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    I don't know what's so puzzling... Spurs wanted the same team back, stalled a potential bid war for Neal by bringing Belli, and replaced Blair with Pendergraph. If there was a shot at trading up for better talent (ie: AK) good, but hardly a priority. This FO hardly ever gambles.

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    I doubt that Bonner and Crap was what appealed to the Twolves. I think it was Bonner+Green. Maybe Diaw+Green.
    get over your Green theory tbh

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    Marc Stein had them on Kirilenko on July 1st

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    I don't know what's so puzzling... Spurs wanted the same team back, stalled a potential bid war for Neal by bringing Belli, and replaced Blair with Pendergraph. If there was a shot at trading up for better talent (ie: AK) good, but hardly a priority. This FO hardly ever gambles.
    AK is not really a gamble.. he's a bench guy and that probably would have been understood, would still have been getting minutes and even if he sucked at offense his defense is still something.

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    this sucks

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    Perhaps part of the S&T scenario was to amnesty Bonner.

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    I don't know what's so puzzling... Spurs wanted the same team back, stalled a potential bid war for Neal by bringing Belli, and replaced Blair with Pendergraph. If there was a shot at trading up for better talent (ie: AK) good, but hardly a priority. This FO hardly ever gambles.
    Kirelenko isn't really a gamble. Not having a replacement for Neal or Blair hardly qualify as gambles either. Waiving Bonner early isn't a gamble. These really are some bad mistakes by the FO. I'm not usually critical - and I've defended them this offseason - but we didn't really need Neal or Blair replacements or Matt Bonner as much as we needed a guy like AK.

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    get over your Green theory tbh
    Who do you think the TWolves found appealing then? Do you think Danny Green is somehow untradeable?

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    Spurs not good

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    Marc Stein had them on Kirilenko on July 1st
    So now Kirilenko is looking at MLE offers. Much more appropriate for his age.

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    Perhaps part of the S&T scenario was to amnesty Bonner.
    Perhaps but at the same time factoring in what they could have done by not signing Pendergraph or Marco 1st and Amnestying bonner to begin with they could have freed up cap space much sooner and locked in this deal.

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    So now Kirilenko is looking at MLE offers. Much more appropriate for his age.
    Maybe - maybe not. If he ends up getting an MLE deal then it makes the Spurs moves even worse, IMO.

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    I doubt that Bonner and Crap was what appealed to the Twolves. I think it was Bonner+Green. Maybe Diaw+Green.
    They are giving Kevin Martin 4 years 28 mil. If green was involved they would have done the deal in a heart beat.

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    I don't know what's so puzzling... Spurs wanted the same team back, stalled a potential bid war for Neal by bringing Belli, and replaced Blair with Pendergraph. If there was a shot at trading up for better talent (ie: AK) good, but hardly a priority. This FO hardly ever gambles.
    what's puzzling is that we had loads of cap room and didn't do anything productive with it, when the opportunity was there. "in a bubble" i wasn't upset with the tiago contract, or even the Manu contract, for that matter. but when you put them together, it really hampered our offseason's potential. and if one of them was to take less, it would be your boy Manu. based on his minutes, his production, and inability to stay healthy, he should have agreed to a smaller sum. all in all, i'm glad he's back. its just we were so happy we got out of the RJ contract 1 year early, but we could have made the EXACT same moves even with that contract in the books.

    for years people have been talking about the closing window, and I think at this point we are going with the theory that the window is open as long as the big 3 are around. now that there is a firm expiration date on that (2015), i think the FO should have done absolutely everything in its power to load up for the last ride. can we win with the team as currently constructed? sure. we darn near did just a few weeks ago. but if they could have taken a measure or two to increase those odds, it should have been a priority.

    this is why its puzzling, at least to me

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    AK is not really a gamble.. he's a bench guy and that probably would have been understood, would still have been getting minutes and even if he sucked at offense his defense is still something.
    No, you're missing the point. They could've done all this ass backward moves to try to clear $8m in cap space then Cavs come in and offer AK $12m/4 years. That's the gamble. I think they feel pretty good with the team we have. That's the priority. If you can improve from there, good.

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    so it's completely over? No chance now? And no Danny Green wasn't apart of that possible sign & trade.

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    If Kahn were still with the Twolves AK would be a Spur by now imo

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    Yet they haven't signed anyone. Yet.

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    They are giving Kevin Martin 4 years 28 mil. If green was involved they would have done the deal in a heart beat.
    They wanted to do the deal. It was the total salary for the players they were getting they balked at. Woj's article said this.

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    So now Kirilenko is looking at MLE offers. Much more appropriate for his age.
    If kirilinko is seriously willing to accept the MLE we should honestly flip the bird to Belinelli and Pendergraph
    none of these contract agreements are set in stone yet

    i know i'm speaking idiot, but i'm delusional right now

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    No, you're missing the point. They could've done all this ass backward moves to try to clear $8m in cap space then Cavs come in and offer AK $12m/4 years. That's the gamble. I think they feel pretty good with the team we have. That's the priority. If you can improve from there, good.
    So you're telling me this team would be much worse off if they didn't have Pendergraph, Belinelli and Bonner? Ehhhhhh.

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    I'm mad.

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    No, you're missing the point. They could've done all this ass backward moves to try to clear $8m in cap space then Cavs come in and offer AK $12m/4 years. That's the gamble. I think they feel pretty good with the team we have. That's the priority. If you can improve from there, good.
    Now you wait and allow Kirilenko to find out the market price is the MLE for him.

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    fckin Spurs.

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    No, you're missing the point. They could've done all this ass backward moves to try to clear $8m in cap space then Cavs come in and offer AK $12m/4 years. That's the gamble. I think they feel pretty good with the team we have. That's the priority. If you can improve from there, good.
    There had to have been a price tag in discussions early on that would have indicated where the Spurs needed to be.. I have a strong feeling this was an afterthought, they signed players and then were like we have way too many guards.. lets see if we can tempt TWolves to make a deal to give us AK..

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