Ginobili: "I'm not planning on retiring"

[Johnny RIngo]

Manu already shunned the NT once, and he already said he won't play for the NT this summer either...

Yes and he deserved all the respect in the world for that decision. Unfortunately, his Argy fanbase guilt tripped him into playing more worthless international basketball at the expense of his NBA team.

Plus I don't buy that line of thinking... Kobe is not a professional? They're all compe ors, tbh...

Kobe's an ironman while Ginobili's one of the most injury prone players of his era. Even Kobe's body gave out this season. Players in their mid-30s shouldn't be playing year-round basketball.

[ElNono]

I've said before, Manu has said plenty of times, this is who I am this is how I play. If that's not gonna change, then no thank you. If the front office can truly get a hold of him and his game, and he's willing to change his game, then he deserves to finish his career with the spurs. Granted that's also at a severely reduced salary. He at least owes the franchise that for giving him the green light on playing for Argentina year after year to the detriment of of their franchise.

His compe iveness isn't going to change, but his game and role in the team already changed a few times, based on what Pop thought he needed... backup SG, starting SG, energy guy from the bench, backup PG...

[spurtech09]

manu just doesn't have it anymore...time to retire

[ElNono]

Yes and he deserved all the respect in the world for that decision. Unfortunately, his Argy fanbase guilt tripped him into playing more worthless international basketball at the expense of his NBA team.

Well, if anything, he's fully aware of his limitations...

Kobe's an ironman while Ginobili's one of the most injury prone players of his era. Even Kobe's body gave out this season. Players in their mid-30s shouldn't be playing year-round basketball.

If you go by what Kobe says, he's injured every two weeks, tbh...

Kobe couldn't walk when the season ended... that doesn't mean he's not a professional. These guys are simply compe ors, and they know they don't get many more chances at glory. Same with TP.

It's the double-edged sword. If they wouldn't be that hungry they wouldn't be who they are.

[Johnny RIngo]

If you go by what Kobe says, he's injured every two weeks, tbh...

Kobe couldn't walk when the season ended... that doesn't mean he's not a professional.

The Kobe comparison is a bad one. He's played at least 34+ minutes(sometimes 40 minutes) per game every season for the last 15 years. Ginobili's only cracked 30 minutes/game twice in his career. Some guys have the durablity for year round ball. Ginobili is not among those players. He struggles with playing 20 min/game these days and has a big injury nearly every year. It was idiotic on his part to play for Argentina when they had no chance of winning anyway.

These guys are simply compe ors, and they know they don't get many more chances at glory. Same with TP.

It's the double-edged sword. If they wouldn't be that hungry they wouldn't be who they are.

Tim gave up international ball almost ten years ago. Does he not count as a compe or either?

[ElNono]

The Kobe comparison is a bad one. He's played at least 34+ minutes(sometimes 40 minutes) per game every season for the last 15 years. Ginobili's only cracked 30 minutes/game twice in his career. Some guys have the durablity for year round ball. Ginobili is not among those players. He struggles with playing 20 min/game these days and has a big injury nearly every year. It was idiotic on his part to play for Argentina when they had no chance of winning anyway.

The comparison is apt when you equate playing in international play with not being professional. It's a terrible strawman.

Tim gave up international ball almost ten years ago. Does he not count as a compe or either?

Tim gave up international play because he didn't like it. Why would he want to compete there if he doesn't enjoy it?

At the end of the day, the Spurs greatly reaped the benefits of foreign players, and still do, (TP, Manu, Oberto, Tiago, Mills, Banes, DeColo, etc) fully aware they all like to compete in international play.

[Skull-1]

I've said before, Manu has said plenty of times, this is who I am this is how I play. If that's not gonna change, then no thank you. If the front office can truly get a hold of him and his game, and he's willing to change his game, then he deserves to finish his career with the spurs. Granted that's also at a severely reduced salary. He at least owes the franchise that for giving him the green light on playing for Argentina year after year to the detriment of of their franchise.

Exactly. Dude needs to learn to stop throwing the fing ball to empty space or the other team. THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THAT.


AND TO HAVE YOUR HIGHEST CAREER TURNOVER GAME IN G6 OF THE FINALS? WTFO?!?!!!!

[Skull-1]

The comparison is apt when you equate playing in international play with not being professional. It's a terrible strawman.



Tim gave up international play because he didn't like it. Why would he want to compete there if he doesn't enjoy it?

At the end of the day, the Spurs greatly reaped the benefits of foreign players, and still do, (TP, Manu, Oberto, Tiago, Mills, Banes, DeColo, etc) fully aware they all like to compete in international play.

Screw that. Spurs pay the salary not the damn loser national teams who will always lose to the dream team. Argentina gold was an outlier.

[ElNono]

Screw that. Spurs pay the salary not the damn loser national teams who will always lose to the dream team. Argentina gold was an outlier.

these guys are one in a million talent. If the Spurs aren't paying their salaries, some other team is. The Spurs knew exactly what they were getting into when they signed these guys, and since they keep signing then, you would suspect they're willing to live with it.

[Skull-1]

these guys are one in a million talent. If the Spurs aren't paying their salaries, some other team is. The Spurs knew exactly what they were getting into when they signed these guys, and since they keep signing then, you would suspect they're willing to live with it.

Well I am not willing to pay millions for Parker and Diaw and Manu to not even medal in the Olympics. Screw that. We lost a le because these azzhats forgot who signs the check...

[ElNono]

Well I am not willing to pay millions for Parker and Diaw and Manu to not even medal in the Olympics. Screw that. We lost a le because these azzhats forgot who signs the check...

Well, you're not writing the checks, so it's a moot point.

[Skull-1]

Well, you're not writing the checks, so it's a moot point.

