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    i tolt you, that last finals experience ruin everything, messed up everyone that part of Spurs organization... this off season they had a unique chance to bring great addition and much needed upgrade to the team to give Timmy a must support for possibly his last run for a le... instead Spurs screw all up and miss amazing opportunity that they had in their hands, but i guss it was expected and we should used to it after the finals and game 6...

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    Milsap was there but he was probably the only realistic option spurs choose to go with size.neal,jax and Blair will b gone I'm just not sold yet on belli and this pendegraph kid being upgrades but I hope I'm wrong .

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    Best case is the Spurs do a trade and expiring contracts are enough to get it done. Bonner/Boris combined can bring back a player making over 8M. If you add in Nando or Mills, you can easily get close to 10M back in a trade.
    Come February some team will be looking for expiring deals to unload a player. The Spurs may be planning on going that route.

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    Even if it has something like a 1% odds of happening, the last hope for Spurs to do something significant this summer would be that Spurs had pushed Bonner guaranteed deadline and use him in a trade. With his contract partially guaranteed, Spurs being far from the luxury tax and the new CBA allowing teams to take 150%+$100K, Spurs could eat up a lot of salaries.

    To me, that scenario is way more remote than Spurs signing a player with cap space created by a Bonner amnesty, so I'm just talking about because it's theoretically possible.

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    Which free agent that has signed would you have liked the Spurs to have gotten? I get why people are disappointed but I'm not exactly upset that the Spurs didn't sign anyone who was an actual free agent this off season other than Kirelenko but I'm not sure he was ever a real possibility for what the Spurs had under the cap. I certainly wasn't a fan of anyone else they were linked to. I think the Spurs had to pay a bit too much to retain their own free agents in order to really make a huge impact this off season.
    Would rather Millsap for two than Splitter for four years at basically the same cost tbh

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    The draft and stash doesn't bother me either. There wasn't anyone in the draft at that point that I really felt would give the Spurs a good player outside of - and god it paints me to say this - possibly Jamal Franklin. This draft does feel a like going after Mahimni though.

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    So is there definitely no chance the Spurs match an offer to Neal? I mean Woj said in his initial article that the Spurs would still like to keep him. It doesn't make much sense but yeah.

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    Spurs started this season with a late first round pick and very good financial flexibility. They are now at a stage where they can only offer min contracts and what they have done is basically standing pat with Belinelli replacing Neal and Pendergraph replacing Blair. Jackson/McGrady hasn't been replaced for the moment.

    You can spin it as much as you want with saying that Spurs should be fine next season, which is true, and that they will have tons of cap space in 2015, which is also true but the bottom line is that Spurs of season has been a big disappointment. They had an opportunity to get really better and they did nothing.
    Entirely right. This could have been a great off-season to add at least one impact player without blowing up the team, but as far as we know, that didn't happen. I felt the team was caught between going under the cap and staying over it, and they made a couple of strange moves as a result.

    If they planned to go over the cap, they should have waived Bonner and tried to get Ginobili to take less by having a free agent waiting to sign with the new cap space. If Ginobili refused, they could have unloaded De Colo or Mills to make more room.

    If they wanted to stay over the cap, they should have tried to trade Bonner for the best deal they could have gotten or at least drafted a player they could have used this season.

    So now I'm not sure what they plan to do. They certainly have the financial flexibility to acquire some good players still, but they'll probably just stand pat save adding a 15th player. I agree with bringing back the same team for the most part, but the back end of the roster could have really been transformed without hurting the main rotation players. I'm disappointed, but I'm also curious to see what they do now. There's still the summer league to look forward to, and I won't consider free agency over until after those players get signed.

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    Would rather Millsap for two than Splitter for four years at basically the same cost tbh
    I'm not a huge fan of Splitter but honestly next to Duncan I'd rather have Splitter starting.

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    The Spurs needed another PF that could score. I mean Duncan is ing 38 next season. Think about that.

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    Not waiving Bonner was probably the biggest mistake this off season so far. Keeping him and then making these moves really doesn't make sense to me. I don't want to on Manu but I'm starting to buy DPG's theory.

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    The Spurs needed another PF that could score. I mean Duncan is ing 38 next season. Think about that.
    If Duncan falls off then we're done anyway. Gonna ride that horse till he can't go anymore. No one expected last season from him. Maybe lightning strikes twice.

