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    6+ hours left and it looks like Bonner will be getting 4M next year. How nice.
    Pop is shaken, no way he lets his lover get away in his current state, he needs all the comfort he can get.

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    Even if he's not waived, they can amnesty him (which seems less likely than waiving him because it's an extra 3M cost for the Spurs) barring him not doing what Chinook/Bruno said.

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    Even if he's not waived, they can amnesty him (which seems less likely than waiving him because it's an extra 3M cost for the Spurs) barring him not doing what Chinook/Bruno said.
    Well if Bonner is staying, I hope they let Splitter go. We need to see what Baynes brings to the table with consistent playing time.

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    I'm about to be so upset.

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    i thought it was a lock he wouldn't be brought back

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    Again, just because he's not waived does not mean he will be back. They could be working on a trade, they might be working on him pushing back his deadline or they might just be planning on using the amnesty provision on him. There is this though:



    This is from Jeff McDonald with regards to Bonner.

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    If nothing happens in the next 4 hours and change we may as well wave goodbye to any possible free agents we could have had. How devastating and idiotic.

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    If nothing happens in the next 4 hours and change we may as well wave goodbye to any possible free agents we could have had. How devastating and idiotic.
    Why do you say that?

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    Why do you say that?

    Because we're not about to amnesty Bonner. If he makes it to 12 then he's obviously in our future plans. That'll leave us at around 16 million for free agency, and Tiago and Manu are commanding 12 to 13 million easily. That leaves us at around 3 to 4 million which probably wouldn't even net us a guy like Aminu.

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    Tiago's money is largely irrelevant with regards to cap space. The only way it matters would be in a positive way (meaning he takes less than his cap hold, or the Spurs let him go freeing up that cap hold amount). The real difference maker is Bonner and how much Manu gets.

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    They wont amnesty him. Spurs don't spend 3M just like that.... That means he'll stay and get paid 4M for being probably our 5th big. Amazing!!

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    Tiago's money is largely irrelevant with regards to cap space. The only way it matters would be in a positive way (meaning he takes less than his cap hold, or the Spurs let him go freeing up that cap hold amount). The real difference maker is Bonner and how much Manu gets.

    And how much would you assume Manu gets? I say between 4 and 5M, but probably somewhere in between with 5M being the max amount. However, I wouldn't be surprised if Manu got a little over 6 knowing R.C.

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    They wont amnesty him. Spurs don't spend 3M just like that.... That means he'll stay and get paid 4M for being probably our 5th big. Amazing!!

    Yeah, Peter Holt isn't about to just eat 3M. He's clearly not a Russian billionaire.

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    Just taking a pretty wild guess, I say Manu gets 6M per year (so either 2 year/12M or 3 year/18M). Under that scenario if Bonner sticks and they don't do any trades, Spurs have about 2M. If Bonner is amnestied, that goes to 6M.

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    Spurs master plan:

    Give Splitter 10M, Manu 7M, Neal 3M.

    This wouldn't surprise me one bit, but it would put me on suicide watch.

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    Well if Bonner is staying, I hope they let Splitter go. We need to see what Baynes brings to the table with consistent playing time.
    If you like Baynes more than Splitter, at this point, you're in the realm of fandom where NBA GMs dare not tread.

    Splitter has established value around the NBA.

    Baynes has some upside, but he could also be the white Mahinmi.

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    Just taking a pretty wild guess, I say Manu gets 6M per year (so either 2 year/12M or 3 year/18M). Under that scenario if Bonner sticks and they don't do any trades, Spurs have about 2M. If Bonner is amnestied, that goes to 6M.

    No way Manu gets a long term deal like 3 year/18M. If anything, he'll get 2 year/12M, with the 2nd year being a player option. I honestly don't see him returning after this year, unfortunately.

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    Keeping Bonner is a disgrace.

    They can't do more than the MLE with Bonner's salary. Unless they've already agreed to pay Splitter more than 10 a year to start and know that Manu is demanding a sizable sum. Even then, Bonner doesn't help the team win at all. He is an anchor on Duncan's feet.

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    If Manu gets anywhere near a 6 or 7 mil/yr deal...our front office has had an epic fail. Who pays 6-7 mil for an old injury prone SG that is more of a liability than an asset?

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    No way Manu gets a long term deal like 3 year/18M. If anything, he'll get 2 year/12M, with the 2nd year being a player option. I honestly don't see him returning after this year, unfortunately.
    Keep in mind that when you have cap space, you can absorb money in trades. So let's say Bonner is amenstied and Manu signs for 6M. With that 6M in cap space you can either sign a FA or trade for someone and absorb ~6.5M in a trade. If you include a player with that (say Diaw) you can trade for a player making 10M+.

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    Spurs master plan:

    Give Splitter 10M, Manu 7M, Neal 3M.

    This wouldn't surprise me one bit, but it would put me on suicide watch.
    This is where loyalty turns into obsession.

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    Tiago needs to box. He needs to try to get shots up while they are hitting him with pads, etc. That should be part of his training regimen, I think, IMHO. He also need to learn how to clear out with one hand while dunking, so no more iconic blocks by LeBron.

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    Keep in mind that when you have cap space, you can absorb money in trades. So let's say Bonner is amenstied and Manu signs for 6M. With that 6M in cap space you can either sign a FA or trade for someone and absorb ~6.5M in a trade. If you include a player with that (say Diaw) you can trade for a player making 10M+.
    That totally slipped my mind, but even then Bonner is our biggest asset. That being said, the only teams that would take on his salary would be teams looking to tank for the 2014 draft, and those teams have nothing to offer. Unless we could net a Jeff Green out of Boston which is quite unlikely I suppose.

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    Even if he's not waived, they can amnesty him (which seems less likely than waiving him because it's an extra 3M cost for the Spurs) barring him not doing what Chinook/Bruno said.
    Yeah if the don't cut him, id doubt they amnesty him because you'd be agreeing to pay almost four million off the cap instead of just paying $1 million. Unless the Spurs are looking to be players in the off season and need all available cap space.

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