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  1. #76
    Drive for Five! ambchang's Avatar
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    I don't care about the excuses, he came back before playoffs began and was in shape, just couldn't win without Rodman's rebounding. When they had Rodman next year they spanked Orlando.
    The point was, he was obviously not in shape.

    It was the only year out of 11 straight years he did not lead the league in scoring.
    His per minute scoring was the lowest in any one of his other seasons with the Bulls.
    It was the only year out of 9 straight years he did not lead the league in win shares per 48 minutes
    He had by far the year he had his lowest PER in any Bulls years.

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    Drive for Five! ambchang's Avatar
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    Kool aid le is somewhat right if, you go by one on one matchup.
    That is cherry picking to the extreme.

    Why pick only 86 to 88? They were not Bird's best years, as he won his three straight MVP years from 84 to 86. In fact, Bird played 4 out of 6 possible games in 87 to 88.

    Let's look at all the numbers.

    In 84 to 85, Jordan averaged 32.5 ppg, 7.2 reb and 5.5 assists vs. Bird, who had 23/6.2/2.8. And that was Bird's MVP season and Jordan's rookie season.
    85 to 86, Jordan had 20/2/1 vs. 32/6/8. Jordan only played one game in the year where he broke his foot.
    86 to 87, Jordan had 29.7/5.5/4.8, Bird had 33.8/7.8/7.5
    87-88, Jordan had 39.3/4/7.5, Bird had 33.5/9/6.3
    88-89, Jordan had 52/3/2 (and 9 steals), while Bird had 18/10/6. This is the year where Bird was really hampered by injuries, and was never the same since.
    89-90, Jordan had 32/7.3/7.7, Bird 29.3/8.3/7.7
    90-91, Jordan had 37.5/7/7.8, Bird 23/10.3/4.8
    91-92, Jordan had 30/8/4.7, Bird 16/4.7/6.3

    Overall, Jordan 33.5/6.1/5.8, Bird 26.9/7.7/5.8

    Sure Bird was hampered by injuries in most of those games, but even when we look at the 3 years where both of the players were healthy, Jordan bettered Bird in 2 out of the 3 years, and that is taking into account that one of the year was Jordan's rookie year.

    In terms of records, it's no secret Bird had McHale, Parish, DJ and Ainge, while Jordan had Oakley (good player), Dave Corzine and Orlando Woolridge. I mean, give me a break.

    I have always thought that Bird was underrated, and still maintained so. Bird, in his three MVP years, was every bit as dominant as Jordan and Shaq was in their peaks, with all three more dominant than Lebron is now. That said, Jordan simply had a much longer peak due to luck (as in less injury issues).

    In H2H during healthy years, I would say they were tied, with a slight advantage going to Jordan.

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    you are a faggot Phillip's Avatar
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    Larry Bird gets underrated a lot in all time discussions.

    Bird > Magic without question imo, and anyone who says Bird isnt top 5 all times is a moron. He is top 3 in my book, behind only MJ and Kareem.

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    Larry Bird gets underrated a lot in all time discussions.

    Bird > Magic without question imo, and anyone who says Bird isnt top 5 all times is a moron. He is top 3 in my book, behind only MJ and Kareem.
    For once, I actually agree with you

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    Is there no one else? AchillesHeel's Avatar
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    Larry Bird gets underrated a lot in all time discussions.

    Bird > Magic without question imo, and anyone who says Bird isnt top 5 all times is a moron. He is top 3 in my book, behind only MJ and Kareem.
    It's kinda hard for me to compare Bird and Magic. I mean, Magic's stats are nice and he won 5 rings, then again he had Kareem while Bird also had HOFs like McHale. Honestly I think Magic and Bird are equal in terms of all-time rank, they both dominated the 80s.

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    you are a faggot Phillip's Avatar
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    It's kinda hard for me to compare Bird and Magic. I mean, Magic's stats are nice and he won 5 rings, then again he had Kareem while Bird also had HOFs like McHale. Honestly I think Magic and Bird are equal in terms of all-time rank, they both dominated the 80s.
    If I was building a team, I would build around Bird before building around Magic, every time.

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    What up nigras?

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    Is there no one else? AchillesHeel's Avatar
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    Have you played 1 vs 1 with your draft pick already? Did he let you win?

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    Believe.
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    Dear God, look at all the massive anal hemoraging I have caused.
    lol

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    I swept Jordan twice. And if it weren't for my back and my Pippens dying (Len Bias / Reggie Lewis), I would've kept kicking his ass all through the 90's.

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    Truth nukes

    Jorbum is a fraud, needed the diluted 90s, the referees and MVPippen to be successful

    Pathetic

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    Because I choose to. Neo.'s Avatar
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    I swept Jordan twice. And if it weren't for my back and my Pippens dying (Len Bias / Reggie Lewis), I would've kept kicking his ass all through the 90's.
    one of the best trolls here

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    Jabbar > Bird >> Jordan that about ends argument

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