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wanting Neal instead of Belli. ing kill yourself.
He's only 27 guys!!!
#3 will be hangin from the rafters along with #2 and #16 (yeah you heard me) some day in the future.
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I'll go out on a limb and say he was talking free agent.
The bold has been one of the nice surprises. Beli, despite all the concerns has come up Aces so far and the bold is a big reason why. Both he and Gino are playing well with great chemsitry and Manu's ball handling has regained form which has allowed this to work. That and the fact Beli isn't lazy off the ball. Even Beli's ball handling has been ok (better than I remembered but not great or anything).
-Neal vs. Belinelli is very close talent-wise. I'd maybe say Neal is a slightly better player.
Steal of the off-season. He's everything we had hoped Brent Barry would be when we signed him summer of 04' (Barry was productive but a bit underwhelming considering the expectations).
Beli' is a player!!
Double bump. It's only fair that people get both the ebb and flow of Beli. Its obviously not wise to celebrate at the start of the race.
Not an apples-to-apples bump IMO. Beli has been asked to do way more than he should. If everyone were healthy and he was in his designated role I am sure he would be doing about what was expected. He's not great, but he seems like a guy that is a role player who has the courage to do something in the playoffs. Which is about all you can hope for with regards to lower end limited players.
What has he been asked to do that is egregious? Has he even been asked to play the 3 or point? Oh noes they thought he might be able to start! Far too much!
Your takes are awful. just .
The bump is more about the Beli/Neal debate. Beli isn't so much better than Neal that it was worth the team's flexibility, and that's even truer with Mills playing Neal's role. When put in that context, it's hard to think Beli was a good acquisition.
But I imagine the pendulum will swing a few more times this year. It's a ST habit to declare victory arrogantly as soon as their side pulls ahead.
Belli and Manu display great chemistry offensively. Belli is a secondary playmaker. He's not going to initiate the offense, run the point, and be the primary creator, but if a guy like TP or Manu gets the defense on their heels and rotating, Belli can take advantage of the defense's positioning and is also a willing passer.
Basically, he's more of a catch-pump and drive kind of guy than a "take them off the dribble and suck in the defense" kind of guy. It's not a bad thing, its what he is, and he's going to struggle when he's asked to do more.
Yeah but how is Beli, Manu, and Mills going to share the same court in the playoffs? Their offensive rating was so good that it didn't matter that that trio wasn't great defensively. The only way all three could play together is if Splitter comes off the bench with Diaw ,or possibly, Leonard or playing at the 4.
while the debate about belinelli being better than neal is a matter of points of view, there are some things we know for sure at this point, that are different from what was advertised:
-belinelli is NOT a playmaker
-is NOT a high iq player
-is NOT a better defender than neal by any means and that's saying a lot
-is NOT a noticeably better ball handler than neal or a better passer
-acquiring him instead of a defensive player was the wrong move
Disagree on all counts.
-beli can make plays at a higher level than Neal
-beli is a high iq player
-beli is a marginally better defender than Neal but that isn't saying a lot.
-beli is a better ball handler and much better passer
-AK would have been ideal but who else was available that is as versatile as beli?
As others have said, due to injuries, he is being way overutilized and playing out of position. Bring all the soldiers back and beli will play much better...
- like what plays? pass an open 3 to take a long 2? make cuts like that's going to work in the play offs?
- yeah no he is not, he is re ed, his positioning is re ed, his shot selection is re ed, he falls for pump fakes the little times he actually guards...
- still with this ? our D was a landslide better last year, this year we're a joke on the perimeter and yes it's strictly belinelli's fault
- right, coz the ball movement improved this year.. he isn't even handling the ball..
- brewer, webster, whatever.. and beli is one of the least versatile players you can find..
The fact that this year, we have had a landslide of injuries to our best defenders has nothing to do with any of the above, huh? beli playing awesome on the second unit when everyone was healthy? Not so much when playing out of position? No? Bueller?
Must be beli's fault that half the team is broken! I see what you're saying..
honestly, i can't stress enough how stupid is the argument that x is struggling because he is playing too much.. For every player in the world this side of 40mpg you always hear that he is struggling because he plays too little, but with him no, it's the oppositeThe fact that this year, we have had a landslide of injuries to our best defenders has nothing to do with any of the above, huh? beli playing awesome on the second unit when everyone was healthy? Not so much when playing out of position? No? Bueller?
Must be beli's fault that half the team is broken! I see what you're saying..
our whole rotation is are messed up. can we give judge them (and him) around feb 24th when 3 of our top 8 rotation guys are back. He's a ROLE player. He is one of 9 and towards the end of that 9. But he can do his job well when he is in his role. Injuries force him out of his role. Mills has played better forced out of his role yes-- but both are role players not the big 3 or Kawhi.
The issue with beli isn't that he plays too much, it's that he plays out of position. He is a great role player on a good team but we are forcing him to guard 3's and to be the primary ball handler situationally. He is much better off the ball, making cuts and moving to the open spot on the floor. He can't be expecting to guard Durant but if Leonard, Green and Manu are all out, he has to with horrendous results, as we've seen.honestly, i can't stress enough how stupid is the argument that x is struggling because he is playing too much.. For every player in the world this side of 40mpg you always hear that he is struggling because he plays too little, but with him no, it's the opposite
Once the team comes back in force, we'll see beli moving back in the rotation where he will shine, especially paired with Gino.
And not too belabor a point but we were awesome defensively last year with a healthy team, this year we are broken and our defense sucks because of it. That's not an excuse, just empirical evidence and the reality of the team we are fielding today...
he doesn't play out of position on offence, he guards the worst player of the 1-3 on the opposing team no matter which one is it. If anything it's Joseph and Green that play out of position because of him. It's no coincidence that any strong team was able to butt us from the perimeter no matter if we were healthy or not. The belinelli ballhandler argument to me is just weird, as if there is any value in putting the ball from one side of the court to the other when there is no pressure. our D sucks because of injuries that's true, but it just further shows how much is belinelli's worth. Even healthy we were bad whenever he was on the floor against a good opposition. We will be good when we'll play our top defenders 95% of the time, for the last spot in the rotation, the spot of "random shooter that goes nuts here and there" pop needs to choose between de colo, beli or mills.
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