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I'm not going to search for the posts. They do exist if you need to satisfy your curiosity.
Watch Leonard highlights against Miami, even against Lebron, one of the best wing defenders in the NBA, tbh..
There's also Leonard vs. Bulls and Thunder with at least 1 of the big 3 not playing, off the top of my head..
They were giving him the ball and letting him create, which worked well, tbh..
The beauty of Kawhi's game is that he already has advanced post skills for a player his age, and he already has a go-to move on the wing with the drive and pivot fadeaway..he needs to work on his footwork and handles during the off-season, which is what Paul George did last year after displaying the same flaws as Kawhi, tbh..
The Spurs would be ing foolish if they don't have a vast Leonard package next year, tbh..
I'm not going to search for the posts. They do exist if you need to satisfy your curiosity.
Keeping Bonner was probably just that. It wasn't the cap move people were hoping for. There wasn't any reason to think it was, just illogical speculation.
I said that using their MLE to sign players like Belinelli and Pendergraph was probably option A. The fact that it was those players and not others is probably due to the fact that almost everyone got overpaid this off-season. I can't think of another combination of shooters and bigs that could have worked -- maybe Dunlevy and Kenyon Martin? I don't think their first option was to use cap space on a big free agent.
I also assume that they did (and might still) intend to keep Neal. Had they done so, they would have had more of the MLE to do pretty much nothing of importance with. In fact, had the Spurs intended to keep him while also using cap space, they probably would have agreed to a deal with him early. That they didn't and still signed someone to replace him suggests they didn't want to go under the cap.
I saw the posts. What is your response to the Woj tweet?
Part of the problem was Parker, tbh..
It's blasphemy to criticize Tony Parker here to veteran posters, but his insistence on challenging Lebron in pick&roll and 1-on-1, rather than going to Duncan or Kawhi's mismatch in the post was a major problem with the offense, tbh..
Leonard's post efficiency in the playoffs was elite, tbh, albeit mostly against mismatches when a wing defender would cover Tony, tbh..
That there were conflicting reports? Woj is the best, but he's not getting anything straight from Pop or RC (contract numbers, for example).
The Spurs actions, for someone interested in drawing logical conclusions from known facts, are most consistent with the notion that signing Beli means that Neal will not be coming back.
They weren't intricate to the offense.. It wasn't like, we brought in Diaw and Jackson and started calling plays for them same with Splitter.
You're moving the goalposts. My response was based the words you used in your initial post.
I am thinking that the difficulty lies in his conditioning in the offseason. I really do not know what regimen the Spurs have him on but they need to start reconsidering how much they want to use him. Tim was different in the aspect that his game did not diminish substantially because he was always reliant upon his fundamentals and b-ball IQ, whereas Manu had his IQ but also athleticism to boast. Now that he has lost a step, I think he is struggling in compensating for his weaknesses. To be quite honest, Manu always breaks down mid-season at some point and his durability is suspect. Pop managed his minutes pretty well until the point TP got hurt and Manu was forced to play more. I think he needs to learn how to understand his body will not allow him to have the same level of impact he did earlier in his career. I don't think Manu is done by any stretch, he just can't be asked to log consistently significant minutes every game. 15-20 minutes a game seems to be his threshold. Anything more than that and I think the risk for injury increases by the minute.
god damn this forum is all over manu for anything and everything. give the man a break. he's one of us and always will be.
I think one of the biggest things to address is that the other team shouldn't be able to put their best defender on TP without Green/Leonard being able to make them pay.
The isos worked really well in game 5 and Parker's bucket that put the lead to 5 in game 6 came of an isolation. The key is that if we could have forced Chalmers to defend TP more we would have walked away with the championship.
I think it's more Manu's mindset. He needs to look to be more aggressive.
so so is a very, very generous term
Hey, that's what he said... that was posted in response to a claim of no personal accountability... I think the second part of that sentence is exactly that.
hablo un poco de espanol....but maybe "so-so" is Spanish vernacular for ing ty or epic chokejob, imho.....
Manu is a pro. Playing basketball is what he does. He'll figure things out physically and he will contribute.
I know Nono I'm not saying you said that but his own evaluation of his game surprises me...no one is usually harder on Manu than himself, so it's kinda weird that most of us felt he played one of if not the worst series in his career and he described his play as "so-so"
If you look at the stats, he had more or less the same numbers he had all season long, which were very "so-so" like. Everybody is blowing Manu's "poor play" way out of proportion because: (a) We lost the series, if we would have won everybody would be talking about his game 5 or his more than decent game 7 showing (b) The TO's on game 6 obviously. But if you look closely at the entirety of the series he pretty much played at the same level he did all year and on the other playoffs series.
Take out game 5 and 7 and it looks awful. And I don't think he was so-so last season, he had the worst season of his career easily. I know he probably has a lot of advanced metrics to say otherwise and probably some nice +/- numbers but going by the eye test Manu just wasn't the Manu we're used to in the 2013 season.
TRUTH!
On ST Manu's numbers are seen as good or bad depending on if the Spurs win or lose. The truth is he played the finals on par with how he played all season long, that's why I don't understand the people that put this series loss almost entirely on Manu's back.
Only re s would think that. imo Manu was dog most of the Finals but he wasn't the reason the Spurs lost, or at least the sole reason. Obviously if he played better the Spurs have a better chance of winning but what you said is true and that's my point...he was not very good last season and his play in the postseason was the same if not worse. So saying his playoff performance was in line with his regular season only proves that he has definitely started to decline big time last season
I think people had high expectations from him, and I also think that save for a couple games, his shot never really appeared. In general, it's disappointing because he's a guy that normally elevates his game in the playoffs, and this time he couldn't will it, and it didn't happen.
I understand some people are still upset about the finals, and it's difficult for them to move on (not necessarily you), but up to game 6 in that series, turnovers weren't actually his problem at all, his poor shooting was. Something I pointed out at after Game 4. When I said he played 'ok' back then, people said "well, he can't play any worse", well, turns out he can. He only had one "great" game (5), and he had a truly terrible game (6). The rest was indeed so-so (from the optic of what he did all season). It was obviously compounded by poor shooting, which is a bad combo, but it happens.
I'm probably gonna get grilled by some of these thoughts, mostly from people that will keep going back to game 6 and 7, and I understand that the grieving process takes time, so it's fine by me. There's also a lot of glass half-empty feeling here when it comes to Manu or the team overall, and while I understand it, I think it's misguided. They literally had enough, errors and all, to win it all. Literally a bounce away. Against a phenomenal team that dispatched the Durant/Westbrook/Harden OKC in 5 games.
In a way, I think this event will finally make people adjust expectations about Manu. He isn't the 26 year old guy anymore. Even then, he's still damn useful for this team and what this team is trying to do with the personnel it has. They might not make the Finals next season, but as Pop said, people have been predicting the wheels to fall off for way too many years now, and they still have not. So I'm not going to doubt now and just gonna sit back and enjoy whatever they have for us.
It's hard to blame other parties when the Spurs' coach could have kept his top 10 all-time big in the game to corral a rebound, tbh..
Not only that, but way too much Danny Green in Game 7, and way too little Boris Diaw.
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