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  1. #26
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    T.Y. Hilton would probably be the best receiver on the Panthers...

    if i'm down 7 in a 4th quarter though, I'm taking Luck no questions

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    Can someone post stats post Wayne injury for luck? Not trying to troll or talk , just curious

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    Mr Robinsons hood denizen Creepn's Avatar
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    Steve Smith to throw the ball to.
    This is dumb. Receivers are dependent on the quarterback. That's why they are called "receivers". If the quarterback sucks, the receivers will get hurt.

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    Statistically, Carolina has the 5th worst offense in the NFC, tbh..

    Newton has embraced his role as glorified game manager, I give him credit for that..

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    Can someone post stats post Wayne injury for luck? Not trying to troll or talk , just curious
    Does it make you envious that Scam has replaced Bob in black qb media infatuation rankings tbh?

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    This is dumb. Receivers are dependent on the quarterback. That's why they are called "receivers". If the quarterback sucks, the receivers will get hurt.
    you know who else is a receiver of that juice? no lyfe got

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    Does it make you envious that Scam has replaced Bob in black qb media infatuation rankings tbh?
    sup got

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    Statistically, Carolina has the 5th worst offense in the NFC, tbh..

    Newton has embraced his role as glorified game manager, I give him credit for that..
    You play to your team's strengths and for the Panthers, its defense. Cam has already shown he can run, pass and put up points. Overall, Luck has more options on offense and his numbers are less impressive. They're both game managers and its better to have one of those than a guy who just flings the ball around the field. Peyton's also a game manager so I'm not sure what your point even is.

  10. #35
    apparently you don't understand the definition of a game manager, smh..

    And calling somebody a game manager isn't an insult, btw..

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    Andrew Luck: 18-9 (.667 winning percentage)
    Newton: 21-22 (.488 winning percentage)

    Advantage Luck


    Playoff Appearances

    Andrew Luck: 1 (with 2 less seasons than )
    Newton: 0

    Advantage Luck


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    Andrew Luck: White
    Newton: Black

    Advantage Luck


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    Andrew Luck: Stanford, Architectural Degree
    Newton: Auburn, did not finish college, no degree

    Advantage Luck


    Division Leader so far in 2013

    Andrew Luck: Yes

    Newton: No

    Advantage Luck

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    Not choosing to get in on this debate--Luck has ed me over in FF way too many times of late...

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    Not choosing to get in on this debate--Luck has ed me over in FF way too many times of late...
    You end up starting griffin or luck this week brah?

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    You end up starting griffin or luck this week brah?
    I was in Vegas and I had Luck starting but had 2nd thoughts around 5am Sunday morning but passed out and didn't wake up until 10:30. I should've stuck with RG3...may mistake will cost me a playoff spot

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    Andrew Luck: 18-9 (.667 winning percentage)
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    Andrew Luck: 1 (with 2 less seasons than )
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    Advantage Luck


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    Advantage Luck


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    Andrew Luck: Yes

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    Right Koolaid Man 37...... Cam came to Carolina during a rebuilding phase. They were basically starting over. Luck came to a team that was playoff ready with a ton more talent on both sides of the ball. Indy tanked to get the #1 draft pick just like the Spurs tanked to get a high lottery pick in 1997. Luck actually has more talent surrounding him than Peyton did when he was QB for the colts.

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    Right Koolaid Man 37...... Cam came to Carolina during a rebuilding phase. They were basically starting over. Luck came to a team that was playoff ready with a ton more talent on both sides of the ball. Indy tanked to get the #1 draft pick just like the Spurs tanked to get a high lottery pick in 1997. Luck actually has more talent surrounding him than Peyton did when he was QB for the colts.
    yep

  17. #42
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    Luck is overrated, but he'll have a better career than Newton.

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    but he'll have a better career than Newton.


    based off what?

    newton is the lebron james of football. once we get our second, third ring, we'll check back up on this

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    based off what?

    newton is the lebron james of football. once we get our second, third ring, we'll check back up on this
    What? Lebron puts up monster stats while being efficient as , also the best player in the game. is 18th in passing YDS, 20th in YDS/A, 10th in TDs, 18th in Comp%, 25th in YDS/G

    There's no statistical evidence of Newton being anywhere near the equivalent of Lebron in Football, he's just an above-average QB, who can run the ball. He's what people thought RGIII would be after his knee surgery. is nothing but a game manager.

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    based off what?

    newton is the lebron james of football. once we get our second, third ring, we'll check back up on this
    do you actually believe the that comes out of your mouth?

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    do you actually believe the that comes out of your mouth?
    I don't mean it in the sense of him being the best out... yet.

    But he is without a doubt the best athlete in the league. It will take time for him to reach his true peak, but I think we were right on the mark with who we drafted.

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    But he is without a doubt the best athlete in the league.
    he's not even a better athlete you're comparing him to in the thread le

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    he's not even a better athlete you're comparing him to in the thread le

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    Cool picture, almost as cool as your ability to post something obviously re ed and hope no one realizes how re ed it actually is.

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    Cool picture, almost as cool as your ability to post something obviously re ed and hope no one realizes how re ed it actually is.


    the only thing re ed is your take on how andrew luck is a better athlete then cam.

    cam was better in college, better his rookie year, and is better now.

    the only thing luck has on him is:
    1) a playoff berth (with a significantly better team then Cam had)
    2) he broke cam's rookie passing record

    that's IT. and cam is more than likely going to make the playoffs this upcoming year, so much for that...

    cam is having a far better season tbh, and luck is getting exposed for what he is... no prime-time target = no success for luck.

    sure, if you took away steve smith cam wouldn't be as productive. BUT, cam has also thrown to four different receivers for 400 yards at least. the only other QB to do that this year is peyton.

    cam has a well-balanced, but really mediocre receiver group, and he is making them look good.

    just stop sucking everyone else's on this board and form your own opinion. to state luck is the better QB is one thing. to say stupid like him being a better athlete is another.

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