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Bump all you want. For the price he's a great player a huge improvement over Gary Neal.
Beli is forced to play out of position because the Spurs signed him instead of a three. It's not Marco's fault, but it does make his signing questionable.
Bump all you want. For the price he's a great player a huge improvement over Gary Neal.
That's like saying Ayres is a huge improvement over Theo Ratliff. That doesn't make it money well spent. Beli is a good player in a vacuum, and he's even fine on the Spurs so long as everyone's healthy. But he wasn't a good get for the club.
If you can see the difference between a player "in a vacuum," as well as in the context of a team, surely you can also see that his presence on our club had to do with the context of viable FAs available and the projected progress of the Spurs already under contract. Gotta agree with T Park.
It's funny how posters use the old cliche "playing out of position" when referencing Belinelli yet, disregard that fact entirely when it comes to Neal. Belinelli doesn't need your protection. You can blame the latest woes on injuries but even a blind pig could see that he was playing the 1,2 and 3 when the team was healthy. No, it's not Beli's fault he's being asked to play out of position just like it wasn't Neal's fault he was asked to play PG instead of his natural SG position (sound familiar?), The Spurs operate under the false pretenses that they can just plug n go and the system will figure itself out somewhere along the way. You can see how it was a major flaw to stockpile SG's, neglecting the back up point and SF positions in the offseason. The Spurs have never been one to worry about team needs and necessities and THAT along with injuries is why the team is struggling to find solid ground.The fact that this year, we have had a landslide of injuries to our best defenders has nothing to do with any of the bove, huh? beli playing awesome on the second unit when everyone was healthy? Not so much when playing out of position? No? Bueller?
Must be beli's fault that half the team is broken! I see what you're saying..
No. The Spurs signed Beli because they didn't trust Mills and thought Leonard would be healthy all year. It turns out, they already had an instant-offense guard and didn't have a viable big-minutes backup for Leonard. That led inevitably to Green having to play the three full-time and being less effective and Beli playing at the three and being awful at it.
It's not enough to say Beli was a good signing since he's a good eighth or ninth man when everyone's healthy. The MLE is supposed to bring in more than that. The fact that the team felt upgrading from Neal was the best way to use their flexibility is mind-boggling. The Spurs should have trusted their guards and upgraded their forwards. Instead, they left their perimeter undersized and their front court underskilled. Beli being able to hold down 15 MPG in the playoffs moderately better than Neal could doesn't erase that.
truth nuke tbh
plus, the Ferrari needs a state of the art race course to excel. Now he is forced to work with some of the biggest scrubs in the league
the Ferrari is all about putting nails in coffins and making it look good.
in other words, as I said for months, great signing, class A+ player, ty situation he's had to work with
at least he saved manus career, too bad Manu broke down like usual
I guess the thrust of my point was that there weren't too many players available that combined all the qualities you list at a sub-MLE price -- especially players willing to accept a subordinate role. That was the "context" of the offseason that determined why Belli was signed (for example: it isn't as though the FO didn't sniff at AK47), along with their projection of Neal's value on the open market. After Neal's performance in some of the Finals, I'm fairly certain the FO was as surprised as anyone that Neal wasn't instantly signed at a higher price than he was, and I'm sure Neal's projected price/performance informed their contract for Belli.
I'm not going to claim to know anything about how the Spurs operated during the off-season, but I consider the idea that Beli was the best they could do unsubstantiated speculation. I can't see why Webster would have picked D.C. over SA. Even if that's true for Webster, was it true for Brewer? For Mo Williams (who could have played the two and backed up Parker)? Dorrel Wright? What did were Korver and Aminu doing? The Lakers wing FA trio? No foresight on Beasley even though he's been superior to Beli his whole career?
I don't expect the FO to be perfect, but signing Ayres and Beli and bringing in Young and Maggette showed where their priorities lay. The team wasn't caught in a bad situation. They just made a decision that looks like it could be a mistake. Only time will tell if they were right, but if it shows them to be wrong, it is their faults.
I'm surprised no one's bumper this. Beli had a of a game. Hats off to him, and I hope it continues. I'd love for the Spurs' FO to look like geniuses for their acquisition of him and for me to look like a fool for doubting him. Still think it was the wrong move, though.
a lot of us were fans of getting Beli, i think at this point we just feel pity for the Neal > Belinelli crowd.
surprised you weren't a fan of getting him, he's the perfect insurance for the usual Manu injury/breakdown.
Beli continues to show why he's a massive upgrade over Gary. Patty's emergence makes Marco's scoring a little redundant but he brings a lot more to the table as evidenced by his statline tonight. Can't have too many shot-makers when things slow down in the playoffs. It's not Beli's fault that the Spurs overpaid for Manu and handed out a lottery ticket to Jeff tbh
He's good at that and playing off Manu. But the Spurs had no Leonard insurance, and that was more important. The team had a ton of guards, all of whom are playing well right now. It wasn't smart to not use the MLE on a backup three, considering how many were available.
It's nice to have Beli when everyone's healthy or when he has a night like tonight. But it would have been even nicer to have Webster for the past month. All can be fixed with a smart trade, though.
No trades happening.. Beli's deal was dirt cheap considering we didn't know Patty was going to get serious about the game of basketball, get into better shape etc.. Signing Ayres was a mistake, giving Manu that much money was a mistake... giving tiago that much money on the first 2 years was a mistake as well..
None of those things prevented the Spurs from getting an MLE forward. Only signing Beli did. The fact that Beli was a bargain means nothing if the team fails to address its biggest need.
he by far is better then neal
Marco Belinelli saw Raven's post here and posted a monster stat line so we can all rag on him tonight. So... BUMP!!!
I am actually curious as to whether or not the Spurs anticipated bringing over Jean-Charles or Bertans this past off-season. Perhaps they signed Belli with that in mind?
That being said, I still like the signing even if he is being forced to play out of position. The Spurs really need someone who has a chance of creating their own shot outside of the big 3. Patty has stepped it up, but other than he Belli, and Diaw, I don't trust the ball to be dribbled by anyone else in the rotation outside of the big 3 and Diaw.
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