No!
Green while not a perfect defender and makes a lot of mistakes he is still a GREAT defender, he's not as good guarding SG's but where he excels is at guarding combo/PG's, that's where he plays ELITE defense.
He held Curry to what, 2-19? When he switched to Jack who had been killing us he took him out easy. He's guarded CP3 and did a great job on him last year, etc. This guy can can lock combo/PG's down because of his quickness and speed. He's a really valuable player to have. The NBA is loaded with great PG's, Lawson, Paul, Jack, Rubio, Westbrook, Rose etc.
Green guarding that player allows Parker to take a break defensively, where they can hide him on a not so good SG instead of him running through multiple screens or chasing the ball handler all over the floor.
Green has also proven he can play in the playoffs, this is where the intensity turns up. Where some guys fold under pressure (Bonner), others step up their game (Green). Things become 10x harder, the game speeds up, and if you fail to execute or turn it over the other team will score. This guy was setting a 3pt series record in the finals!
Evans taking the SG spot in the Spurs line up is a video game scenario. If the FO can afford it they would do it just like they cut S.Jackson. yes, green is serviceable, but he can't get higher than his ceiling and in the near future /almost right now/ Spurs will need much more from that 2 spot /because of Manu shrinking/
Who else is likely to be in the market for Evans?
I'll sign him but I wouldn't trade Green. We need to pick a guy like Tyreke up to generate offense for the bench. Manu can't do that anymore. We won't be able to win with ten terrible bench minutes in the playoffs.
Really the discussion should be should we pay manu or put more money towards Tyreke if need be.
No, but like others I'd be fine with letting Neal go.
tbh, I suspect the Spurs don't even consider Tyreke Spurs material... and while he's very talented, I'm not sure he's at a level that would make the FO overlook that...
Yes...without a second thought. But since there is no scenario where that is likely to happen, it doesn't really matter.
Don't just focus on FAs either. While it's more likely to come through FA, when you have cap space you can trade for guys as well.
Rookie tyreke? Any day of the week
LSt seasonss tyreke hmm tough just because I question his fit to the system but il prolly do it
Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. Personally, I don't think it's worth the 2x money Green is making to find out the answer, be that answer yes or no.
system fit? tyreke's style of play translates into the old Manu role. i'm a big fan of his game. he is my dream acquisition for this offseason. unless something crazy happens and kemp visits
that said, i wouldn't want to give up green because of how friendly his contract is, relative to the role he plays. we could theoretically make a run at tyreke and retain splitter, pending on the size of his contract. speaking of which, have we even officially extended his qualifying ofer?
Last edited by spurraider21; 06-28-2013 at 09:08 PM.
It's not a question of who is a "better" player, it's a question of relative value. Green makes 3.7 mil next season. For a guy who plays good defense and shoots 43% on 3 point shots, that's a great bargain. I don't see Tyreke making less than 9 mil next year. So the question is this: is Tyreke more valuable than Danny Green plus an MLE player? Because that's what the Spurs can get instead of potentially signing or trading for Evans.
Last edited by Mr Bones; 06-28-2013 at 09:24 PM.
I stopped reading right there. Tyreke is 23 years old. Danny Green is 26.
Would be a great investment if we were shored up in the bigs department but we're not.. Have to address our length up front before we think backcourt.
Brah, Sacto just drafted the best SG in the draft and a likely future All Star. Even before that, rumors were that the qualifying offer was just to get teams to the trading table.
I agree. Green at 3.7 million/year plus Brandan Wright at 4 or 5 million/year sounds better to me than Tyreke Evans solo at 8 or 9 million/year. Though I do think the Spurs need another reliable ball handler to take some of Manu's minutes next year, too.
During the prime Spurs vs Suns rivalry years, Shawn Marion was a more well rounded, all-around basketball player than Bruce Bowen. He also got paid a lot more. But Bowen performed his role to near perfection, and for a discounted rate. This gave the Spurs the ability to go get guys like Horry, Barry, etc.
Yes, and Tyreke has that play making ability plus he can pass the ball but price tag is too high. My hope is that Thomas pans out during the summer league and gets a shot at being a bench guy next year. Just come off the bench for a few minutes and spot up to make some shots.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LZBFZH1vP7M
Watch the first 10seconds of this video and tell yourself you'd take Green over this guy.. Potential over production people. Ask yourself this.
Do the Spurs need a shooter or a playmaker??
A shooter. Trading Green would get rid of the team's top three shooters in one off-season. You better have an idea on how to replace Green if you move him. Evans isn't the answer to that problem; he's just the solution to another.
Gary Neal? I mean you can find shooters....But it's harder to find players like Evans especially at his age. If Spurs can get anything close to his rookie yr production it would be a huge upgrade.
But the good thing is as mentioned before Spurs don't necessarily need to trade Green to get Evans...
For as good of a play-maker Evans is, Green is a better 3-and-D player. It's not easy at all to find players like Green; it took the team almost a decade to do so. Meanwhile, competent ball-handlers can be had for the minimum much more readily. For every Gary Neal, there are more Prigioni's and CJ Watsons. Good shooters get paid; good ball-handlers remain cheap.
So when it comes to overall value, it's not simply that Evans is better than Green, so the trade is a no-brainer. Green was absolutely essential to getting the Spurs to the Finals. His production has to be replaced by someone.
The reason why I want Evans is because he'd be gravy added to a team that was very close to being champions. If you start to break up that team to acquire him, you no longer have the same confidence that the team remains as good as it was.
Yup
Too much for Tyreke Evans when we have other issues.
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