That idiotic play haunts me to this very day - and I hope it haunts him too.
Sorry, but a series of smaller mistakes throughout the game will give the same outcome IMO. I seriously want you to play extra special attention to him next game, I'm gonna bump this thread with a breakdown of all of his plays good or bad and we'll resume this then.
Combined w/ this and .4, we should be looking a 7 god damn Championships this year tbh..
That idiotic play haunts me to this very day - and I hope it haunts him too.
Tonight we had a 'series of smaller mistakes' by other players too. Do we need to bump this for everyone? Even Memphis screwed up majorly tonight in the clutch.
At least if you're going to tell me Manu stands out as a guy that consistently makes bad decisions, then the least I expect you to do is refute the numbers presented instead of simply pretend they weren't posted.
Posting some stats doesn't automatically win you a debate. You know that the stat sheet is not the be all end all measuring stick, and that goes for positive or negative actions. And I am referring to series 1-3, not just tonight. Like I said, we'll resume this Saturday. Hopefully he will shut me up. Since you're a stand up guy don't want to inconvenience the board with a bump, I'll just post in whatever thread you're in at the time.
what I posted were numbers for the entire playoffs (series 1-3)
That's reality. If you can't deal with it, can always go back to the xanax, tbh...
As far as I'm concerned, you can post your opinion about Manu anywhere you want, whenever you want. After all, everybody already does.
I'm not particularly concerned about Manu as long as he keeps producing at the rate he does and he help us win games. Ultimately, what matters is that the Spurs win, the rest is silly chatter.
Everyone commits mistakes... I bet you've been sucking Manu's nuts when he hits the game winning basket against warriors.
#Whataloser
Obviously not since he makes a stupid TO there and makes that foul! It does not haunt him, he just plays and then does what he does. Good or Bad he will do it.
That idiotic play haunts me to this very day - and I hope it haunts him too.
That's reality. If you can't deal with it, can always go back to the xanax, tbh...
As far as I'm concerned, you can post your opinion about Manu anywhere you want, whenever you want. After all, everybody already does.
I'm not particularly concerned about Manu as long as he keeps producing at the rate he does and he help us win games. Ultimately, what matters is that the Spurs win, the rest is silly chatter.
Great stats. Can you also post his FG and FT%? Just to get a more unbiased screenshot of his performance..
he made the right play. if you are going to foul, you have to damn well make sure they dont get an and-1. ref blew the call and handed memphis a gift
Totally agree. Manu screwed up and turned the ball over near midcourt, giving them a fast break opportunity. So if you can't wrap the guy up befoe he goes airborne, then let him lay it in for god's sake. We're still up 2 if that happens.
But Manu actually made a typical rookie mistake, compounding the turnover with a foul...and double compounding it with a flagrant which gave them the ball.
I'd love to know the odds of one player making all those mistakes which add up to blowing a 4-point lead with the ball. And to make it even more ridiculous, Manu is outr best crunchtime foul shooter.
Frigging unbelievable.
FGM/FGA: 3.8-9.8
FG%: .381
FTM-FTA: 2.2-3.3
FT%: .667
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/272/manu-ginobili
This is, by far, the dumbest thing you've ever said, and that includes "tell me why Memphis shouldn't be heavily favored".
Also, not the regular season, so it's kind of irrelevant even if your statement wasn't complete BS. Last seconds of a playoff game. If someone did that in Chicago vs. Miami, they'd have gotten booed for letting go of his arm.
no he didn't fall head first. LOL bllind
True, that was bad acting but that only hurt his case. You pull someone out of the air and make them land head-before-body and you're getting a flagrant.
Describing the .4 game as a Manu mistake shows how ing dumb you are.
Yeah, by no means a Manu mistake. He was all over Fish and a fingertip away from blocking the shot.
Wow. 8 pages on what should have been a simple OP fail.
Manu's mistakes during these playoffs have been glaring and incredibly frustrating. If not for a few lucky made shots (well, really just the WCSF G1 gamewinner), it would be very difficult to continue to have confidence in him. His free throw shooting is just inexcusable. What happened there? He used to be automatic from the line, but now he's pretty much a lock to miss at least 1 FT every time he gets fouled. Shot selection has also been quite bad for the most part; heavily contested 3s from 5 feet behind the line, etc.
This foul is just another example of a mental lapse in a long line of mental lapses. Very disappointing.
It was a BS flagrant. Even JVG was astounded at it, and the fact that Allen flopped so hard. OBviously a flagrant is a bad play, but in that situation, you wrap him up and foul him 100% of the time, no questions. Two pressure free throws ALWAYS > > > easy layup.
Manu gave us plenty of things to be mad about. That foul was not one of them.
lol timvp
OP fail
thank you, common sense prevails. whoever started this thread should be kicked in the nuts.
Well, former ref Steve Javie just confirmed on ESPN that the officials correctly ruled it a flagrant foul. So there's that. I'll trust his opinion over anyone's on this forum.
Let him ing score. He never knows the damn situation he is in. Spurs would have been up 2 with 26 seconds and the ball. Pop calls a TO and the Spurs run the clock and try to get a good shot. At worst you give the ball back to Memphis with maybe 7 or 8 seconds left to play still up 2.
There was no flop on the play. He fell legitimately on a hard foul. A classic example of a good playoff foul. There wasn't anything to sell except the fake head injury. I'm not sure how you think anyone can turn it into something even more.If Manu gets fouled like that he does a legitimately great flop and gets Allen served up with a flagrant 2 ejection. Manu maybe turns that into a suspension,tbh. Allen's flop was so terrible he almost cost himself a flagrant
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