Manu on the Spurs future

[Mel_13]

Tim makes roughly makes 50% now than his previous contract. But he contributed much more than that. I'm also hoping that Manu can find that gear next post season and justify his roughly 50% new contract. I don't get the sense that he accepts yet what his body can and can't do as Tim has and come up with a plan. Might be harder for him to do so. I'm glad he's still here but I hope he can get through another year of regular and post season. He got healthy at the right time this post season and was still limited. I'm hoping for a Manu "Kerr" Ginobili.

Manu "Barry" Ginobili, tbh.

[ElNono]

It's missing a few parts in spanish... but broadly, what he said on those I translated on that other thread, plus the NT stuff that was already posted, and some small funny parts like "lol timvp, lol Grizzlies in 6", etc...

[Bruno]

My biggest issue with how Ginobili has behaved after the playoffs is that he seemed somewhat fine with how he played. It's like a good game 5 against Miami was enough to please him.

[CitizenDwayne]

My biggest issue with how Ginobili has behaved after the playoffs is that he seemed somewhat fine with how he played. It's like a good game 5 against Miami was enough to please him.

Pretty much. There's been a lot of "we didn't play good enough", not "I didn't play good enough".

Not saying he should be constantly dwelling on it, but owning up to his failures would be nice.

I'm still not sure what kind of realistic numbers I would expect Manu to put up next season, honestly. He's such a wild card it's hard to make an estimate.

[ElNono]

Pretty much. There's been a lot of "we didn't play good enough", not "I didn't play good enough".

Not saying he should be constantly dwelling on it, but owning up to his failures would be nice.

I'm still not sure what kind of realistic numbers I would expect Manu to put up next season, honestly. He's such a wild card it's hard to make an estimate.

"During the Finals I felt I was so so, especially on the games the team needed me the most, games 2, 4 and 6, which were the worst in my case. That hurt me."

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=218486

[ChumpDumper]

So-so?

[Whisky Dog]

Honestly I'm disappointed he didn't make a little concession since his ty play cost the team a championship, but it's a business and he needs to do what's best for him

[ElNono]

So-so?

This was what he wrote in Spanish:

"Durante la final yo me sentí más o menos, sobre todo en los partidos en que el equipo más me necesitaba, el 2, el 4 y el 6, que fueron los peores en mi caso. Eso me dolió."

If anybody has a better translation, chime in...

[CitizenDwayne]

"During the Finals I felt I was so so, especially on the games the team needed me the most, games 2, 4 and 6, which were the worst in my case. That hurt me."

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=218486

I wasn't aware of that. Thanks.

Still, "so so" is the understatement of the century. He was dog in Game 6. I'm sure he knows that, though, and I hope (though I don't necessarily believe) that that will light a fire in him.

[ElNono]

I wasn't aware of that. Thanks.

Still, "so so" is the understatement of the century. He was dog in Game 6. I'm sure he knows that, though, and I hope (though I don't necessarily believe) that that will light a fire in him.

I think that was what Bruno was pointing out. But he did "own up" to his mostly poor games.

[ElNono]

Manu needs to get his shooting touch back... don't know if it's working with Chip during training camp, or just get some strengthening in his legs. We'll see, but that's going to help him and the Spurs a lot.

[m33p0]

no more summer ball, manu. please.

[Brutalis]

All I heard... "I wanted to get paid. I know my game has fallen quite a bit, but you know, I am Manu. I invented the Euro-step remember? Pay me, more than I may deserve, so I can continue to commit game crushing turnovers and miss shots my younger more capable self used to make."

[Agloco]

FIFY, it's a pet peeve of mine although I assume it was just an accident

T'was no accident. I honestly don't (didn't) know how to spell his name. Be prepared to do this for pretty much all of my posts from now on.

[timvp]

I've defended Manu but .............. @ so-so

If he misses the flight to Miami, we'd be contemplating the elusive back-to-back, tbh.

[ElNono]

don't shoot the messenger

[tmtcsc]

I've defended Manu but .............. @ so-so

If he misses the flight to Miami, we'd be contemplating the elusive back-to-back, tbh.

I agree. "So-so" was a poor choice of words. I'm thinking "Pretty terrible", "Off my game", "Turnover-prone", "Awful" would have been accurate.

[SpursSerb]

Overpaid and no self-criticism.Pull your head out of your ass Manu.

[Agloco]

A product of being so close to winning it all: More fan hate. smh.

[TheGoldStandard]

It's about what you can expect from Manu..

[sammy]

All I heard... "I wanted to get paid. I know my game has fallen quite a bit, but you know, I am Manu. I invented the Euro-step remember? Pay me, more than I may deserve, so I can continue to commit game crushing turnovers and miss shots my younger more capable self used to make."

Hater GTFO!

[DPG21920]

Manu is being a liar.

[slick'81]

We love u manu

[apalisoc_9]

I've heard Manu use words he didn't mean or didn't make sense at all before. He has criticized his play in finals already.

Maybe it's just a lanauge thing. If you've been around immigrants regardless of how long they've been in the states or any other English speaking nation, they always use terms that donest fit their message. I hope people consider that before jumping to conclusions. And like i've already said, he already criticized his game as bad, why change it to "so-so"?..Poor choice of words i would say.

[DPG21920]

Manu has been a real piece of work from the finals on tbh..He really seems to not care all that much and if this his evaluation (which would explain him taking about as much money as you could expect) then how I feel about him is more than justified.


One subtle thing to look for, which I will preface is strictly speculation on my part, is the trust issue. For the first time ever, there is a risk of TP/TD/Pop not trusting Manu. I think they always did and really could live with him, but deep down they know what cost them the finals. After seeing that and how gutted Duncan was, I don't know if they will ever quite see Manu the same way. Especially if they hear he honestly believes he played so-so.

I'm not saying they won't pass him the ball or even talk bad about him, but the thing that has always been there and allowed this team to win is that trust between Pop/TD/TP/Manu. Will be interesting to see if Pop starts yanking him out of most key moments, not going to him and if the Big 2 don't really see him as a big 3 member any more.