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    Goodbye Manu!!!!

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    The only real relief of Splitter and Manu less than stellar performances this finals is their price tags just dropped tremendously for the Spurs. This will allow the Spurs to sign someone for a pretty decent contract.

    Last year, I wanted the Spurs to sign OJ Mayo and I still do. Him starting next to Kawhi, Parker, Duncan and Splitter with Green, Manu, De Colo, Neal and Diaw being the main guys coming off the bench.

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    Thanks for the memories but his skill level fell off the cliff after the all star break.

    He is still a game changer but not in a good way.

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    It's pretty clear Manu is destined for the scapegoat tag in the E-N this summer. They'll destroy him down to where he's a minimum contract if he returns at all.

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    Ginobili is an all-time Spurs legend, but they should retire his jersey and move on. He's become a liability and does more harm than good.

    If they insist on sticking with him, then they must also insist that he retires from international basketball.

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    Manu is still a very serviceable player. The problem comes in when people (fans and/or coaches) expect him to be anything more than a 4th or 5th option. Off the bench as a 15-18 minute guy, he'd be fine.

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    his game is done!

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    Manu is still a very serviceable player. The problem comes in when people (fans and/or coaches) expect him to be anything more than a 4th or 5th option. Off the bench as a 15-18 minute guy, he'd be fine.
    The problem is, our coach expects just that.

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    I would offer 2 years for 6 million (3 million a year). I think he is worth that for 15 - 20 minutes a game. But he needs to promise to not play for his country in the offseason. The man isn't done he just isn't close to the Manu we have seen the past 10 years.

    The main reason I feel that he should not get paid more is that Manu always put country first. I am okay with that, but the Spurs have lost a lot of minutes due to his injuries because he chose to do that. Tim changed his offseason workouts so that he could get more milage out of his body. Manu did the opposite. I still love him, but that has to be a consideration when considering an extension. If Manu feels insulted, then let him walk.

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    I would offer 2 years for 6 million (3 million a year). I think he is worth that for 15 - 20 minutes a game. But he needs to promise to not play for his country in the offseason. The man isn't done he just isn't close to the Manu we have seen the past 10 years.
    He already said he retired from Int'l play after the olympics. I would give Manu no more than 3 mil a year.
    He is no longer the Manu of old. But he still would be one of the best bench options in the league.

    If were the Spurs, I would sign Mayo to start at SG and resign TMac to play backup SF.

    Move Green into Neal's position of backup PG/SG. Still have Manu run the point, but he will have TMac and Diaw to help him with the facilitator duties as well. Spurs would just have to look for a backup C.

    This is the most the Spurs have had in awhile to improve their roster salary cap wise. And the Spurs pretty much is paying lower than market value of everyone of their players after this season save Matt Bonner, who probably will be trade or bought out.

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    It's pretty clear Manu is destined for the scapegoat tag in the E-N this summer. They'll destroy him down to where he's a minimum contract if he returns at all.
    that is all he is worth
    dude should play 15 minutes a game max

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    Please come back Manu.

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    Manu please retire.

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    Ginobili vs. his past: Why he still has value
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    He understands a sizeable pay cut is coming, just as there was last summer for Duncan. The Spurs won't be bidding against another team. Instead, this will be about finding a reasonable salary, and here's a guess: About $4 million a season for two seasons.
    http://www.expressnews.com/sports/co...6cdfa9927fc3fb

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    $5M a season for Manu max. No trade clause.

    I would hate to see Manu playing against the Spurs.

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    That´s assuming he won´t improve next season.
    Tim didn´t deserve the 10M a year extension when he took it other than being Tim, and we all were aalright with him getting it. Now he is even underpaid. Ginobili can also improve next year ala TD.
    This is exactly what I have been saying. Manu just needs a summer off imo. Regroup and come back re-focused.

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    Very solid article by Buck. There are so many questions it leads to however. Will Manu want to play if its in a reduced role while the guys that he grew up with (TD/TP) are still centerpieces? Is he physically good enough to play (meaning in a reduced role is it worth it to him to go through a rigorous season)?

    I think if he wanted to he could certainly hold the franchise financially hostage. I don't think he would, but the opportunity is there. He should be back, I want him back and Buck was 10000000% right in saying 4M per year is a steal. If that happens that would go a long way for the franchise.

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    I'd love for Manu to comeback but we can't depend on him quite like we used to anymore. I'm not sure Danny Green is a complete SG for us. He's more of a 3-pt specialist with some good defensive instincts. We need to either sign or draft a solid SG/SF this offseason to start taking over Manu's role.

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    Manu will come back refreshed and better than most think he can.

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    Manu will come back refreshed and better than most think he can.
    No he won't. Age has caught up with him.

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    No he won't. Age has caught up with him.
    Yes, he will come back better. You hated on him even in some of his great years.

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    Yes, he will come back better. You hated on him even in some of his great years.
    He hasn't been all that great for years now during the playoffs. Has been injured or played bad. Was one of the worst players last year against OK City, was injured 4 years in a row before that, and cost the le this year.

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    He hasn't been all that great for years now during the playoffs. Has been injured or played bad. Was one of the worst players last year against OK City, was injured 4 years in a row before that, and cost the le this year.
    Pop cost us the le. Pop benched Duncan when we were 28 seconds away from the trophy, he also overplayed Manu when Manu was sucking bad. That's coaching. That's just the truth.

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    Manu keeps getting hurt because he keeps trying to play like he's 25. He doesn't understand pacing himself. Its balls out 150% every possession and this last playoff proves that he cannot play under control and is a huge liability.

    As DPG has said, fair or unfair, this has changed many peoples perception of Manu. I used to think of him as a killer, smart, clutch player. He definitely looks like his bball IQ has dropped tremendously with absolutely stupid turnover and stupid turnover in the clutch, and both of those lead to him going from killer to someone you dont want watching your back in the bunker (in basketball terms).

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