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    So is there definitely no chance the Spurs match an offer to Neal? I mean Woj said in his initial article that the Spurs would still like to keep him. It doesn't make much sense but yeah.
    We already have a billion guards but if they prefer Neal to DeColo and Mills and Neal's offer is small then I think there's a chance they keep him and move the other two. Assuming they can go over the cap to match. Not sure how that would work.

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    Well the Spurs better ride Leonard all season long and pray he can handle it. No more of this go sit in the corner bull . Dude needs to get up 15+ shot attempts per game.

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    Just so I'm clear - I'm not saying this is the way I wanted the offseason to play out. Obviously I wasn't waiting in anticipation for Jeff Pendergraph (I do like Bellineli though) but I also don't see this as the end of the world. Its a meh offseason. The truth is that if Duncan and Manu really do regress over the next season then we're done as contenders anyway. At this point I can see why the Spurs would want to pin their hopes on Tim and Manu playing well over the next two years over gambling in free agency.
    Not that you're speaking directly to me, but you just basically said you were disappointed. I think that's where most of the rest of us are...opportunity lost. It's not that a repeat of last year CAN'T happen...just that it likely won't with the same core.

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    Not that you're speaking directly to me, but you just basically said you were disappointed. I think that's where most of the rest of us are...opportunity lost. It's not that a repeat of last year CAN'T happen...just that it likely won't with the same core.
    I guess I just never really expect the Spurs to make a big move regarding free agents. Whens the last time that happened?

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    Terrible offseason and a bad contract for Pendergraph.

    They're not paying him double to have to compete with Baynes for the 5th big spot, they're giving it to him. Which means no Baynes opportunity, someone who sure looked like he could play and could have helped the Spurs.

    And that money could have been useful as the market dries up more and other players get desperate for more than the minimum. Blowing it on a non-factor like Pendergraph to not even be in the rotation this early in free agency doesn't make sense.

    About the offseason: this nonsense about the Spurs doing great after offseasons where they made few moves is straight garbage.

    Summer 2007 was like this. Coming off a Finals win, what did they do? Refuse to improve. Trade Scola away when he would have been a very cost efficient way to improve. And they just had to re-sign Oberto and Vaughn. They were so determined to be the same that they completely forgot the rest of the league would try to improve. And were caught with their pants down when the Lakers colluded to get Pau.

    Last year the change came from Splitter finally allowed to be a starter. There are no more tricks like that to pull with this roster.

    What has changed that makes them better than the team that lost to Miami? Nothing.

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    The Spurs needed another PF that could score. I mean Duncan is ing 38 next season. Think about that.

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    Fans see Bonner as a scrub that needs to be get rid off.Pop sees him differently,obviously.He will probably get a new contract next summer.

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    To summarize: Spurs all in all are in good shape, and as we all know many things can happen over the course of the season. The Spurs still have some wiggle room to make moves throughout the year. Having said that, their moves and players they are going to sign have made very little sense in the context of the picture as we see it and we just have to see how it shakes out. Oh, and Manu took a lot of money and didn't really do the Spurs any favors despite being a massive let down in the finals and missing a ton of games last year. Again.

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    Fans see Bonner as a scrub that needs to be get rid off.Pop sees him differently,obviously.He will probably get a new contract next summer.
    Bonner will be apart of another project and will probably see minutes at the 3.

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    Fans see Bonner as a scrub that needs to be get rid off.Pop sees him differently,obviously.He will probably get a new contract next summer.
    99% he will.

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    I like this signing. Pendergraph will be more valuable than blair was, he adds toughness to our soft frontcourt, he seems to have a decent midrange jumper, and draftexpress acurately lists him as 6-10 in shoes. That size will help
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    Manu is probably good for 40 games next year. I wouldn't object to the Spurs matching Neal's contract (given it's a reasonable one) and getting rid of Mills + De Colo.

    Gives us a load of guards who obviously all want to play but we can spread out the minutes to keep everyone happy. Plus, if something bad happens to Manu (somewhat likely) at least we have proven and capable guards to pick up the slack.

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    To summarize: Spurs all in all are in good shape, and as we all know many things can happen over the course of the season. The Spurs still have some wiggle room to make moves throughout the year. Having said that, their moves and players they are going to sign have made very little sense in the context of the picture as we see it and we just have to see how it shakes out. Oh, and Manu took a lot of money and didn't really do the Spurs any favors despite being a massive let down in the finals and missing a ton of games last year. Again.
    That's what makes me nervous about ginobili spurs had to keep him but now he's gotta do more then he did last season or its wasted $$ tbh.I don't think this long playoff run is gonna do him any favors heading into another 82 game season .

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