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    Great news!! He is gonna be an upgrade over Neal.

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    What's good about this kid is he can create his own shot off the dribble. His shooting percentage will increase next season because he fits the Spurs system perfectly.
    What's good about this kid is he can ACTUALLY dribble unlike Neal.

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    What's good about this kid is he can ACTUALLY dribble unlike Neal.
    That is true, and his defense has improved immensely under Thibs. Once in a while, he can also make plays for his teammates. He'll be an excellent sixth man, or perhaps even a starter next season.

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    Belinelli vs. Heat
    14.5 points per 48 minutes
    4.5 rebounds per 48 minutes
    3.7 assists per 48 minutes
    4.6 fouls per 48 minutes
    2.6 turnovers per 48 minutes
    34% shooting from the field
    33% shooting on three-pointers

    Neal vs. Heat
    18.5 points per 48 minutes
    4.7 rebounds per 48 minutes
    1.8 assists per 48 minutes
    2.7 fouls per 48 minutes
    2.2 turnovers per 48 minutes
    42% shooting from the field
    47% shooting on three-pointers

    Neal was much better against the Heat. Tbh, Belinelli sucked against the Heat.
    This comparison is pretty pointless when you consider the fact that the Heat didn't have to double-team anybody on that Bulls team, so the team was easier to defend, unlike our Spurs, which gave Neal plenty of good looks when he wasn't chucking the out of possessions. You pair Marco with this Spurs roster, and you end up with an improved team because he's a better ball handler than Neal, better passer, not a ball-hogging chucker and thus a better BB I.Q. than Neal. We win in this deal.

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    2yr/6m is a bargain but I don't think he's gonna be an upgrade over Neal by any means. Neal has a wide range of scoring options and he's twice the player Beli is in creating chances for his teammates. I'd rather pay Neal 5m/yr than pay Beli 3m/yr tbh

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    This comparison is pretty pointless when you consider the fact that the Heat didn't have to double-team anybody on that Bulls team, so the team was easier to defend, unlike our Spurs, which gave Neal plenty of good looks when he wasn't chucking the out of possessions. You pair Marco with this Spurs roster, and you end up with an improved team because he's a better ball handler than Neal, better passer, not a ball-hogging chucker and thus a better BB I.Q. than Neal. We win in this deal.
    better passer and handler and less a ball hogger? Neal is a well above Beli in almost everything it seems to me except for body height. Timvp shed some light on the comparison between these two players and you can't argue against facts imho. Spurs have a great system where everyone benefits from playing in it, not just Neal himself. I don't see how the Bulls being a ty offensive team hampers Beli's performance as an individual, in fact it only worked the opposite way if anything because he was the only "3pt shooter" on that team. Say if you're the coach of the team that plays against the Bulls, how are you gonna make your defensive plan? You pay more attention to defending the 3pt line and the perimeter, or to the paint? Being a giant among midgets doesn't necessarily mean being tall imho

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    I like the deal considering that we had little left after overpaying Manu on the second consecutive contract. He provides insurance if Green or when Manu gets hurt.

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    I'm still waiting for the Grizzlies to win.
    Ouch!

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    To everyone quoting those numbers of Neal and Belinelli vs. Heat ... obviously the small sample size invalidates those stats for the most part. However, I was responding to a poster who said that Belinelli was very good against the Heat. He wasn't.

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    As much as Neal sucked on D, I'll say this. I know he'd be the last one to shrivel up on taking a shot under pressure. Hopefully we don't lack that with what we have left on this roster. Not that I like Neals shot selections, bc they drove me crazy sometimes, but other times he was money too, and he just did not give a . Sometimes, that comes in handy.

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    That is true, and his defense has improved immensely under Thibs. Once in a while, he can also make plays for his teammates. He'll be an excellent sixth man, or perhaps even a starter next season.
    Belinelli's defensive improvement under Thibs isn't nearly as impressive as his defensive improvement over the last 9 hours.

