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    If it's not the room exception . . .

    This offseason was pure garbage.

    And let me tell you . . .

    It's not the room exception. Because the Spurs won't amnesty Bonner. To them, Bonner is worth a 10 Kirilenkos.
    I hope not. The Spurs make plenty of right decisions but this infatuation with Bonner needs to end. He does not bring much to the table, is non-existent come playoff time, and he really isn't that much of a fan favorite. Dude is a good guy, but the correct basketball move is to let him go.

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    Regarding whether or not this is the room exception, I could see it going either way:

    -Reports could easily round $5.42M to $5.6M.

    -The Spurs could have strategically offered $5.6M because they knew a bunch of teams would be throwing him $5.42M offers. By slightly separating themselves from that pack, they were hoping that would entice Belinelli.






    Unfortch, the latter is probably more likely.

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    yes !!!!


    Finally someone with cojones !


    the goods

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    If it's not the room exception . . .

    This offseason was pure garbage.

    And let me tell you . . .

    It's not the room exception. Because the Spurs won't amnesty Bonner. To them, Bonner is worth a 10 Kirilenkos.
    In fact, they are right.

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    I hope not. The Spurs make plenty of right decisions but this infatuation with Bonner needs to end. He does not bring much to the table, is non-existent come playoff time, and he really isn't that much of a fan favorite. Dude is a good guy, but the correct basketball move is to let him go.
    He was basically an after-thought all season. I firmly believe that the love affair is coming to a conclusion.

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    Just a hint: thinking that you know more about the CBA than Bruno is a loser's game.

    You're wrong about the S&T and the room exception, btw..
    Cool beans, but know this. It's not the room exception, and we're not doing a sign & trade to acquire AK47. It's that simple. That's a "loser's game" for everyone on this forum who thinks otherwise.

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    Now sign omrri casspi to be the back up 3.

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    Has the cap even been finalized? Is it possible it creeped up slightly making the room a little bigger?

    either way, Bonner's here to stay.

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    Regarding whether or not this is the room exception, I could see it going either way:

    -Reports could easily round $5.42M to $5.6M.

    -The Spurs could have strategically offered $5.6M because they knew a bunch of teams would be throwing him $5.42M offers. By slightly separating themselves from that pack, they were hoping that would entice Belinelli.






    Unfortch, the latter is probably more likely.
    if he was so interested to go the Spurs to let Cavs offer on the table, I don't see why he wouldn't accept 5,42 from the Spurs with a bunch of teams throwing at him the same 5,42...

    not saying he didn't get 5,6 just for the sake of the logical thinking

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    -The Spurs could have strategically offered $5.6M because they knew a bunch of teams would be throwing him $5.42M offers. By slightly separating themselves from that pack, they were hoping that would entice Belinelli.
    That makes no sense. Why would you purposefully hinder your ability to sign other FA's by signing a player marginally better than Neal?

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    The guy apparently turns down an offer of 12 M for 2 years, because he is offered half to play for Pop.

    Seriously, who thinks he would be making a bid deal about the 6/5.4 difference?

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    God, the same flaws are still there. No real SF other than Leonard. No smallball PF other than Leonard.

    They just replace Neal with a slightly taller Neal.

    We know what that means. Watch out on the roads tonight people.

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    Regarding whether or not this is the room exception, I could see it going either way:

    -Reports could easily round $5.42M to $5.6M.

    -The Spurs could have strategically offered $5.6M because they knew a bunch of teams would be throwing him $5.42M offers. By slightly separating themselves from that pack, they were hoping that would entice Belinelli.






    Unfortch, the latter is probably more likely.
    How so? He just turned down double the amount, what makes you think 200k would make any difference?

    He's probably looking to play for a contending team, and if Belli is not dumb, he'd know there's only a few teams that are legit contenders.

    Not to mention teams like OKC, Miami, Clippers, Nets, Memphis don't really need him.

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    That makes no sense. Why would you purposefully hinder your ability to sign other FA's by signing a player marginally better than Neal?
    If Neal is out of your price range, then you have sign a replacement that fits in your salary structure.

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    The guy apparently turns down an offer of 12 M for 2 years, because he is offered half to play for Pop.

    Seriously, who thinks he would be making a bid deal about the 6/5.4 difference?
    Exactly.

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    The guy apparently turns down an offer of 12 M for 2 years, because he is offered half to play for Pop.

    Seriously, who thinks he would be making a bid deal about the 6/5.4 difference?
    The thing it only makes a difference if the Spurs were ready to amnesty Bonbon and that's not happening...

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    solid pick up....

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    If Neal is out of your price range, then you have sign a replacement that fits in your salary structure.
    And your salary structure could not have been reduced by $200,000? I'm not buying it. Marco was already purchased on the cheap, what's another .2 mil?

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    That makes no sense. Why would you purposefully hinder your ability to sign other FA's by signing a player marginally better than Neal?
    If the Spurs don't intent to create cap space, offering him $5.6M over two years isn't much of a different than $5.42M -- yet could help their offer stand out.

    We assume that the Spurs have been trying to create that cap space but we don't know if that's actually the plan.

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    And your salary structure could not have been reduced by $200,000? I'm not buying it. Marco was already purchased on the cheap, what's another .2 mil?
    I was responding to your post. The 200K bit is irrelevant to that.

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    The guy apparently turns down an offer of 12 M for 2 years, because he is offered half to play for Pop.

    Seriously, who thinks he would be making a bid deal about the 6/5.4 difference?
    So hypothetically, if we were to offer him the 5.6 to entice him because we knew Neal would bail, then let him weigh his options; would it be right to withdraw that offer and say "no, we're giving you the 5.4 because we'd like to add another piece to the team?" Or better yet, do you think that's how the Spurs run their organization?

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    i like belinelli.. i always have since day 1.. i'm happy he signed with us..

    the best way i can put it is.. the splitter/manu contract, while bypassing a high profile FA move really hurt.. but signing bellinelli helped ease the pain alot

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    If the Spurs don't intent to create cap space, offering him $5.6M over two years isn't much of a different than $5.42M -- yet could help their offer stand out.

    We assume that the Spurs have been trying to create that cap space but we don't know if that's actually the plan.
    I can see how that could be a possibility but I really hope that is not the case. Marco was already willing to sacrifice money and seemed to have San Antonio in his sights. I don't think it would be too hard to tell him that we have to cut your salary by another .2 million to bring in another FA (potentially international).

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    Just to add a little positive note to all the doom and gloom,

    Dunleavy was signed by Chi for the room exception (the mini MLE : http://www.jsonline.com/sports/bucks...213925711.html ), and it was reported as 2yrs/$6M (Dunleavy Agrees To Two-Year, $6M Deal With Bulls : http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/228537/Dunleavy-Agrees-To-Two-Year-$6M-Deal-With-Bulls).

    I suspect it is being planned as the room exception. It may become the MLE if things don't pan out with whatever other free agents they are pursuing...

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    Beli has made a lot of money, broadly speaking, already in his 6 years in the NBA.

    People need to relize that beyond a certain amount, let's say 5 M, money isn't a big issue anymore, for an intelligent person.
    And Beli stupid is not.

    You want to leave a mark as a player.
    Few have the possibility to play for Pop, and Duncan and heroe Manu and Parker.

    On top of that, he is getting paid a fair amount.

    Grande Beli, siamo tutti con te.

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