The end of Bonner era?

[silverblk mystix]

splitter had plenty of opportunity to prove that they can stay with their usual lineup, pop refused to matchup with the heat's small ball initially but i dont think there's any question splitter didnt play well enough to continue that route, the first game heat started miller, splitter committed two mental mistakes within the first 20 secs or so of the game, maybe in the past couple of years splitter would sit out the rest of the series but he had more opportunities to redeem himself

splitter continuously made the wrong decisions when he got the ball off the pocket pass the rest of the game and well the rest of the series really, and when you consider that he has to guard a rejuvenated d wade on the other end?

I don't know if we watched the same series...here is what I saw;

Mike Miller starts.....20 secs or less Splitter fouls Wade....and that was the end of the TD/Tiago tandem.

The rest of the series was Splitter coming in to give Timmy a rest. (I am grateful at least that Pop didn't completely bury Tiago the rest of the series like the last two years - but still - the TD/Tiago pairing had gotten the job done all season and Pop didn't trust them)

[jbspurs]

Can't wait!!

[siraulo23]

I don't know if we watched the same series...here is what I saw;

Mike Miller starts.....20 secs or less Splitter fouls Wade....and that was the end of the TD/Tiago tandem.

The rest of the series was Splitter coming in to give Timmy a rest. (I am grateful at least that Pop didn't completely bury Tiago the rest of the series like the last two years - but still - the TD/Tiago pairing had gotten the job done all season and Pop didn't trust them)

splitter's back court violation as soon as the ball was tipped, then commited prolly the only thing you should never do when guarding d wade the 1st play of the game? his head wasnt in the game

the series wasnt for him, the spurs had the opportunity to win the series without him playing elite so i really dont blame him but it was a bad matchup imo

, just realized this is a bonner thread... oops

[Leetonidas]

Pop finally proved that he won't play Bonner in the POs when it matters, at least I don't remember screaming at the TV when Bonner was in anyway. For a vet min I'd like Bonner back, he's good depth and insurance and rains threes during the regular season allowing for invaluable rest for Tim. As long as he stays in the role he's been in and doesn't play anymore than 10-15mpg

[HemisfairArena]

I would trade Bonner and Splitter right now for Asik. Asik is 26 and a double/double machine and the Rockets will be looking to trade him with Howard coming to town. That tells you what I think about Splitter and Bonner. Asik is a great player.

[Leetonidas]

I don't know if we watched the same series...here is what I saw;

Mike Miller starts.....20 secs or less Splitter fouls Wade....and that was the end of the TD/Tiago tandem.

The rest of the series was Splitter coming in to give Timmy a rest. (I am grateful at least that Pop didn't completely bury Tiago the rest of the series like the last two years - but still - the TD/Tiago pairing had gotten the job done all season and Pop didn't trust them)

After Splitter got his stuffed in Game 2 it was over for him, you could see he was never confident out there as evidenced by him constantly getting blocked/stripped by smaller players in the post. Splitter really shat the bed against Miami, that's not Pop's fault. He turned the ball over the second the game started and fouled Wade. Inexcusable

[coyotes_geek]

Bonnerwatch 2013 is in full swing. An already emotionally unstable fan base will have a handful of pills in one hand and a razor in the other if Bonner's contract becomes guaranteed.

Win-win situation TBH...

[silverblk mystix]

After Splitter got his stuffed in Game 2 it was over for him, you could see he was never confident out there as evidenced by him constantly getting blocked/stripped by smaller players in the post. Splitter really shat the bed against Miami, that's not Pop's fault. He turned the ball over the second the game started and fouled Wade. Inexcusable

Well, one thing's for sure - he didn't the bed as badly as Pop the bed. Pop defecated all over the in bedroom tbh.

[texmich]

[Kindergarten Cop]

Another option with Bonner would be to push back his guaranteed deadline by a couple of weeks and then amnesty him in July. If Spurs are serious about going after free agents with their cap space, that's the best solution.

Why would the Spurs waste their opportunity to use the Amnesty provision on Bonner? Do you really think that it would be worth the extra $1M of cap space? I think there are more realistic and financially beneficial ways to shed his cap space than using the provision.

[Chinook]

Why would the Spurs waste their opportunity to use the Amnesty provision on Bonner? Do you really think that it would be worth the extra $1M of cap space? I think there are more realistic and financially beneficial ways to shed his cap space than using the provision.

It's him or Parker now. And since the Spurs aren't going to amnesty Parker, there's no reason NOT to use it on Bonner.

