Mike and Mike - "Lakers will be a threat next year, I dont see the Spurs though"

[Kidd K]

I posted a thread about this a few days ago. I asked what the odds were that Pop would rest his players to give them 3 full days off before game 7. I took the position that the Spurs could have a better shot to win game 7 at 100% rather than playing game 6 at 90%, losing, then playing game 7 at 75% due to 3 games in 5 nights. I heard no rational argument to the contrary, just typical spurstalk venom.

I have to say it was refreshing to see a national expert like Skip Bayless agree with me. I mean, if Pop thinks its a sound strategy to use, then why not use it when it matters the most, the NBA Finals.

If you got venom it was because it's a dumb idea dude.

Only a fool would throw away a game 6 just to "have a slightly better chance" in game 7. If you throw away game 6, the Heat get to rest by not having to play as hard too. You realize that don't you? By throwing away game 6 you pretty much cut your chances of winning a le in half and double the Heat's odds. Heat get a free win then only need to really fight for one more. Then the Spurs lose one of their two chances. It's a terrible, terrible idea.

You rest guys during the regular season so they're rested for the postseason, not in the NBA Finals when you're one win away from winning a le. >_>

[callo1]

The media created this monster and now they are dealing with it. This is what you get for calling a guy "The King" before he even made it to the championship round. I have nothing wrong with people calling LeBron a great player, or even best in the world. A lot of times, he is that good. But his en led at ude has extended to his teammates, Heat "fans" and of course the media who constantly talks him up.

LeBron James is a great basketball player, but he's not perfect and there aren't five of him on the court at once. He's gotten help from his teammates in the games they've won, so you can't pin this on the Heat's other players like you could the Cavs in 2007. The Spurs have beaten them in the three games they've won. An acquaintance of mine, and I say that loosely because he's a gigantic LeBron sucking bag, said the Heat let the Spurs win Game 1. Really? They were leading the game for 3 and a half quarters and just let the Spurs seal the game on a clutch run in the 4th? Bet you still have a Cleveland #23 jersey.

Sports aren't fair. Life isn't fair. You work hard and get back what you put into it. Sometimes somebody else puts in more and beats you. That's how it ing works.

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[hater]

awesome

who the are mike n mike?

sound like a couple of gays to me IMO

nothing wrong with that btw

[chrhawk]

These are the same guys that said Golden State was the better team after two games, then David Robinson and Sean Elliott came on their show and set them straight. Them and most of the other ESPN personalities believe when the Heat win it's because their compe ion didn't stand a chance and when they lose it's because they weren't trying.

[ThaBigFundamental21]

BTW, Mike and Mike are idiots. The Lakers??? Kobe one year older. It's likely he still plays well, but the achilles? could slow him down. Nash is ancient, you can't really take Nash serious anymore. Dwight, if he stays. If Dwight leaves, the Lakers are probably a 35 win team. Those guys just need to shut up. The chemistry issue isn't going anywhere soon. Meta Word Peace? Does he get amnestied??? If not, he is just another year older. Gasol isn't getting any younger. The team struggled this season, next year I don't see anything getting magically better. Especially not with D'antoni. The Lakers will probably implode IMHO, if he stays as coach. The Lakers have so many question marks.

As for the Spurs, the Spurs are likely to have some money. We are going to add someone who can help. Which direction we go, that's a wait and see scenario.

[Mark in Austin]

regardless of what happens these last 2 games, I relish the thought of a SA-OKC series next year. W/o Harden, OKC isn't the same team, no matter what their record states.

[ThaBigFundamental21]

regardless of what happens these last 2 games, I relish the thought of a SA-OKC series next year. W/o Harden, OKC isn't the same team, no matter what their record states.

Yep, we know that. A lot of folks know that. Only the Spurs detractors really believe the Thunder are as good without arguably their 2nd best player.

[BeakersBro]

As much as I like their show - they can't even spell "NBA". They are football guys.

[Keepin' it real]

If you got venom it was because it's a dumb idea dude.

Only a fool would throw away a game 6 just to "have a slightly better chance" in game 7. If you throw away game 6, the Heat get to rest by not having to play as hard too. You realize that don't you? By throwing away game 6 you pretty much cut your chances of winning a le in half and double the Heat's odds. Heat get a free win then only need to really fight for one more. Then the Spurs lose one of their two chances. It's a terrible, terrible idea.

You rest guys during the regular season so they're rested for the postseason, not in the NBA Finals when you're one win away from winning a le. >_>

Believe me, I understand what you're saying.

Let's see how it plays out. If the Spurs win tonight, then of course even considering resting the starters will be viewed as a bad idea. But if the Spurs lose and Tim/Manu look drained and subsequently play poorly in game 7, or if Tony's hamstring gives out tonight, then people will question whether Pop should have rested his star players, knowing their advanced age (Tim/Manu) and questionable health (Tony).

