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  1. #51
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    Last 10 Super Bowl winning QBs:

    Joe Flacco
    Eli Manning
    Aaron Rodgers
    Drew Brees
    Ben Roethlisberger
    Eli Manning
    Peyton Manning
    Ben Roethlisberger
    Tom Brady
    Tom Brady

    Please ing leave this forum right now, you're right like 2% of the time and that's a generous estimate.
    You can't be as stupid as you act. Do you honestly believe the guy who can name every SB winning QB doesn't know that list?

    Pay attention dummy...

    We are talking about ...THE FUTURE....based on what we are seeing today, ok ya get that moron? Tell me what kind of QB was drafted first? How about second? Didn't we have a 4.5 sprinter qb in the SB?

    Is this little for real?

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    one's old, one's injury prone and has a bad at ude, and one is short and an average, maybe below average QB, when he can't out-athlete potential tacklers

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    one's old, one's injury prone and has a bad at ude, and one is short and an average, maybe below average QB, when he can't out-athlete potential tacklers
    So you don't follow football much.

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    We see it in evey draft, just like this draft.
    We are talking about ...THE FUTURE....based on what we are seeing today, ok ya get that moron?
    It's adorable how you amend your arguments when they start to crumble.

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    It's adorable how you amend your arguments when they start to crumble.
    I assumed you had enought common sense to know I'm talking about recently. Are you saying ...no we aren't seeing more mobile QB's than ever?

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    There's no such things as fads in the NFL

    cordially, the run n shoot and the wildcat

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    Run and Shoot......

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    There's no such things as fads in the NFL

    cordially, the run n shoot and the wildcat

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    Only two stats really matter to me when it comes to football.

    Running backs...average per carry.

    QB's...completion %.......which tells it all right there. Andrew Luck sucked in that department, totally and completely. No way around it. That is the stat that tells you what sort of passer someone is. You cannot have a completion % that weak and be bragged about.

    Let's see what happens.
    So Matt Ryan > Rodgers, Manning, Brees and Brady?

    and Bernard Pierce is the 7th best RB in the league? Got it.


    You just listed two of the most deceiving stats in all of football. Obviously the higher the better but they don't tell the whole story as you seem to suggest. Style of offense, check downs, drops, garbage time, long runs skewing the average...etc. Too many variables.

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    So Matt Ryan > Rodgers, Manning, Brees and Brady?

    and Bernard Pierce is the 7th best RB in the league? Got it.


    You just listed two of the most deceiving stats in all of football. Obviously the higher the better but they don't tell the whole story as you seem to suggest. Style of offense, check downs, drops, garbage time, long runs skewing the average...etc. Too many variables.
    Got it...hahahaha!!!!!!!!! Who the you talking to midget?

    Average per carry, says it all when it comes to a running back. Sure the pounders are judged differently.

    Completion % is the biggie. That's the stat that tells it all.

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    Wow what a ing re .

    Seriously. You're retarted. You have Down syndrome.

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    Wow what a ing re .

    Seriously. You're retarted. You have Down syndrome.
    Nope, just know a lot of football.

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    I'd take Favre, Ahman Green, and any WR from those packer teams over the Seachicken trio
    Heck, Carson Palmer, Rudi Johnson, Chad Johnson > yours

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    I'd take Favre, Ahman Green, and any WR from those packer teams over the Seachicken trio
    Heck, Carson Palmer, Rudi Johnson, Chad Johnson > yours
    So what was in your opinion the best Raider triplets?

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    So what was in your opinion the best Raider triplets?
    Probably Stabler, Van Eghen, Belitnikoff
    Plunkett, Allen, Branch too

    or modern era Gannon, Garner, Rice/Brown pick either

    i don't think Wilson or harvin are anywhere near proven enough to be on any sort of all time ranking

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    Probably Stabler, Van Eghen, Belitnikoff
    Plunkett, Allen, Branch too

    or modern era Gannon, Garner, Rice/Brown pick either

    i don't think Wilson or harvin are anywhere near proven enough to be on any sort of all time ranking
    I agree about none of the Seahawks and all time.

