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    It's hard to blame other parties when the Spurs' coach could have kept his top 10 all-time big in the game to corral a rebound, tbh..
    That's the one I am angry with the most. Tim should have been out there to rebound. The thing is though, what if Tim was out there and Miami hit both of those threes on the first shot? It's tough to say that it would have been better to have Tim out there to rebound the ball. IMO, I think it would have been better to have him out there, but Miami might have gotten better looks and made both on the first attempt. Maybe they make the first, and then Pop pulls Tim the second time around and they make that one too. Anything could have happened, even with Tim on the floor it could have all gone wrong in that scenario too, but IMO, the Spurs would have had a better chance with him on then floor than off. You just don't know really, it was a tough situation and decision to make on those two defensive possessions. Really ed up way to lose the Finals.

    Also, the Spurs should never have put Kawhi in the situation of having to hit both of those free throws. He got better as the playoffs went along, but against Goldenstate, he was really struggling to hit his free throws and had to be taken aside by Tim in one of those games to calm him down. Kawhi got much more confident in himself by the time the Spurs made it to the finals (which was very good to see), but I still don't like that the Spurs couldn't get the ball to their best free throw shooters in that situation.

    Stupid, stupid mistakes that I am still upset about. Overall, I am OK compared to some of the other posters , it's just that every time I recall the end of game 6 and those errors, it's hard not to get mad about it. Spurs threw the Championship away. They gotta be mad about it, and hopefully they use it all of next season to right that wrong.
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    That's the one I am angry with the most. Tim should have been out there to rebound. The thing is though, what if Tim was out there and Miami hit both of those threes on the first shot? It's tough to say that it would have been better to have Tim out there to rebound the ball. IMO, I think it would have been better to have him out there, but Miami might have gotten better looks and made both on the first attempt. Maybe they make the first, and then Pop pulls Tim the second time around and they make that one too. Anything could have happened, even with Tim on the floor it could have all gone wrong in that scenario too, but IMO, the Spurs would have had a better chance with him on then floor than off. You just don't know really, it was a tough situation and decision to make on those two defensive possessions. Really ed up way to lose the Finals.

    Also, the Spurs should never have put Kawhi in the situation of having to hit both of those free throws. He got better as the playoffs went along, but against Goldenstate, he was really struggling to hit his free throws and had to be taken aside by Tim in one of those games to calm him down. Kawhi got much more confident in himself by the time the Spurs made it to the finals (which was very good to see), but I still don't like that the Spurs couldn't get the ball to their best free throw shooters in that situation.

    Stupid, stupid mistakes that I am still upset about. Overall, I am OK compared to some of the other posters , it's just that every time I recall the end of game 6 and those errors, it's hard not to get mad about it. Spurs threw the Championship away. They gotta be mad about it, and hopefully they use it all of next season to right that wrong.
    it just seems in life, it's the self inflicted that always gets to you. I'd say I'm dealing with the loss pretty well, then suddenly I think about the self inflicted and it pisses me off. mainly that image of Timmy in the dumps is what bothers me the most. as for Pop and Manu, I think the anger from some on here, including myself, is that they didn't seem to realize their mistakes. Manu's comments about "so-so" for an epically ty performance, Pop's comments after the loss, perhaps felt hollow or misguided compared to that brutal interview with Timmy after the Finals. then again, it's possible that privately both Pop and Manu have taken this very hard and don't want to show that to the media.

    There were a ton of mistakes to go around, most caused by the most stacked team in the league. like you said above, it pisses me off to no end that Pop pulled our best rebounder, but who knows, what if they got their 3 off better with Duncan there. You could replay it a bunch of different times. Manu wasn't the only one screwing up, it's just out of the big 3, no one else imploded quite like he did, just an epic ty Finals from him minus game 5. Even before the turnovers, his passing was atrocious and you knew it was bound to get worse.

    You have to wonder what is worse for the team and the fans, to lose the way we did from self inflicted wounds or to get blown out by the Heat. I think as fans, we would've rather avoided :28 seconds, because we have to deal with that forever from head Laker fans and nothing we can do about it. Perhaps the players would rather have lost the way they did, because if they simply got blown out, maybe they'd feel it's time to call it quits and phone it in, but perhaps seeing how they could've easily won against the supposedly unstoppable Heat, maybe it reenforces a belief or confidence.

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    Manu has been a real piece of work from the finals on tbh..He really seems to not care all that much and if this his evaluation (which would explain him taking about as much money as you could expect) then how I feel about him is more than justified.


    One subtle thing to look for, which I will preface is strictly speculation on my part, is the trust issue. For the first time ever, there is a risk of TP/TD/Pop not trusting Manu. I think they always did and really could live with him, but deep down they know what cost them the finals. After seeing that and how gutted Duncan was, I don't know if they will ever quite see Manu the same way. Especially if they hear he honestly believes he played so-so.

    I'm not saying they won't pass him the ball or even talk bad about him, but the thing that has always been there and allowed this team to win is that trust between Pop/TD/TP/Manu. Will be interesting to see if Pop starts yanking him out of most key moments, not going to him and if the Big 2 don't really see him as a big 3 member any more.
    I mentioned in the game thread of the finals that TD looked manu off after manu had called for the ball and passed to green of all people. That's all the indication of not trusting someone that i need.

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    That's the one I am angry with the most. Tim should have been out there to rebound. The thing is though, what if Tim was out there and Miami hit both of those threes on the first shot? It's tough to say that it would have been better to have Tim out there to rebound the ball. IMO, I think it would have been better to have him out there, but Miami might have gotten better looks and made both on the first attempt. Maybe they make the first, and then Pop pulls Tim the second time around and they make that one too. Anything could have happened, even with Tim on the floor it could have all gone wrong in that scenario too, but IMO, the Spurs would have had a better chance with him on then floor than off. You just don't know really, it was a tough situation and decision to make on those two defensive possessions. Really ed up way to lose the Finals.

    Also, the Spurs should never have put Kawhi in the situation of having to hit both of those free throws. He got better as the playoffs went along, but against Goldenstate, he was really struggling to hit his free throws and had to be taken aside by Tim in one of those games to calm him down. Kawhi got much more confident in himself by the time the Spurs made it to the finals (which was very good to see), but I still don't like that the Spurs couldn't get the ball to their best free throw shooters in that situation.

    Stupid, stupid mistakes that I am still upset about. Overall, I am OK compared to some of the other posters , it's just that every time I recall the end of game 6 and those errors, it's hard not to get mad about it. Spurs threw the Championship away. They gotta be mad about it, and hopefully they use it all of next season to right that wrong.
    You're making it more complicated than it is. TD is one of the best defenders and rebounders to play the game ever. It was the most important defensive stop in Spurs history. You play him. It's that simple.

    Gary Neal has more lateral quickness than Tim but he's a horrible defender. Just because you have quicker guys out there doesn't mean your going to play better defense. Having better defenders does.

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    You're making it more complicated than it is. TD is one of the best defenders and rebounders to play the game ever. It was the most important defensive stop in Spurs history. You play him. It's that simple.

    Gary Neal has more lateral quickness than Tim but he's a horrible defender. Just because you have quicker guys out there doesn't mean your going to play better defense. Having better defenders does.
    I would have had Tim on the court in that scenario 100% of the time if it was my decision on those two possessions. I was just saying there is still a small chance that might not have worked out even with him out there.

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