Grizzlies: "Fat" Gasol is the best big man in the game

[LkrFan]

I'm insanely jealous of the Grizz for having Marc Gasol, he's definitely becoming the best big in the game, tbh...

That's all I'm saying. He is better than what many Spurs fans will admit to - even after 8.

[Cry Havoc]

I think u are trolling but i am gonna bite.

Scoring
17,8 ppg(50% FG)[21,3 per 36] vs
14,1 (49% FG)[14,5 per 36]

Rebounding
9,9 rpg(19% TRB) [11,9 per 36]
7,8 rpg(13,1% TRB) [8,0 per 36]

Blocks
2,7 bpg(BLK%= 6,4) [3,2 per 36]
1,7 bpg(BLK%= 4,1) [1,8 per 36]

Duncan DRtg = 95
M.Gasol DRtg = 98 (and he has better defenders on his team than Timmy)

Ownage.

Duncan is better in every facet of the game in 2013 than Marc Gasol.

[TheCultOfPersonality]

I don't know about the best big in the game, but I think he's more talented then he's shown.

The guy can be passive at times.

[Clipper Nation]

That's all I'm saying. He is better than what many Spurs fans will admit to - even after 8.

Still though, Duncan has the edge until he retires... then it'll be Marc Gasol, Brow, and maybe Blake if his next coach can get him to stop being passive...

[Cry Havoc]

Still though, Duncan has the edge until he retires... then it'll be Marc Gasol, Brow, and maybe Blake if his next coach can get him to stop being passive...

Edge? There's a chasm between Gasol and Tim. Duncan is averaging more per game than Gasol in every statistical category despite playing 5-6 minutes per game less.

[LarryDavid]

Opinions. Where are your 2013 facts?

Judge these stats as you will...

Advanced - http://stats.nba.com/playerVsPlayer....&PerMode=Per48

Regular - http://stats.nba.com/playerVsPlayer....&PerMode=Per48

Per 36 - http://stats.nba.com/playerVsPlayer....&PerMode=Per36

[LkrFan]

I think u are trolling but i am gonna bite.

Scoring
17,8 ppg(50% FG)[21,3 per 36] vs
14,1 (49% FG)[14,5 per 36]

Rebounding
9,9 rpg(19% TRB) [11,9 per 36]
7,8 rpg(13,1% TRB) [8,0 per 36]

Blocks
2,7 bpg(BLK%= 6,4) [3,2 per 36]
1,7 bpg(BLK%= 4,1) [1,8 per 36]

Duncan DRtg = 95
M.Gasol DRtg = 98 (and he has better defenders on his team than Timmy)

Does this account for pace? I highly doubt Duncan puts up those numbers in Memphis. Just like if Marc played in SA his numbers would likely e due to their style of play. Kind of how MDA's offense made Earl Clark look like a decent player (for a stretch anyway).

[Cry Havoc]

Does this account for pace? I highly doubt Duncan puts up those numbers in Memphis. Just like if Marc played in SA his numbers would likely e due to their style of play. Kind of how MDA's offense made Earl Clark look like a decent player (for a stretch anyway).

Backpedaling.

Duncan not even playing as many minutes as Gasol.

You're ing wrong.

[mercos]

The fact that this is even debatable shows how weak NBA front courts are these days. That being said, Gasol is still not the best big man in the game. , I'd argue he's still not the best Gasol in the NBA now that his brother is actually getting touches in LA. And as others have pointed out, Duncan is still superior to Baby Gasol.

[Budkin]

I know hindsight is 20/20, but is wish we never traded his rights to the Grizzlies. This dude has a wet jumper. He bangs. He rebounds. He swats. He's a crafty passer. His hoops IQ is on par with his soft brother.

He just won DPOY and has improved each year he has played. He still hasn't reached his ceiling. He played a major role in 8 and if they beat the Clipps this year (I expect it tbh), he'll be the catalyst.

