Haha. Nice!
^ this.
Ellis is a proven scorer and playmaker - for himself only. Yet, he's a one-dimensional ball-hog, who plays no defense whatsoever. He'd never agree to come off the bench. There's no way this is true. Spurs can do much better than him - and for less money.
Ellis is said to be willing to take a pay cut to play on a contender, we're not doing better for the money, there's like 17 teams already asking about Tyreke and he's a RFA...
Last edited by Baam; 07-01-2013 at 07:38 AM.
My only concerns is the money.
I've been wanting to do some analyis in order to see how players from other teams perform when they come to the Spurs, bue the sample is TOO small.
Having said that, I think any player that has skill that comes to the Spurs will probably play better, thats what I assume of Monta.
Danny Green is an example.
Like I said, money is my problem, he is not gonna shoot like crazy with a hand on his face as much as he does in MIL.
I would pay...lets say...4 years 30.
I always thought Monta was a special talent.
Maybe it's not too late for him for good coaching to purify what he is.
He can be prolific scorer if there was intelligence implemented and wisdom in his game.
He also has guts. He was part of that We Believe Golden state Team an 8th seed that Destroyed a Dirk team led Dallas first seed.
At this point in his manhood, wanting to rid himself from the stigmas of his youthful mistakes,
I'd venture to guess maybe he wants to find out how really good he can be.
He never seemed uncoachable to me.
I think playing with Duncan and Pop, and in the Spurs culture, could cut off the rough edges and reveal a gem.
*for some reason I am reminded of Speedy Claxton and 2003.
Parker was faltering and Speedy stepped in and grabbed the reigns
for some reason my mind is drawing a parallel, that Speedy and Monta have that same sort of grit
Also maybe this move would be just so save more wear and tear on Tony in the regular season.
Last edited by Yuixafun; 07-01-2013 at 07:39 AM. Reason: more thoughts
Oh god please no. He is an overrated chucker who makes crazy shot-decisions. Undersized too. I'd rather have that playoff chucker JR.
your blind knob slobbing of ginobili is sickening
Playing mostly SG and averaging 6 APG begs to differ. The guy is a chucker. But in the Spurs pass happy offense he might adjust to the more move the ball until the best shot becomes available Spurs system.
The most intriguing thing about him is his ability to get to the rim and penetrate, something the Spurs sorely needed against Miami. Ellis would provide the Spurs just that. It seems that Ellis opted out primarily because he wanted to go to a contending team. Maybe that ass whooping Miami handed to the Bucks left a bad taste in his mouth.
And no, I would rather have Ellis than JR Smith. JR is a headcase and Ellis is anything but that. He is just like Neal where can go into Chucker mode during games.
And who says Ellis wouldn't come off the bench. Terry did it for years making a 10-12 million dollar salary. Being the 6th man on a contending team isn't a bad thing at all. Most get starters minutes anyways.
Last edited by Cowboys_Wear_Spurs; 07-01-2013 at 08:11 AM.
I remember reading an article about Monta Ellis had a fight with Larry Sanders & the two had to be separated in the locker room as the two nearly came to blows after they lost game 3 vs Heat in the playoffs.
While no punches were actually thrown this might be the reason he is not in Milwaukee right now.
the Spurs are 20 sec (or 5.3sec?), to their 5th le and lost but classy enough to accept defeat.
Manu's TO's were killers though, the majority of them were either stupid flashy passes, or him trying to show off dribbling, he looked like a rookie in an old man's body just trying too hard. They happened in crucial moments as well totally killing the Spurs' momentum, the majority of them didn't even have to do with the Heat's defense actually doing anything, he was practically handing the ball off to them.
And offensively TP was levels ahead of Manu's horrific play these playoffs offensively.
We need size on the perimeter or do people want to see more Ginobili and Green (unsuccessfully) attempting to man the back-up 3, again. His scoring and athleticism is a plus, but he lacks size for his position and has ton of warts in his game (already mentioned by a lot of posters). In short, the Spurs can do a lot better for themselves elsewhere, IMO.
Y'all are tripping. Ellis can drop 30 any given night. People that act like they know what he wants are stupid. If he does come off the bench he's exactly what we need.
He turned down that contract because he was playing for the Bucks...if he'd take 2 mil less a year to play for Spurs I'd pull the trigger
I'm not surprised if true. This is as close to a big name as the spurs would have a chance to bring in. They just don't/can't A listers for a myriad of reasons, so they end up almost always getting guys with something to prove. That's their big fish hook.
On most teams a player like Ellis would be a cancer, but if he can score and create his own shot from the 2 spot, that's exactly what we need right now..
exatamente isso, e ainda se conseguissemos ellis e ainda de alguma forma faruck aminu eu estaria completamente feliz
The biggest question with Ellis for me is 'how much money will he command?'. If he can be gotten for decent value I think he is well worth it. For the Spurs a guy like Ellis could be very big off the bench. With the Bucks and previously the Warriors Ellis was a focal point of the offense and did over extend himself as far as shot selection goes. Ultimately, the guy can straight-up score. In a system like the Spurs being a spark off the bench I think he could really thrive. The Spurs struggled mightily scoring against Miami when Parker was out.
You can't fit a square peg into a round hole. Ellis is not a player who fits into the Spurs mold. He is too selfish on the court, does not know how to play defense, and most importantly, does not have 'basketball smarts'...he does not fit into the inclusion criteria to be on this team.
This has to be a smoke screen from Ellis's camp to draw up more interest from other teams.
Goal is probably squeeze this guy and Splitter into our avaiable $19 million cap space, $23 million with a Bonner amnesty. Likely then means that an offer to Neal would not be matched.
Obviously against Miami we needed a) another scorer to stop runs, b) a player that could stay on the floor against the Heat
If Ellis brings a and b that's perfect. If he only brings a that still improves our team I'm thinking.
Not sure why the spurs are interested in Ellis and not iggy. Maybe they something in Ellis's jumpshot that they can fix?
^ yeah, because you didn't just describe gary neal
Ellis is 10x the athlete Neal is.
Ellis would not replace Neal, he would probably start before Green.
Ellis on this team would be amazing. We're too dependent on Parker for playmaking, now that Manu sucks.
So if they sign him do we all assume he won't fit in? Or do we give this a chance?
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