[TheGoldStandard]

Tiago is maxed out offensively, don't see him all of a sudden discovering post moves, don't want him taking jumpers as there would be nobody to rebound the ball and I doubt defenders will really run out to stop him. His Pick N Roll game only exists with Manu because Parker doesn't trust him and it's easily stopped if you rotate and catch him early in his roll he just stops dead in his tracks and has no where to go and usually turns the ball over. Don't see why we should invest money in that..

[Texas_Ranger]

27 hours left... just do it!!!

[Johnsyounger]

LMAO.

Howard
Marc Gasol
Hibbert
Cousins
Lopez
Noah
Chandler
Monroe
Davis
Duncan
ZBO
West
Dirk
Love
Griffin

...thats 15 players right there that are better than Splitter and Bonner and I only scratched the surface. What do you mean no more good big men in the league?

Just sign em up then eh? Ill take Gasol and Dirk. That shouldn't be a problem??

[Johnsyounger]

And not one of those guys is a top 10 player.

[Johnsyounger]

Except Duncan

[Kindergarten Cop]

It's him or Parker now. And since the Spurs aren't going to amnesty Parker, there's no reason NOT to use it on Bonner.

I forgot that Bonner and Parker were the only players eligible for the provision.

With that being said, would saving $3M in real money count as a reason not to use it on Bonner. I know it's easier for us (the fans) to say that the $1M cap savings outweigh the money still spent after using the amnesty clause on Bonner, but most owners don't view it in the same light.

[Duncanonu]

They won't do it, but man do I wish they would.

[Chinook]

I forgot that Bonner and Parker were the only players eligible for the provision.

With that being said, would saving $3M in real money count as a reason not to use it on Bonner. I know it's easier for us (the fans) to say that the $1M cap savings outweigh the money still spent after using the amnesty clause on Bonner, but most owners don't view it in the same light.

If Bonner agrees to push back his guarantee date, then it WON'T cost the Spurs that extra $3 Million. It may cost a couple hundred thousand more (for Bonner's trouble), but it wouldn't cost more than that if he agrees to alter his contract like McDyess did.

[therealtruth]

Well - this much had already been proven IMO;

Tiago was shaky his first two seasons - but anyone could see that -when given playing time - he excelled. When jerked around - his game went to and he became unsure.

Season 3 - he gets steady playing time and a starting position- he excels again - beyond expectations.

In the finals - he gets jerked around again and his play suffers again.

Could the coach have had anything to do with that? Plus Miami was pretty good on their defensive rotations.

I agree. Pop stuck with Ginobili long enough for him to throw the championship away. People focus on the wrong thing with Splitter. It's not about the offense. It's about the defense and the stats don't lie. We're much better defensively with him on the floor. Offense can always be figured out. The reality is by going away from Splitter Pop was abandoning the improved defense that even put them in this position. He talked so much about getting better this year defensively. Then when faced with a challenge he abandons a big part of that defense.

[Kindergarten Cop]

If Bonner agrees to push back his guarantee date, then it WON'T cost the Spurs that extra $3 Million. It may cost a couple hundred thousand more (for Bonner's trouble), but it wouldn't cost more than that if he agrees to alter his contract like McDyess did.

I think I understand what you are saying now - if Bonner agrees to push back his guarantee date and the Spurs amnesty him before that date, they only have to pay him the $1M portion of his deal and that amount will not count against the cap (best of both worlds for the Spurs), right?

[TheGoldStandard]

I agree. Pop stuck with Ginobili long enough for him to throw the championship away. People focus on the wrong thing with Splitter. It's not about the offense. It's about the defense and the stats don't lie. We're much better defensively with him on the floor. Offense can always be figured out. The reality is by going away from Splitter Pop was abandoning the improved defense that even put them in this position. He talked so much about getting better this year defensively. Then when faced with a challenge he abandons a big part of that defense.

Tiago is not a problem when he's on the floor with Tim he can play defense and he's not the focal point of the offense when he's in the starting line up but since they are short bigs when he comes off the bench with the 2nd unit he's a large part of the offense with Pick N Roll and he plain sucks at it if he's not 3 feet from the basket when he gets the ball. The offense is a problem especially with this team getting older, minutes needing to stay low for the other bigs and he's not worth the price tag.

[spursfan4ever]

^ good point! Splitter must somehow develop a shot beyond 3ft from the rim to become effective in this offense. Instead of going down home to brazil he needs to stay in S.A. to work with Chip all summer or take chip down there to brazil to work with him if he decides on signing back with the Spurs. .

[benefactor]

Tick, tock, tick, tock......

[Texas_Ranger]

6+ hours left and it looks like Bonner will be getting 4M next year. How nice.