What's not to like about him? I'd trade Howard for this dude right now and not think twice tbh.

Umm you traded him for 2 Championships. I think that was worth it.

[TrainOfThought5]

Spurfan submits exhibit A. Spurfan rests their case.

[mystargtr34]

God damn Marc Gasol has become the most overated player in the NBA.

[TDfan2007]

Does this account for pace? I highly doubt Duncan puts up those numbers in Memphis. Just like if Marc played in SA his numbers would likely e due to their style of play. Kind of how MDA's offense made Earl Clark look like a decent player (for a stretch anyway).

at first I thought you were trolling, but then I realized that you have to be somewhat intelligent to troll.

The rebound rate that he showed you most definitely accounts for pace, but just for the sake of argument let's throw another stat in there...

PER accounts for pace. Let's have a look at those numbers:

Duncan: 24.45 (#6 in the league)
Gasol: 19.57 (#34 )

Marc is a fantastic defender and passer, with a sweet jumper, but he's not the best big in the game. , he's not even the best rebounding/scoring big on his own team.

Duncan is the better scorer, rebounder, and leader. Passing and overall defense are a wash. There are only 2 things in all of basketball that Marc does better than Duncan: pick and roll D and FT shooting (barely).

[racm]

Fat Gasol is 7'1" and has a rebounding rate similar to Brook Lopez's, tbh...

[CitizenDwayne]

God damn Marc Gasol has become the most overated player in the NBA.

It's like everyone has decided to start sucking his at once, after years of flying under the radar.

[Latarian Milton]

plus Marc & bynum would be surpluses to each other and you'll have to split minutes at C between these two s, which means both s being underused.

[whitemamba]

Gasol is a beast. Does it all for a big man, not going to get mad that we got pau though LkrFan, Pau in his prime was the best big in the league.

[100%duncan]

Lakerfans, owned by stats. Per par.

[Findog]

I know hindsight is 20/20, but is wish we never traded his rights to the Grizzlies. This dude has a wet jumper. He bangs. He rebounds. He swats. He's a crafty passer. His hoops IQ is on par with his soft brother.

He just won DPOY and has improved each year he has played. He still hasn't reached his ceiling. He played a major role in 8 and if they beat the Clipps this year (I expect it tbh), he'll be the catalyst.

What's not to like about him? I'd trade Howard for this dude right now and not think twice tbh.

Typical Laker fan. Without Pau you don't ring in 2009 and 2010. He'll be fine next year after the Lakers amnesty him and he goes to a team that knows how to use him, instead of Coach Pringles having him shoot 18 foot jumpers.

[LkrFan]

Typical Laker fan. Without Pau you don't ring in 2009 and 2010. He'll be fine next year after the Lakers amnesty him and he goes to a team that knows how to use him, instead of Coach Pringles having him shoot 18 foot jumpers.

They won't amnesty him. Trade is more likely. What would they gain through amnesty if he has great trade value as an expiring $19M contract?

Agreed on how they (MB & MDA) did not using him correctly, but even if they did - for at least 2 years - Marc has been a better center than him too.

[LkrFan]

plus Marc & bynum would be surpluses to each other and you'll have to split minutes at C between these two s, which means both s being underused.

In this scenario you trade Bynum and build around Marc.

[LkrFan]

God damn Marc Gasol has become the most overated player in the NBA.

He's an all star. He also just won DPOY to go with his complete offensive game. We'll see if he's overrated if you guys matchup.

[midnightpulp]

Probably the 2nd best big in the league right now behind Duncan.

And that's not my homerism speaking. Duncan has been in stroke this year on both ends of the court, and should've won DPOY, but I think his comparatively lower minutes compared to Gasol and the games his missed due to injury/rest is why he didn't.

[100%duncan]

Doesn't deserve DPOY. Duncan or Lebron should've won it tbh.

[JRHernandez88]

he aint on the level