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Probably, tbh. Green is a great shooter but is made a lot better by our system.
Watched the video and the first thing that came to my mind was - "Wow, this guy travels more than lebron"
Probably, tbh. Green is a great shooter but is made a lot better by our system.
in less than a millisecond. is this ing thread serious??
Green is a 1 trick Pony
I repeat: OJ Mayo. The Spurs should look at the possibility of signing him. Shouldn't demand much money and can play the 2/3. Can attack the rim, shoot the long ball (40.7% this season), and is a good overall player.
Problem is Evans doesn't know that trick.
If you trade Green it's for either a shooter who start next to TP or it's for another position and then you can sign someone like Mayo or Re .
I like Tiago + Green for Batum who can play well off the ball and won't get in the way but then again how much does that really help if at all...
Or Green for a PF like Tristan Thompson whose future on the Cavs doesn't appear very certain... He has a good relationship Cojo as well.
Green for Thompson and Karasev?
overpaying for shooters like Re and Mayo that can't guard anyone. Yeah, I'm not giving up Green for that.
Green is great but you can replace his system-enriched shooting with cheap talent. You'll miss his defensive services but you easily give that up for someone like Evans.
Evans is All-NBA team talent hampered by a sville organization. Yeah, I'll take him for the guy who fumbles the ball away every time he takes two dribbles.
Don't get fooled by the highlights. The NBA average for the player PER stat is 15. In five years, Mayo hit that mark exactly once, on the dot at 15.0, in 2011-2012. The rest of the time, he was below average.
He's not that good in a team scheme, or for a team that prizes efficiency.
A PER of 18.0 is considered borderline All Star talent. Tyreke Evans has hit that mark twice in 4 years.
Just out of curiosity, what is Leonard's PER?
16.4 in the regular season, 18.9 in the playoffs.
Tough question just because of Green's important role in this big-three dominated system. If the Spurs where rebuilding tomorrow, I would say yes (no questions about it), but since they are looking to make one more push then I think Green is too key cog. Evan's would be awesome off the bench in the 2012 James Harden role.
Tyreke has done nothing but decline since rookie year. Green has done nothing but improve
I've liked Tyreke Evans since he's gotten in the league, but people have to realize that he's a flawed player that needs plenty of work on his game. He and John Wall famously spend a lot of time during the summer months playing pro-am tournaments, while apparently not working on their biggest flaw (shooting). He also hasn't really improved since coming into the league, while playing what essentially is the weakest position in the NBA. Here is a great article about him that breaks down the issues with him and why (IMO) he'd be a big gamble if the Spurs chose him over Green:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/bas...art/index.html
Yup Evans has his flaws, but that's why he's not going to command James Harden money (approx 13-14M next year). Is he worth 9M? I think so, the upside is there plus he is already an elite defender (as the article mentions).
We should be clear on this: Green's shooting talent is his own. His production comes from the system. There's a reason why he's fourth in active career three-point percentage. His shooting as a two-guard is no more replaceable than Bonner's is a stretch-four.
Shooters get paid a lot of money for a reason: It's not a skill that can be replaced with cheap talent very easily. The Spurs have taken risks to try to get cheap shooting, and for the most part, they've worked out for at least a little while with Neal and Mason. But they've also busted with players like Anderson, Turkoglu, Simmons and Hairston. I'm not saying Green's untouchable. I am saying that you can't trade him without knowing exactly how to replace him. If the Spurs mess that up and get another Keith Bogans, then the team has a very strong chance to be worse this season, Evans or no Evans.
I actually think that Evans' game as moved from starter to sixth man over the last three years (increased efficiency, decreased volume, consistent over fewer minutes). He'd probably be the best sixth man in the league in the Spurs' system. But he'd also be a lateral move at best in the starting lineup.
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Should mention to those WHO say hes declined. While his ppg has declined each year since his rookie season so has his mpg each year. He actually had career highs in fgp and 3 point fgp last year.
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Chip is that dude, for sure, but he can't fix every player's flaws in their mechanics. I'd really like Tyreke on our team, but not at the expense of Green or Ginobili.
This kid has handles and playmaking ability. Green is terrible if you take away his shot.
It's very possible to have them all though.
Nope. Tyreke hit a slump, but came back, big time, last year. His PER stat by years: 18.2, 14.4, 16.4, 18.1
Danny Green will never be anything but a 3 and D guy. If you run him off the line, he's useless. He definitely has a function on this team, but if he's ever more than your 4th best player, you're going in to the lottery.
Tyreke Evans is 23, and could still turn into something very special, maybe a #2 option on a good playoff team.
Can you name a Spur who's shot he's failed to fix, or are you just taking a position on Chip because his fixing Tyreke's shot blows large holes in your arguments against picking him up?
Mayo at the 3 would be a huge defensive liability.. he's only 6'4". ANd not all that athletic. I'd rather spend money on 'Reke.
Huh? Never said that I didn't want 'Reke, just not at the expense of losing Manu or Green. I'd take him in a heart beat if we could get him and keep those two players. That isn't what the OP and most of the comments in the thread were proposing, though.
Tyrek Evans, WS 4.4, WS/48 .105
Danny Green, WS 5.9, WS/48 .128
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