The emotional part of me says play everyone big minutes and win the le tonight. The practical part of me says for this specific Spurs team, resting the starters is not as dumb of an idea as you might think.

What will piss me off more than anything is if everyone plays, but then Pop pulls them out at the first sign of significant adversity (double-digit lead, for example). If everyone's gonna play, then play them. Don't give up. That would accomplish nothing.

[DejuanorwhatDude]

Believe me, I understand what you're saying.

Let's see how it plays out. If the Spurs win tonight, then of course even considering resting the starters will be viewed as a bad idea. But if the Spurs lose and Tim/Manu look drained and subsequently play poorly in game 7, or if Tony's hamstring gives out tonight, then people will question whether Pop should have rested his star players, knowing their advanced age (Tim/Manu) and questionable health (Tony).

The emotional part of me says play everyone big minutes and win the le tonight. The practical part of me says for this specific Spurs team, resting the starters is not as dumb of an idea as you might think.

What will piss me off more than anything is if everyone plays, but then Pop pulls them out at the first sign of significant adversity (double-digit lead, for example). If everyone's gonna play, then play them. Don't give up. That would accomplish nothing.

Under no cir stances would any coach rest any starter if all they had to do was win one game, if they're at all healthy. The only bigger stage is if the Spurs don't win tonight.

[ohmwrecker]

Neither one of those guys know about basketball, but the Spurs will not be this good next year if they stand pat.

[Hoops Czar]

Mike and Mike know nothing about the NBA. They're not too bad with the NFL, but otherwise they have nothing of interest to say.

Unless they're dissing your team.

[GSH]

I read the comments this morning - I didn't expect this much response. You guys do realize that they are admitting that they think the Spurs got this Championship? That's the reason they've already moved on to pissing on their NEXT season. They think this one is out of reach.

"Okay, fine... the Spurs are going to win the Championship this year. But they aren't going to repeat."

[KaiRMD1]

I lost it with the "it's not fair" comment

[Kidd K]

Believe me, I understand what you're saying.

Let's see how it plays out. If the Spurs win tonight, then of course even considering resting the starters will be viewed as a bad idea. But if the Spurs lose and Tim/Manu look drained and subsequently play poorly in game 7, or if Tony's hamstring gives out tonight, then people will question whether Pop should have rested his star players, knowing their advanced age (Tim/Manu) and questionable health (Tony).

The emotional part of me says play everyone big minutes and win the le tonight. The practical part of me says for this specific Spurs team, resting the starters is not as dumb of an idea as you might think.

What will piss me off more than anything is if everyone plays, but then Pop pulls them out at the first sign of significant adversity (double-digit lead, for example). If everyone's gonna play, then play them. Don't give up. That would accomplish nothing.

I don't think losing in game 6 in any way would prove that they should have tanked the game. You have to go all out every game at this point in the playoffs. You can't take it for granted. If the Spurs "rested" for game 6 then lost game 7, it would go down as the dumbest coaching decision in NBA history. They would have just thrown the le away.

If Parker's hamstring goes out tonight, that doesn't mean it wouldn't have in 2 days. Honestly, nothing that'd happen tonight could prove that Pop could've rested guys and thrown away the game. And I really don't think much of anybody will question why Pop didn't rest the guys. You simply cannot throw away one of your two chances to win a le just for a perceivably better chance in the last game.

Hate to be so hard on you man, but in no reality can I see resting your stars when you're up 3-2 in the Finals just to be slightly more rested for game 7 being a good idea. You're just throwing away two chances for one, giving the Heat all their confidence back, and putting even more pressure on the Spurs to win game 7.

[rascal]

If the SAS wins this, all those ESPN guys will use the 24 hour rule. They'll talk about it for one day because they have to, and move on to the Dwight Howard story. They want the Spurs to go away, plain and simple.

Why should they talk about it anymore then 24 hours, no story line. The Spurs with the same core have won before, people just don't care.

[Cane]

The Mike Brown and Mike D'Antoni show was pretty entertaining

[rascal]

"Okay, fine... the Spurs are going to win the Championship this year. But they aren't going to repeat."

You have that right. No way they even get to the finals next year.

[SpursDynasty21]

That show just lost all credibility by saying this.

[bluebellmaniac]

Greenberg and Golic can talk intelligently about the NFL and MLB, but it is very obvious when the topic of the NBA comes up that neither really has a clue as to what is going on, which teams are good or who's having a good year (etc). They have a third guy (I forget his name) who they refer to for input on the NBA. When the Knicks had a 3 or 4 game winning streak he tried to put them up there as a threat to the Heat. The vast majority of what they have to say about the NBA is for the sole purpose of pandering to the large market teams. They are there to make BSPN money, so don't expect them to jump on a small market bandwagon.

We're okay without their uninformed support.