NBA: Top 20 Players Ever List on NBA.com

[Deuce Bigalow]

SImple google search of top 10 alltime...

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/lists/T...in-NBA-history

1. MJ
2. Magic
3. Russell
4. Kareem
5. Bird
6. Wilt
7. Oscar
8. Kobe
9. Shaq
10. Duncan

http://www.hoopsmanifesto.com/articl...-all-time.html

1. MJ
2. Magic
3. Russell
4. Kareem
5. Bird
6. Wilt
7. Shaq
8. Kobe
9. Duncan
10. Oscar

Denial, it aint just a river in Egypt

[HarlemHeat37]

Why are people posting lists from other fans, tbh?..

Any list that doesn't include comprehensive advanced stats is antiquated, tbh..

[ambchang]

Lol. Fox News.

[Brazil]

SImple google search of top 10 alltime...

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/lists/T...in-NBA-history



http://www.hoopsmanifesto.com/articl...-all-time.html



Denial, it aint just a river in Egypt

Deuce Bigalow

yeah no... kobe is not in my top 10 either

[DAF86]

SImple google search of top 10 alltime...

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/lists/T...in-NBA-history



http://www.hoopsmanifesto.com/articl...-all-time.html



Denial, it aint just a river in Egypt

I know those lists suck 'cause they have Kobe ahead of Duncan and Shaq. I saw those three play and I know that Kobe is the lesser player of the bunch.

[Deuce Bigalow]

I know those lists suck 'cause they have Kobe ahead of Duncan and Shaq. I saw those three play and I know that Kobe is the lesser player of the bunch.

Oh really?

Robert Horry, who played with all of them, said Kobe was the greater player.

Dirk Nowtzki, who's been in the league for 15 seasons, called Kobe the greatest player in the last 15 years.

Dwyane Wade also called Kobe the greatest player of this era.

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Wait, Duncan has 4 rings?

[HarlemHeat37]

Oh really?

Robert Horry, who played with all of them, said Kobe was the greater player.

Dirk Nowtzki, who's been in the league for 15 seasons, called Kobe the greatest player in the last 15 years.

Dwyane Wade also called Kobe the greatest player of this era.

Robert Horry said this while vying for a job with the Lakers..

Dirk said Kobe is the number 1 player in terms of scoring and style, which I agree with..

Lebron has said Duncan is the best player of his generation, too..

It doesn't really matter, though, NBA opinions are mostly meaningless, now that we have access to all the tools the scouts/coaches have and we realize how wrong 99% of their analysis is..such as Magic Johnson(a top 5 player of all-time) and Jalen Rose admitting Bill Simmons(a fan that never played sports) was correct about Rudy Gay and they were completely wrong..

The only people that still use NBA opinions for their arguments are old people and members of Al-Quobe, tbh..listening to a former player analyze the NBA is very difficult, most of them are very fortunate to be winners of the genetic lottery..

I have Kobe in the top 10, btw, just saying..it's difficult for me to put a player in the top 10 when he has never won MVP and Finals MVP in the same season, but still, I respect Kobe that much..

[ShowtimeFan]

1-Jordan
2-Wilt
3-Magic
4-Bird
5-Kareem
6-Russell
7-Lebron
8-Shaq
9-Duncan
10-Hakeem

There you have ten players better than Kobe off the top of my head. If I do some research I'm sure numbers will suggest that guys like Moses Malone and Oscar Robertson should be ahead of him too.

I'd take Kobe's longevity over Shaq and Hakeem, Kobe and Duncan are pretty much even, and I can't yet rate Lebron's career over Kobe's (it's coming though), but I agree that top 5 is ridiculous for Kobe.

[ShowtimeFan]

Any list that doesn't include comprehensive advanced stats is antiquated, tbh..

This statement probably sounds funnier to me after a long work week than it normally would, but I can't help picturing HarlemHeat as Steve Urkel with suspenders and all.

[monosylab1k]

Duncan too low, Kobe too high, Shaq ahead of Jordan .

[HarlemHeat37]

IMO:

Peak(which is the more important list, tbh)

1. Dad Killer 91-93
2. Shaquille O'Neal 2000-2002
3. Wilt Chamberlain 1967
4. Lebron James 2012-present
5. Hakeem Olajuwon 1994-1995
6. Kareem Abdul Jabbar 1970s
7. Tim Duncan 2002-2003
8. Larry Bird 1986
9. Magic Johnson 1987
10. Bill Russell 1965(the only impressive Russell season IMO)

Career
1. Dad Killer
2. Abdul-Jabbar
3. Aidsic Johnson

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Peak(which is the more important list, tbh)

Agreed I always hated the longevity .

Let's say you have two people, the first guy's name is Harlem the second guy's name is Bob.

Harlem goes into med school with a 4.0, graduates in the top 5% and goes on to become a doctor making $289,000 a year. But then....he dies a year later.

Bob works at McDonald's for 40 years and amasses $500,000 during his lifetime, which is more than Harlem makes in his lifetime and racks up a lot of Employee of the Month awards.

Who's the smarter/better employee?

that's why it doesn't make sense to use the longevity argument. In 20 years when me and my son are circlejerking and talking to each other around the campfire, if he asks me who the best player I ever saw play was, I'm gonna tell him it's who was better at his peak.

in my humble opinion

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so in conclusion I agree with the author that Shaq is a top 3 player of all time by my analysis. However, he's definitely not better than Jordan and the re ed idea that Jordan was hyped up due to the '90s' or whatever is ridiculous.

Who else could win three les in a row, retire for two years then come back and win three more les in a row?

[m>s]

Agreed I always hated the longevity .

Let's say you have two people, the first guy's name is Harlem the second guy's name is Bob.

Harlem goes into med school with a 4.0, graduates in the top 5% and goes on to become a doctor making $289,000 a year. But then....he dies a year later.

Bob works at McDonald's for 40 years and amasses $500,000 during his lifetime, which is more than Harlem makes in his lifetime and racks up a lot of Employee of the Month awards.

Who's the smarter/better employee?

that's why it doesn't make sense to use the longevity argument. In 20 years when me and my son are circlejerking and talking to each other around the campfire, if he asks me who the best player I ever saw play was, I'm gonna tell him it's who was better at his peak.

in my humble opinion

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[gnsf0946]

I usually went with longevity over peak but when you think about it Duncan hasn't been putting all time great stats for several years now but "those don't count cause he's old, however him putting mediocre stats makes him a better player overall" makes no sense. Only thing about longevity is to see who's game was based on fundamentals and who's on pure athleticism which doesn't mean a lot when talking top 10 lists