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    Yeah saw this, wasn't expecting the performance to be this good tbh, if it ends up being priced similar to a 1660ti here it might be a good deal actually. Other parts came in yesterday, aleady got everything running smoothly just need the gpu now
    , I just noticed from Gamers Nexus' review of the 5600 XT that not all 5600 XT will be getting this updated BIOS. ing shady bull from AMD pushing this new BIOS for 5600 XT to the higher end cards they had reviewed but not to all 5600 XT. So if you buy 5600 XT make sure it's a model that can run the new BIOS, because it ups performance more than 10% to compete with the RTX 2060. Speaking of Gamers Nexus, they're probably the most in depth channel on youtube for PC hardware reviews. Only channel that comes close is Digital Foundry, though Digital Foundry does a lot with consoles too, while GamersNexus is almost strictly PC.

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    , I just noticed from Gamers Nexus' review of the 5600 XT that not all 5600 XT will be getting this updated BIOS. ing shady bull from AMD pushing this new BIOS for 5600 XT to the higher end cards they had reviewed but not to all 5600 XT. So if you buy 5600 XT make sure it's a model that can run the new BIOS, because it ups performance more than 10% to compete with the RTX 2060. Speaking of Gamers Nexus, they're probably the most in depth channel on youtube for PC hardware reviews. Only channel that comes close is Digital Foundry, though Digital Foundry does a lot with consoles too, while GamersNexus is almost strictly PC.
    That sucks, I thought only this first batch would come outdated and from now on all of them would get the new bios. Good to know tbh. And yeah GN is a good channel, I actually found out about the cpu I ended up getting from one of their videos. From what i've seen Hardware Unboxed seems like a good one as well.

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    That sucks, I thought only this first batch would come outdated and from now on all of them would get the new bios. Good to know tbh. And yeah GN is a good channel, I actually found out about the cpu I ended up getting from one of their videos. From what i've seen Hardware Unboxed seems like a good one as well.
    Damn RX 5600 XT definitely seems like a loser when MSI says it comes down to silicon lottery as to whether the VRAM in your card will be able to support the BIOS update AMD pushed out to make their cards look good in reviews. MSI says those cards were built with 12Gbps GDDR6 and it's the luck of the draw whether they can clock to 14Gbps with the BIOS update.

    https://www.techpowerup.com/263228/m...s-memory-speed

    What a s bag launch. Get in here DJR210, you'll get a kick out of this I'm guessing.

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    What a ing sad state of the gpu market today.

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    I head the new driver is supposed to be better. Any improvement in stability?
    Nope, none of the driver updates have improved my situation except for the stuttering issue seems to be gone.

    Still get blank screen at launch, and the card crashes (have to power off PC) if you spend too much time in inventory screens lol. Both issues are full-screen only, never happen in windowed mode...

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    Damn RX 5600 XT definitely seems like a loser when MSI says it comes down to silicon lottery as to whether the VRAM in your card will be able to support the BIOS update AMD pushed out to make their cards look good in reviews. MSI says those cards were built with 12Gbps GDDR6 and it's the luck of the draw whether they can clock to 14Gbps with the BIOS update.

    https://www.techpowerup.com/263228/m...s-memory-speed

    What a s bag launch. Get in here DJR210, you'll get a kick out of this I'm guessing.
    Damn that's ing bull .. Not surprising considering it's AMD. Just when they seem to turn the corner, they continually find a way to defeat themselves. Yeah the GPU market is so bad and consoles have caught up so much I may skip an upgrade and just get a new console next round. As long as they can push all games at high settings/60 FPS I'd consider it

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    Damn RX 5600 XT definitely seems like a loser when MSI says it comes down to silicon lottery as to whether the VRAM in your card will be able to support the BIOS update AMD pushed out to make their cards look good in reviews. MSI says those cards were built with 12Gbps GDDR6 and it's the luck of the draw whether they can clock to 14Gbps with the BIOS update.

    https://www.techpowerup.com/263228/m...s-memory-speed

    What a s bag launch. Get in here DJR210, you'll get a kick out of this I'm guessing.
    , better steer clear of that then

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    , better steer clear of that then
    Well there are some higher end models guaranteed to have 14Gbps RAM. But they're going to be the expensive ones, at which point you might as well just buy the 5700 instead.

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    Damn that's ing bull .. Not surprising considering it's AMD. Just when they seem to turn the corner, they continually find a way to defeat themselves. Yeah the GPU market is so bad and consoles have caught up so much I may skip an upgrade and just get a new console next round. As long as they can push all games at high settings/60 FPS I'd consider it
    Yeah I'm really eager to see the PS5 reveal. If that 5700 XT level gpu leak is true then what the is the point in spending on a gaming PC in 2020? I was expecting maybe GTX 1660 performance just like how PoorStation 4 launched with low end HD 7850 level performance, but if I get a $400 5700 XT or better in a PS5 for $500 it's a no brainer. If this was a console like current gen was at launch I would have long since bought an RX 5700 or RTX 2060 Super despite the ty pricing. But once I saw Mark Cerny announce an 8C/16T Ryzen 2 cpu it started looking like PS5 will be a pretty serious gaming system.

    Now I'll be waiting until February for the PS5 reveal, and at that point might as well wait for early June to see if Ampere has gaming cards and if they're any good for the money. Especially with Cyberpunk and Dying Light 2 not releasing this spring any more. So I'm expecting either to preorder PS5 if the reveal looks good or if not buy an RTX 3070 if it moves the needle and is $500 or less. Or if neither holds probably just buy a bridge gpu like a used RX 580 for playing late 2020 games like Cyberpunk, Dying Light 2, Elden Ring, etc. and hope for good gpus in 2021 or 2022.
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    Oh man AMD just released the Ryzen 5 1600 AF at $85 MSRP, but it's really a Ryzen 5 2600 since it's on 12nm instead of 16nm and overclocks like a 2600 instead of a 1600. That's a pretty ing legit gaming cpu at the kind of pricing you'd expect for crap Pentium cpus.

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    Oh man AMD just released the Ryzen 5 1600 AF at $85 MSRP, but it's really a Ryzen 5 2600 since it's on 12nm instead of 16nm and overclocks like a 2600 instead of a 1600. That's a pretty ing legit gaming cpu at the kind of pricing you'd expect for crap Pentium cpus.
    Yeah it's the one I got, amazing bargain tbh

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    Yeah it's the one I got, amazing bargain tbh
    Yeah I was thinking WTF when you said you were getting a 1600 since those really can't get to even 4.0 GHz. Didn't know the new 1600AF was really a 2600 that they marketed as a 1600. Guess they didn't want to cannibalize sales of the 3600.

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    Yeah it's the one I got, amazing bargain tbh
    Wow AMD actually made some of the 1600 AF 8C/16T cpus.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/co...es_16_threads/

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    Wow AMD actually made some of the 1600 AF 8C/16T cpus.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/co...es_16_threads/


    sadly didn't get that lucky but thats amazing tbh

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    Wow in this video Hardware Unboxed says retailers have been telling them the RX 5700 XT gets returned at 5x the rate of other competing gpus. What a cluster Navi has been. Same story as ever from AMD gpus, great hardware, dog drivers. , this goes back to even before AMD owned Radeon. Last time I bought a Radeon was an ATi Radeon 8500 in 2001 because it was a ing beast for its day on hardware but the drivers kept that card stuck behind the Nvidia GeForce 3 Ti500 even though it should have dominated it with proper drivers.

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