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    30 Million 4 Years if he wants anything more than that Sign and Trade him.

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    That package starts with Tony Parker......
    Nope, the package starts with Leonard.

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    I want to know what rascal thinks portland would take for aldridge

    that sa has?
    kl has shown all star potenial but not sure portland would take him to give sa aldridge

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    Nope, the package starts with Leonard.
    Both TBH.

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    Bottom line you can't reward a scrub for playing that bad with such a contract.

    Pop prides himself on relying on meritocracy so I'm gonna bet on a sign and trade.

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    This was expected, he would obviously want money similar to Asik even though Asik has far more potential.

    All I can say is I expect the Spurs to re-sign Splitter given their "standing pat" strategy and aversion to risks. So when Splitter fails a post up against a 6'6 player or gets his weak flip shots packed while he flops like a little and doesn't get a call, it's going to be that much more frustrating. I could put up wit his soft when he was on his rookie contract but if he gets paid $9 million a year and consumes a large part of the cap, everyone is going be tired of his softness really fast.

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    This was expected, he would obviously want money similar to Asik even though Asik has far more potential.

    All I can say is I expect the Spurs to re-sign Splitter given their "standing pat" strategy and aversion to risks. So when Splitter fails a post up against a 6'6 player or gets his weak flip shots packed while he flops like a little and doesn't get a call, it's going to be that much more frustrating. I could put up wit his soft when he was on his rookie contract but if he gets paid $9 million a year and consumes a large part of the cap, everyone is going be tired of his softness really fast.
    Yeah that's not a good plan, especially when we're in such a good situation cap wise. You can't tell Danny Green and Boris Diaw that Splitter did enough to earn twice as much as they do.

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    Leonard > Aldridge. Short Term and Long Term srs

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    I want to know what rascal thinks portland would take for aldridge

    that sa has?
    kl has shown all star potenial but not sure portland would take him to give sa aldridge
    Leonard, Splitter(s & t), Bonner , Diaw for Aldridge Withey(some size back) and Crabbe

    Spurs would have to get a couple of free agents to replace Leonard and Bonner.
    You take a hit at sf for an upgrade at pf/center.

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    This was expected, he would obviously want money similar to Asik even though Asik has far more potential.

    All I can say is I expect the Spurs to re-sign Splitter given their "standing pat" strategy and aversion to risks. So when Splitter fails a post up against a 6'6 player or gets his weak flip shots packed while he flops like a little and doesn't get a call, it's going to be that much more frustrating. I could put up wit his soft when he was on his rookie contract but if he gets paid $9 million a year and consumes a large part of the cap, everyone is going be tired of his softness really fast.
    good post. What you say is what they exactly will do.

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    Other thoughts:

    - I don't know why everyone is freaking out but I shouldn't be surprised at the GNSF reaction. If they think they can get Splitter to sign under $8 million, they are completely delusional. I even see a couple of "Splitter should sign for $5 million a year"

    - Bigs come at a premium in the league and the Spurs would be lucky to not overpay Splitter too much. There are far worse bigs out there that get paid way more money. If he gets $11-$12 million offers, THEN that would put the Spurs in a quandary and Spurstalk will be allowed to have a meltdown.

    - For the record, Millsap is a better big than Splitter, hence why he will get paid more than Splitter. I dislike small bigs just as much as the next GNSF but Millsap is the exception. He has a 7'2 wingspan and rebounds and works hard without Splitter's softness. I would rather have a small that plays big than a big that plays small. You can be sure if he was posting up against Battier or Miller, he would wreck them. As for the better fit, again, thanks to the Spurs frugality and aversion to risks, they most likely would rather keep Splitter.

    - The real contract dilemma is Ginobili. Whether he takes the under the cap MLE or a larger amount will be everything. That is the difference between essentially no cap room to $7-8 million of cap room. Judging on how the Spurs extended an offer to Neal and kept Bonner, I grow less optimistic every day that the Spurs are willing to target a good free agent. Waiving Bonner and renouncing Neal's rights could have cleared about $5 million more cap space. The Spurs did not do that, which means they probably do not plan on improving the team.

    So now is not the time to have a meltdown. When the Spurs stand pat and blow their cap room bringing back the same roster, that's when Spurstalk should start calling for RC and Pop's heads.

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    $8-9 million is about as expected for Splitter, and I think the Spurs would be very happy if that turns out to be the case.

    EDIT: Text below probably isn't applicable; carry on.