    I like your Stabler, Van Eeghan and Biletnikoff.

    I will never understand how Lynn Swann (other than SB exploits) can be in the Hall of Fame while Cliff Branch isn't. Branch's stats are far superior to Swann's. Branch also out stats Bob Hayes another HOFrer.

    You familiar with Warren Wells?

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    I agree about none of the Seahawks and all time.

    I like your Stabler, Van Eeghan and Biletnikoff.

    I will never understand how Lynn Swann (other than SB exploits) can be in the Hall of Fame while Cliff Branch isn't. Branch's stats are far superior to Swann's. Branch also out stats Bob Hayes another HOFrer.

    You familiar with Warren Wells?
    Super old school. I believe he held some yard/catch records. Art Powell is another one. Daryle Lamonica is my favorite raiders qb tbh

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    Super old school. I believe he held some yard/catch records. Art Powell is another one. Daryle Lamonica is my favorite raiders qb tbh
    You being a Raider fan are well aware of that vaunted Raider vertical game. You are also aware of Al Davis 's thing about speed. Well it was Warren Wells a 9.4 sprinter out of Texas Southern who started it all, he was the reason Lamonica was called ...The Mad Bomber. Lamonica to Wells was the best long ball duo in all of football not just the old AFL. Wells was amazing. Nobody could run with him and nobody had a better long ball than Lamonica.

    Wells got busted for drug sales. Yep, prison.

    Art Powell one of the great AFL receivers, was out of San Jose State. He belongs with Brown, Biletnikoff and Branch, can't include Wells because his career was too short.

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    You being a Raider fan are well aware of that vaunted Raider vertical game. You are also aware of Al Davis 's thing about speed. Well it was Warren Wells a 9.4 sprinter out of Texas Southern who started it all, he was the reason Lamonica was called ...The Mad Bomber. Lamonica to Wells was the best long ball duo in all of football not just the old AFL. Wells was amazing. Nobody could run with him and nobody had a better long ball than Lamonica.

    Wells got busted for drug sales. Yep, prison.

    Art Powell one of the great AFL receivers, was out of San Jose State. He belongs with Brown, Biletnikoff and Branch, can't include Wells because his career was too short.

    Undoubtedly the greatest nickname a quarterback ever had. Good to speak with a fellow football historian. Most of this was way before my time but I'm enamored with the history of the sport. Own a lot DVD/VHS stuff of the older days.

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    Undoubtedly the greatest nickname a quarterback ever had. Good to speak with a fellow football historian. Most of this was way before my time but I'm enamored with the history of the sport. Own a lot DVD/VHS stuff of the older days.
    One of the great nicknames period. Lamonica doesn't get his props as you know.

    Clemon Daneils out of Prairie View was the Raiders first great back, their first 1000 yard rusher. Had good power with some wiggle and speed.

    When it comes to speed, the Raiders have had more than most countries, dead serious.

    Anytime ya wanna talk NFL/AFL history, cool with me. Just come here.
    Last edited by Avante; 05-18-2013 at 04:24 AM.

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    One of the great nicknames period. Lamonica doesn't get his props as you know.

    Clemon Daneils out of Prairie View was the Raiders first great back, their first 1000 yard rusher. Had good power with some wiggle and speed.

    When it comes to speed, the Raiders have had more than most countries, dead serious.

    Anytime ya wanna talk NFL/AFL history, cool with me. Just come here.
    To me, Clem Daniels is synonymous with the "sea of hands"

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    To me, Clem Daniels is synonymous with the "sea of hands"
    That was USC's Clarence Davis. Daneils was there with Lamonica. Daneils and Florida A&M's Hewritt Dixon one of the great running back duos, something the old AFL was known for.
    Last edited by Avante; 05-18-2013 at 05:16 AM.

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    ah wow. good call. late night for me!

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    ah wow. good call. late night for me!
    Obvious what happened...C-lem, C-larence, D-aneils, D-avis.

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