this:
Two years ago he was an overrated chucker.
2012 - 2013
Split Value G GS MP FG FGA 3P 3PA FT FTA ORB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS FG% 3P% FT% TS% USG% ORtg DRtg +/- MP PTS TRB AST Result Win 45 45 1724 351 757 153 344 162 178 30 188 332 80 9 141 115 1017 .464 .445 .910 .609 25.5 118 102 +12.4 38.3 22.6 4.2 7.4 Loss 33 33 1259 275 631 119 256 100 113 29 126 207 46 3 99 83 769 .436 .465 .885 .565 27.7 110 115 -12.8 38.1 23.3 3.8 6.3
2013 - 2014
Split Value G GS MP FG FGA 3P 3PA FT FTA ORB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS FG% 3P% FT% TS% USG% ORtg DRtg +/- MP PTS TRB AST Result Win 50 50 1764 401 833 159 359 162 184 32 229 444 85 12 162 122 1123 .481 .443 .880 .614 26.9 121 101 +19.3 35.3 22.5 4.6 8.9 Loss 28 28 1082 251 550 102 256 146 164 14 105 222 43 2 132 72 750 .456 .398 .890 .603 30.5 110 112 -6.8 38.6 26.8 3.8 7.9
2014 - 2015
Split Value G GS MP FG FGA 3P 3PA FT FTA ORB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS FG% 3P% FT% TS% USG% ORtg DRtg +/- MP PTS TRB AST Result Win 67 67 2166 548 1107 246 535 268 292 52 284 527 135 14 195 125 1610 .495 .460 .918 .652 28.9 125 100 +21.6 32.3 24.0 4.2 7.9 Loss 13 13 447 105 234 40 111 40 45 4 57 92 28 2 54 33 290 .449 .360 .889 .571 29.8 105 110 -7.6 34.4 22.3 4.4 7.1
These splits show that GSW success came when Curry was less relied upon to score, or whatever caused him to score fewer points, be it being pulled early due to blowouts or else.
There are only two other players in the league with that anomaly for those seasons: Kobe and Lillard (Kobe for the 1st season obviously).
Kobe in 2012 - 2013
Split Value G GS MP FG FGA 3P 3PA FT FTA ORB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS FG% 3P% FT% TS% USG% ORtg DRtg +/- MP PTS TRB AST Result Win 42 42 1578 371 778 60 193 254 306 37 261 301 62 18 144 86 1056 .477 .311 .830 .579 30.1 115 102 +12.9 37.6 25.1 6.2 7.2 Loss 36 36 1434 367 817 72 214 271 320 29 172 168 44 7 143 87 1077 .449 .336 .847 .562 34.0 109 116 -9.3 39.8 29.9 4.8 4.7
No one here other than blind homer Lakers fans has any issue acknowledging the fact that the Lakers fared worse when Kobe scored a ton of points. However when it's Curry who's scoring outbursts led to losses, they were blinded by his shooting ability and blamed the rest of the team for not being good enough to win.
Now it's basically the same team, the difference is right there in the splits.. Curry scores more in wins than in losses now, on average.
Now Steph averages about 32 minutes a game, and that's not because Steph is blowing the other team out. It's because Kerr doesn't play Steph ball all game, win or lose. That's how Jackson played. He'd play Steph 40 minutes during an obvious loss. Still Steph is averaging only .2ppg less than he did last year when he averaged about 4 more minutes a game, but Klay is scoring more (21ppg in 31 minutes vs 18ppg in 35.4 minutes). Klay's assists are up to 2.9 per game while they were 2.2 for the previous 2 years. Meanwhile Steph's assists are almost a full assist per game lower than last season, which says other players are making the money pass now, not just Steph. That means it's not Steph ball until fail then bailout pass.
So I think you're the knee jerk reaction poster here. You just see he's done well this year and had to offer your MENSA 2 cents. You could have made that assessment any time in the past two years yet it took you two years to come around to it.
See where I said "not because he's not a good player"?
your primary reason for him being a bad fit was his height/length. it's not as though that factor has changed at all. instead we saw him defending marc gasol straight up and doing a pretty good job against him. you also specifically cited playoff rebounding as an issue, and yet he's been averaging about 10.5 per contest in these playoffs
we all have incorrect takes, its about time you own up to a couple of yours
Gasol just sucked. Green didn't do much to cause that. He's not big enough to defend big centers. Only an idiot would think otherwise.
Draymond is a small forward playing the role of a power forward. GSW don't need a 6'7 "big". They'd need him more as a wing defender but he's not a great 3pt shooter (yet takes over 4 a game).
If he was on a mediocre shooting team, he'd not get the notice he gets in GS. Sure he adds to the success, but so do the other players.
Lee's contact goes through next season. Draymond's is up after this season. Do you think the GSW will keep Lee on the bench for 16m of cap space, a guy who was averaging a double double prior to being benched, and pay Green a max salary? Certainly some other team will over Green that much. GS doesn't need to. They could get any 6'7" scrappy small forward and be just as successful. So he doesn't fit.
Yeah size matters, and he's small for his role. If they could keep in for free, sure, but teams don't typically pay max contracts for one way players. Green is a great defender, but his offense is just middle of the road. On that team when Steph is pulling a double team and Klay is the rotation cover, Green should score more. 44% isn't shabby but it's not great. He'd do better to leave the 3pt line alone most of the night.
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