I write a percentage with all the Spurs stuff I buy so actually the only moot point is your dumb azz...

[ElNono]

I write a percentage with all the Spurs stuff I buy so actually the only moot point is your dumb azz...

RC Bufford doesn't stop for one second to think what 'stuff' you bought before making basketball decisions... he probably wouldn't even piss on you if you were on fire...

[therealtruth]

I'll never forget that Manu's breakfast shot was probably the biggest reason why we overcame Golden State but Manu's pathetic performance in the NBA finals upsets everything good he did earlier.

We were going to lose the Warriors series till Pop reinserts Splitter in the lineup. Then we were going to win the Heat series until Pop pulls Splitter out of the lineup.

[Skull-1]

RC Bufford doesn't stop for one second to think what 'stuff' you bought before making basketball decisions... he probably wouldn't even piss on you if you were on fire...

And your point is what exactly?


There are thousands or millions of us who foot the bill buying tickets and jerseys and stickers. I am sick of people playing for their Olympic teams at the expense of our championship chase. Buford will care when it hits Holt in the wallet you moronic b-tch.

[Skull-1]

We were going to lose the Warriors series till Pop reinserts Splitter in the lineup. Then we were going to win the Heat series until Pop pulls Splitter out of the lineup.

That is some reality right there.

[texmich]

[temujin]

And your point is what exactly?


There are thousands or millions of us who foot the bill buying tickets and jerseys and stickers. I am sick of people playing for their Olympic teams at the expense of our championship chase. Buford will care when it hits Holt in the wallet you moronic b-tch.

Manu winning those medals while being payed by you.

Priceless.

[Skull-1]

Manu winning those medals while being payed by you.

Priceless.

And screwing me over this year. I should burn all the jerseys I have with his name on them. The little communist Argentinian loser just screwed us out of a championship. At least win a bronze medal in exchange u clown!

[ElNono]

And your point is what exactly?

There are thousands or millions of us who foot the bill buying tickets and jerseys and stickers. I am sick of people playing for their Olympic teams at the expense of our championship chase. Buford will care when it hits Holt in the wallet you moronic b-tch.

This sport is about winning and success. There would be a lot less fans otherwise, and heck, maybe not even a team in San Antonio otherwise.

The Spurs understand that they can't just go wallet-happy in a small market, and also understand that there's great value in mining international talent, despite certain drawbacks. They're fully aware of what those drawbacks are, and they still feel they're getting good value. It's hard to argue looking at the results.

But that's why the Spurs run a model franchise while you post tantrums on the interwebs, tbh...

[Skull-1]

This sport is about winning and success. There would be a lot less fans otherwise, and heck, maybe not even a team in San Antonio otherwise.

The Spurs understand that they can't just go wallet-happy in a small market, and also understand that there's great value in mining international talent, despite certain drawbacks. They're fully aware of what those drawbacks are, and they still feel they're getting good value. It's hard to argue looking at the results.

But that's why the Spurs run a model franchise while you post tantrums on the interwebs, tbh...

Yet they are so smart they can't see what my ten-year old daughter sees.... That Manu was killing us. She kept screaming MICHAEL JACKSON every time Leonard was on the screen and OH NO every time Manu was...


You can see her at the end of the 2007 Championship DVD in her pink Manu jersey just before the credits....using her hands as binoculars....

even she could see Manu was sucking. Does Buford not talk to Pop?

wtf?

[ElNono]

Yet they are so smart they can't see what my ten-year old daughter sees.... That Manu was killing us. She kept screaming MICHAEL JACKSON every time Leonard was on the screen and OH NO every time Manu was...

You can see her at the end of the 2007 Championship DVD in her pink Manu jersey just before the credits....using her hands as binoculars....

even she could see Manu was sucking. Does Buford not talk to Pop?

wtf?

They've been trying to find a suitable backup PG all season long. They obviously feel they needed something there. None of the suitors stepped up, so they rolled with what they have.

What are they gonna do? Have Neal dribble the ball against that beast trap?

The Spurs played a team with 4 franchise or former franchise players (Lebron, Wade, Bosh, Allen). The talent gap is ridiculous, and the fact we were able to push them to the brink is certainly no consolation at this mere moment, but in time people will realize how tough is to beat a team like that.

[Slippy]

glad to see he not planning on retiring . When manu wasn't scoring he contributed so many other ways positively. Far outweighs the negatives.

Spurs certainly don't have any ready made players to come in, give them the same play-making ability Manu and Tony offer.

People want to see KY grow, then having manu on board is a must. KY's game will suffer if he no feeding off guys like Manu. Same goes if you want to see the system click offensively .

[Skull-1]

They've been trying to find a suitable backup PG all season long. They obviously feel they needed something there. None of the suitors stepped up, so they rolled with what they have.

What are they gonna do? Have Neal dribble the ball against that beast trap?

The Spurs played a team with 4 franchise or former franchise players (Lebron, Wade, Bosh, Allen). The talent gap is ridiculous, and the fact we were able to push them to the brink is certainly no consolation at this mere moment, but in time people will realize how tough is to beat a team like that.

neal sucks on the dribble when pressured but apparently Manu cannot dribble when he isn't pressured!

manu blew it. No excuses. Serious mental diarrhea.....cost us a ring.

[ElNono]

neal sucks on the dribble when pressured but apparently Manu cannot dribble when he isn't pressured!

manu blew it. No excuses. Serious mental diarrhea.....cost us a ring.

Apparently Manu can play like a god the game before, and then be an absolute turd. That's new.

Neal being unable to dribble a basket, that's not new at all.

Manu definitely blew it in Game 6, and he had overall a poor series. I'm not going to excuse any of that.

But the Spurs have definitely been trying to address the backup PG situation unsuccessfully for at least a season now.