    That said, this part was interesting:

    "The baseline for a Splitter offer sheet will likely be the three-year, $25 million deal that Houston awarded center Omer Asik in free agency a year ago, sources told Y! Sports."

    The major question with this would be, will it be the poison pill variety? Asik's contract was structured such that (if the Bulls matched) it would be worth $5 million each of the first two years, then $15 million in year 3. If so, how would the Spurs react to this? The pro would be more cap room this year, the con would be less cap room the year after Parker and Duncan's current contracts expire.

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    $8-9 million is about as expected for Splitter, and I think the Spurs would be very happy if that turns out to be the case. That said, this part was interesting:

    "The baseline for a Splitter offer sheet will likely be the three-year, $25 million deal that Houston awarded center Omer Asik in free agency a year ago, sources told Y! Sports."

    The major question with this would be, will it be the poison pill variety? Asik's contract was structured such that (if the Bulls matched) it would be worth $5 million each of the first two years, then $15 million in year 3. If so, how would the Spurs react to this? The pro would be more cap room this year, the con would be less cap room the year after Parker and Duncan's current contracts expire.
    Actually, now that I look at it, I don't think a contract like this is possible in Splitter's situation, since he doesn't fall under the Gilbert Arenas provision. Can anyone confirm this?

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    if it's 25 for 3 than i'll be happy, freaking javale mcgee got 44+/4 years..

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    1) This is not unexpected.

    2) Spurs will definitely have a decision to make as it's a lot of money. Good news is that it won't really impact their cap space this year.

    3) It only takes one stupid team to significantly up that price. We have to hope that does not happen.

    4) It's funny that people point out the Spurs FA struggles while seemingly making it seem like Tiago has the Spurs held hostage. That's not the Spurs MO either. Very rare that someone holds the Spurs hostage financially, so they do have options.

    5) If the contract is what is reported, that seems fair and Spurs should bring him back.

    6) While bringing him back should be the priority, there are certainly legit reasons to pause. But in the end, he is critical.
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    Other thoughts:

    - I don't know why everyone is freaking out but I shouldn't be surprised at the GNSF reaction. If they think they can get Splitter to sign under $8 million, they are completely delusional. I even see a couple of "Splitter should sign for $5 million a year"
    I think the qualifying offer of $5 million a year that the Spurs have offered is fair enough. Whether he'll take that or not is another subject.

    - The real contract dilemma is Ginobili. Whether he takes the under the cap MLE or a larger amount will be everything. That is the difference between essentially no cap room to $7-8 million of cap room. Judging on how the Spurs extended an offer to Neal and kept Bonner, I grow less optimistic every day that the Spurs are willing to target a good free agent. Waiving Bonner and renouncing Neal's rights could have cleared about $5 million more cap space. The Spurs did not do that, which means they probably do not plan on improving the team.
    I'm hoping that Manu is letting the Spurs do all their signings and that his contract doesn't end up being an obstacle or difference maker on whether we sign a FA or not. Hopefully he pulls a Tim Duncan in that he's willing to sacrifice his salary for the good of the team.

    So now is not the time to have a meltdown. When the Spurs stand pat and blow their cap room bringing back the same roster, that's when Spurstalk should start calling for RC and Pop's heads
    Co-signed.

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    three-year, $25 million is a fair deal.

    I'd keep him for that money and especially years. I don't want to see Spurs sign Tiago for 5 season

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    If I was Splitter, I'd depart. When a decadent team's fans are bashing you, take your pride and go away.

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    if it's 25 for 3 than i'll be happy, freaking javale mcgee got 44+/4 years..
    Javale is athletic as , can block shots that seem impossible, can rebound.. he's a goofy ass kid but if he got his together he'd be scary good. Not the same for tiago

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    Spurs will overreact when nobody signs here and shore him up to a 4 year 40Million dollar deal.

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    If I was Splitter, I'd depart. When a decadent team's fans are bashing you, take your pride and go away.
    It's like Spurs fans forget how successful we were in the playoffs relying on Bonner/Blair.

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    omfg sign him and stfu

    Splitter can only improve from this point

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    Don't resign. Too much. Spurs should not forget too soon that they got a bit of help along the way in getting to the Finals. Splitter is not worth 9 million against the elite teams. Let him walk.
    It reminds of nfl where you have to pay more for mediocre players in certain positions. That's the going rate for a big man. Either that or they pay little for a rookie and play the lottery. Atleast with Splitter they know where he needs work on. He's not a lost cause.

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    3 years, $25 mil is standard fare for a starting big in the NBA. Some of you don't have a clue.

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