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    Doesn't make sense to pick a PG with Corey Joseph around. There's no one out there who is going to be a sure - or even good - bet to be better.
    True, they should sign a last legs vet PG for insurance, but there are so many people still under contract.

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    Spurs will have a quality backup PG next season with Joseph. I don't see the point of drafting Green so I don't buy that rumor.

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    I was one of those people freaking out about Hill over CDR. But I didn't know anything about Hill. After I researched I cooled down and came around on Hill.

    With Green I was able to watch about 4 of Green's ACC games last night through the ESPN Xbox app. The guy has everything but a left hand at the rim and defense, but both could be be coached up. Passing, shooting, pick & roll, transition, early offense, off the dribble, off curls, spot up, catch & shoot, end-of-shot-clock rush shots, drawing fouls, court vision for passing off the pick- he's got everyone covered, no tunnel vision, low dribble. He has an incredible work ethic, and solid character. The work he's put into his game in a volatile situation like VT has had, with bad players and suspect coaching around him, speak incredibly highly for his future with good players and great player development coaching around him. He's a gym rat and the stories told of his ethic during the games added to the results were what anyone would want.

    I'll have my fingers crossed for him.

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    I was one of those people freaking out about Hill over CDR. But I didn't know anything about Hill. After I researched I cooled down and came around on Hill.

    With Green I was able to watch about 4 of Green's ACC games last night through the ESPN Xbox app. The guy has everything but a left hand at the rim and defense, but both could be be coached up. Passing, shooting, pick & roll, transition, early offense, off the dribble, off curls, spot up, catch & shoot, end-of-shot-clock rush shots, drawing fouls, court vision for passing off the pick- he's got everyone covered, no tunnel vision, low dribble. He has an incredible work ethic, and solid character. The work he's put into his game in a volatile situation like VT has had, with bad players and suspect coaching around him, speak incredibly highly for his future with good players and great player development coaching around him. He's a gym rat and the stories told of his ethic during the games added to the results were what anyone would want.

    I'll have my fingers crossed for him.
    sounds good to me...don't know what all the fuss is about....green sounds like an all around good player to me

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    I was one of those people freaking out about Hill over CDR. But I didn't know anything about Hill. After I researched I cooled down and came around on Hill.

    With Green I was able to watch about 4 of Green's ACC games last night through the ESPN Xbox app. The guy has everything but a left hand at the rim and defense, but both could be be coached up. Passing, shooting, pick & roll, transition, early offense, off the dribble, off curls, spot up, catch & shoot, end-of-shot-clock rush shots, drawing fouls, court vision for passing off the pick- he's got everyone covered, no tunnel vision, low dribble. He has an incredible work ethic, and solid character. The work he's put into his game in a volatile situation like VT has had, with bad players and suspect coaching around him, speak incredibly highly for his future with good players and great player development coaching around him. He's a gym rat and the stories told of his ethic during the games added to the results were what anyone would want.

    I'll have my fingers crossed for him.
    green will be a steal.............

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    Watched the whole video...pretty much every highlight was in transition. The NBA game is a lot slower than college. The reality is that he's a 6'3 two-guard. He's going to be like Danny Green except without the defense.

    Would be very disappointed if we drafted him. He has heart, and I know he can score, but he couldn't play back-up pg (which we desperately need) and he's just a liability defensively. He would have to transition to playing off the ball...and become a spot up shooter. Why not get somebody taller if that's the case...I just don't understand the Spurs...

    And if we draft him then were definitely going all out to keep freakin Tiago Splitter. Seriously think this is a bad move. This guy simply doesn't have enough tangibles to help us win a le. Either get size on the wing, a big man, or a true back-up PG like Wolters or don't get anybody and just trade the goddamn 1st round pick so you don't have to give a guaranteed contract.

    One other thing. Why the wouldn't we trade this pick to the second round and then draft Green if that's what were going to do? Nobody else is going to take him until the middle of the second round. I mean I'm praying that someone picks this guy up before we do but I know it's not gunna happen. I think for once the rest of the NBA is right about a player and were the one's this time who are wrong.

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    Spurs will have a quality backup PG next season with Joseph. I don't see the point of drafting Green so I don't buy that rumor.
    Woj is the most reliable source in the nba, if he says they worked him out twice I fully believe it.

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    ^Don't count on the Spurs drafting anybody anyone says they're likely to draft.

    When they said "Cory Joseph", I was like.. who?

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    Woj is the most reliable source in the nba, if he says they worked him out twice I fully believe it.
    There is a big gap between working out a player twice an making a promise. If Woj said it, it's quite a given he worked out twice but I don't buy Spurs tying their hands by having made a promise.
    Green has worked out for 17 teams. I don't see the point for Spurs to make a promise to a player that all the other teams have seen.

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    More than likely Green's camp trying to drum up interest and avoid their client falling out of the 1st. Seriously pretty much never hear about the Spurs promising a player.

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    There is a big gap between working out a player twice an making a promise. If Woj said it, it's quite a given he worked out twice but I don't buy Spurs tying their hands by having made a promise.
    Green has worked out for 17 teams. I don't see the point for Spurs to make a promise to a player that all the other teams have seen.
    Oh I agree completely with you then.

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    Watched the whole video...pretty much every highlight was in transition. The NBA game is a lot slower than college. The reality is that he's a 6'3 two-guard. He's going to be like Danny Green except without the defense.

    Would be very disappointed if we drafted him. He has heart, and I know he can score, but he couldn't play back-up pg (which we desperately need) and he's just a liability defensively. He would have to transition to playing off the ball...and become a spot up shooter. Why not get somebody taller if that's the case...I just don't understand the Spurs...