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    Belinelli's defensive improvement under Thibs isn't nearly as impressive as his defensive improvement over the last 9 hours.

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    Belinelli vs. Heat
    14.5 points per 48 minutes
    4.5 rebounds per 48 minutes
    3.7 assists per 48 minutes
    4.6 fouls per 48 minutes
    2.6 turnovers per 48 minutes
    34% shooting from the field
    33% shooting on three-pointers

    Neal vs. Heat
    18.5 points per 48 minutes
    4.7 rebounds per 48 minutes
    1.8 assists per 48 minutes
    2.7 fouls per 48 minutes
    2.2 turnovers per 48 minutes
    42% shooting from the field
    47% shooting on three-pointers

    Neal was much better against the Heat. Tbh, Belinelli sucked against the Heat.

    Neal's one fluke game skewed the out of those numbers. Come on.

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    To everyone quoting those numbers of Neal and Belinelli vs. Heat ... obviously the small sample size invalidates those stats for the most part. However, I was responding to a poster who said that Belinelli was very good against the Heat. He wasn't.

    5 games against Miami vs 7 for Neal with one game that again, puts the stupid sabermetricks stats useless.

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    Belinelli's defensive improvement under Thibs isn't nearly as impressive as his defensive improvement over the last 9 hours.
    No one said he was Bruce Bowen, but he's an improvement over Neal.

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    So we signed him?

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    Neal can be a double edged sword sometimes but a good coach knows how to make him work the positive way, like how Carlisle used JJB in 2011. While Beli is nothing more than a d-league MVP type of thing like Matt Carroll. I guess some people might have confused him with Gallinari. If he was really that good he wouldn't have accepted a 2yr/6m contract to play for the spurs imho

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    Neal can be a double edged sword sometimes but a good coach knows how to make him work the positive way, like how Carlisle used JJB in 2011. While Beli is nothing more than a d-league MVP type of thing like Matt Carroll. I guess some people might have confused him with Gallinari. If he was really that good he wouldn't have accepted a 2yr/6m contract to play for the spurs imho
    He took less money. He had bigger offers from Cleveland and most likely Brooklyn.

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    Neal can be a double edged sword sometimes but a good coach knows how to make him work the positive way, like how Carlisle used JJB in 2011. While Beli is nothing more than a d-league MVP type of thing like Matt Carroll. I guess some people might have confused him with Gallinari. If he was really that good he wouldn't have accepted a 2yr/6m contract to play for the spurs imho
    He took less money. He had bigger offers from Cleveland and most likely Brooklyn.

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    I'm a little confused, Did the Spurs sign Belinelli?

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    We needed another ball handler more than anything. Belinelli was forced to do way, way too much against the Heat. He had very few people on the floor with him on Chicago who could do anything. So the comparison is not only a small sample, it's not fair.

    This was a solid move.
    He is so much better than Neal with the ball, it's not even close.
    This guy can actually get his head up while dribbling and see more than the rim.

    Interested to see how it works out.

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    We needed another ball handler more than anything. Belinelli was forced to do way, way too much against the Heat. He had very few people on the floor with him on Chicago who could do anything. So the comparison is not only a small sample, it's not fair.

    This was a solid move.
    He is so much better than Neal with the ball, it's not even close.
    This guy can actually get his head up while dribbling and see more than the rim.

    Interested to see how it works out.
    How is he on defense? I mean will it be a noticeable upgrade from Neal at least?

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    Nobody can officially sign anywhere until July 10. The Spurs and Belinelli have verbally agreed on a contract for 2 years worth approximately $5.4M-$6M.

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    How is he on defense? I mean will it be a noticeable upgrade from Neal at least?
    Physically he is less capable than Neal defensively imo.
    but...

    He will know how to get out in front of a screen before he gets cut off. He will know what he is supposed to do and not go wandering off like a bonehead. That has to be an improvement.

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