    And if we draft him then were definitely going all out to keep freakin Tiago Splitter. Seriously think this is a bad move. This guy simply doesn't have enough tangibles to help us win a le. Either get size on the wing, a big man, or a true back-up PG like Wolters or don't get anybody and just trade the goddamn 1st round pick so you don't have to give a guaranteed contract.

    One other thing. Why the wouldn't we trade this pick to the second round and then draft Green if that's what were going to do? Nobody else is going to take him until the middle of the second round. I mean I'm praying that someone picks this guy up before we do but I know it's not gunna happen. I think for once the rest of the NBA is right about a player and were the one's this time who are wrong.
    He's not just a transition player. He's good in the half-court. He runs the pick&roll pretty well. For himself to score and others. And not just the roll man, his vision and passing skills mean he can pass out and over to three point shooters, or in to a big man. He's a lot more 'point guard' than George Hill was.

    I have no idea about a 'promise', and I doubt it happened. But for where they're picking in the draft, going bpa is a fair choice. And if he is the bpa, then you take him, regardless of duplication.

    Anyone they pick probably won't rise above 12th man or d-league assignment next year anyway, and I could see Green with the Spurs development system becoming a useful asset like Hill was.

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    At 28, you draft whoever you think is an NBA player -- even if it's a 6-foot-3 combo guard who isn't exactly a great fit.

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    damn timvp, why that avatar?

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    He's not just a transition player. He's good in the half-court. He runs the pick&roll pretty well. For himself to score and others. And not just the roll man, his vision and passing skills mean he can pass out and over to three point shooters, or in to a big man. He's a lot more 'point guard' than George Hill was.

    I have no idea about a 'promise', and I doubt it happened. But for where they're picking in the draft, going bpa is a fair choice. And if he is the bpa, then you take him, regardless of duplication.

    Anyone they pick probably won't rise above 12th man or d-league assignment next year anyway, and I could see Green with the Spurs development system becoming a useful asset like Hill was.
    I could see him fitting into the spurs system, sure. But he won't ever be a difference maker for us. Especially not with this core of guys in the twilight of their careers. A big man or a wing with size could help this team immediately...the biggest issue I have with taking this guy is that we just don't need him right now. Unless somehow he can play back-up PG...which I just don't see happening because the PG in the Spurs system basically runs the offense. And I've seen Green play at VT a lot being a die-hard college basketball fan. He really struggles finding open teammates and is definitely NOT an elite ball handler. This feels like a wasted pick. It will be to simply replace Gary Neal. And Gary Neal is better than him.

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    Timvp going emo.

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    Have you heard any Spurs related rumors?
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    No. And if I did, I wouldn't believe them. The Spurs are the quietest team in the league. Rudy Gobert seems like a really good fit if he's on the board. Ditto for Mike Muscala of Bucknell.
    http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/48342

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    Develop Joseph. Cory has the tools to be a better offensive player than he is. He's already a competent finisher, and he can shoot pretty well. Maybe letting him run the team during the summer league and giving him the green light will help be less passive.
    http://www.nba.com/dleague/playerfile/cory_joseph/

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    LOL You realize that you just named 3 players - one a 2nd rounder - who have all been great picks in the past 5 years? Do you realize that you left off Corey Joseph who is definitely showing signs and was a late 1st rounder? Do you realize that the Spurs drafted Tiago Splitter the year before Hill? You also left off Nando as a 2nd round pick which has turned into a serviceable player.

    This post I'm quoting is a prime example at how ing utterly stupid and spoiled Spursfan is. I challenge you to find a team picking as late in the draft as the Spurs over that period who has had as much success finding NBA players.
    Have we found another good player like Manu or Tony Parker that can lead us to a championship outside of Kawhi Leonard? No so STFU.

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    Have we found another good player like Manu or Tony Parker that can lead us to a championship outside of Kawhi Leonard? No so STFU.
    Is this a serious post?

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    Have we found another good player like Manu or Tony Parker that can lead us to a championship outside of Kawhi Leonard? No so STFU.
    Do you know how many teams outside of the Spurs have found players of that caliber at any position in the draft? Not very many.

    Especially as the 57th and 28th pick, those kind of players are once in a lifetime.

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    The Spurs haven't found franchise level potential in the draft since two years ago!

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    Is this a serious post?
    Do you know how many teams outside of the Spurs have found players of that caliber at any position in the draft? Not very many.

    Especially as the 57th and 28th pick, those kind of players are once in a lifetime.
    The Spurs haven't found franchise level potential in the draft since two years ago!
    Learn how to read you morons. "Have we found another good player like Manu or Tony Parker that can lead us to a championship outside of Kawhi Leonard? No, so STFU. That's right. Where is Dejuan Blair now? Where is George Hill now? LOL @ Tiago Splitter getting blocked by midgets. Nando... LMAO @ a guy who bitc*es about his minutes. He's going into Pop's dog house that's for sure or he's out of SA. Just ask Malik Rose, Dejan Blair, and S Jax what happens when you complain about minutes to Pop. You guys are the true definition of Homers.

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    At 28, you draft whoever you think is an NBA player -- even if it's a 6-foot-3 combo guard who isn't exactly a great fit.
    Out of subject but timvp, your avatar is depressing.

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    Learn how to read you morons. "Have we found another good player like Manu or Tony Parker that can lead us to a championship outside of Kawhi Leonard? No so STFU.
    Yeah, I read it right.

    My post stands, your meltdown makes it better tbh.

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